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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Fri Sep 1, 2017, 08:19 AM Sep 2017

McCain Hits 'Poorly Informed,' 'Impulsive' Trump in New Op-Ed: We Are Not Your Subordinates

Source: Mediaite

by Ken Meyer | 8:14 am, September 1st, 2017

As John McCain prepares to return to the Senate next week, he penned an op-ed where he took multiple swings at President Trump.

The Arizona Senator wrote a piece for Washington Post where he laid out his thoughts about the country’s efforts to move forward from the racial nastiness in Charlottesville last month. McCain also expressed his concerns that hyper-partisan gridlock is thwarting Congress by creating a political atmosphere where compromise and cooperative problem-solving are impossible. As it were, McCain seemed to suggest a lot of the discord has to do with Trump:

That has never been truer than today, when Congress must govern with a president who has no experience of public office, is often poorly informed and can be impulsive in his speech and conduct.

We must respect his authority and constitutional responsibilities. We must, where we can, cooperate with him. But we are not his subordinates. We don’t answer to him. We answer to the American people. We must be diligent in discharging our responsibility to serve as a check on his power. And we should value our identity as members of Congress more than our partisan affiliation.




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McCain Hits 'Poorly Informed,' 'Impulsive' Trump in New Op-Ed: We Are Not Your Subordinates (Original Post) DonViejo Sep 2017 OP
I'd like to see the Senate and House work on... WePurrsevere Sep 2017 #1
Yeah. ananda Sep 2017 #9
I'm guessing that will happen around the same time as... WePurrsevere Sep 2017 #10
Being ill seems to be bringing out the best, brave McCain adigal Sep 2017 #2
He is never going to face another primary and he doesn't have to raise any money. grantcart Sep 2017 #8
So true! DeeDeeNY Sep 2017 #12
A figurehead has to stand out front and get shot at first. nt Hekate Sep 2017 #33
Watch how McCain gets worked up if Trumpy destroys DACA. Eyeball_Kid Sep 2017 #20
"... we should value our identity as members of Congress more than our partisan affiliation." Jim Dandy Sep 2017 #3
John, you are a little late don't ya think? Dustlawyer Sep 2017 #44
"Repulsive" Trump TheCowsCameHome Sep 2017 #4
DATELINE: John McCain Discovers Social Contract, 500 Years After Hobbes and Rousseau bucolic_frolic Sep 2017 #5
... he said while re-inking his rubber stamp. PSPS Sep 2017 #6
That made me laugh JDC Sep 2017 #14
Nice try but Trump is not the source of Republican corruption and obstructionism. Julian Englis Sep 2017 #7
+1000 Alpeduez21 Sep 2017 #13
Agree. Well said. Duppers Sep 2017 #19
+1000 Maven Sep 2017 #34
2 things come to mind - what would this Op Ed be if a Democrat was president and doing this? NRaleighLiberal Sep 2017 #11
+1 dalton99a Sep 2017 #16
Prove it by pushing back on his agenda. (nt) klook Sep 2017 #15
If there's one Repub Senator I'm sure didn't take Russian donations, it's McCain. Honeycombe8 Sep 2017 #17
He held onto & invested his share of the Keating5 graft from the mid late 80s tho, maybe. irisblue Sep 2017 #21
You forgot to cite identifying the evidence that McCain knew about McConnell. Honeycombe8 Sep 2017 #23
article from Dallas Morning News dated 8/3/2017. irisblue Sep 2017 #41
Who'd you vote for, Senator? Eyeball_Kid Sep 2017 #18
Here you go: Honeycombe8 Sep 2017 #25
It's important that we never become as cynical as our opponents. Thank you for correcting ... Hekate Sep 2017 #32
McCain also expressed his concerns that hyper-partisan gridlock is thwarting Congress... DK504 Sep 2017 #22
He might have done much I hate but I'll take this and gladly. nolabear Sep 2017 #24
"We answer to the American people." pangaia Sep 2017 #26
piss on john mccain anyway KG Sep 2017 #27
The guy who gave us Sarah Palin found his soul?? Bleacher Creature Sep 2017 #28
A line from a Bill Cosby comedy routine fits DonCoquixote Sep 2017 #29
Bwahahaha.... Blue Owl Sep 2017 #30
Never too late for redemption, Senator Hekate Sep 2017 #31
I'll believe it when I see it. Neema Sep 2017 #36
EXACTLY. There's nothing new here. SusanaMontana41 Sep 2017 #43
Maybe he should start acting like he answers to the American people. The GOP hasn't behaved as Neema Sep 2017 #35
more phoney baloney from mccain who spent 8 yrs obstructing obama at every turn nt msongs Sep 2017 #37
Ah, Johnny, if only zentrum Sep 2017 #38
I am starting to really like John McCain. And I always remember how he answered Maraya1969 Sep 2017 #39
Number of days in each month when Trump's Gallup approval was above 40%: L. Coyote Sep 2017 #40
and yet, "Mav," you're still dancing to his music. SusanaMontana41 Sep 2017 #42

WePurrsevere

(24,259 posts)
1. I'd like to see the Senate and House work on...
Fri Sep 1, 2017, 08:23 AM
Sep 2017

one of their constitutional duties and impeach/remove this flaming gold leafed pile of poo.

ananda

(28,835 posts)
9. Yeah.
Fri Sep 1, 2017, 08:47 AM
Sep 2017

Where's the talk of impeachment, and unobstructed
Senate invesigation that is open to the public?

WePurrsevere

(24,259 posts)
10. I'm guessing that will happen around the same time as...
Fri Sep 1, 2017, 09:06 AM
Sep 2017

pigs sprout wings and fly or the GOP decided to actually ACT like the 'Christian' followers of Jesus they espouse to be... but aren't.

I hope I'm wrong. I desperately want, and even need, to be but for McCain and other Republicans to finally move to impeach Trump would take the miracle of a huge 'come to Jesus' event that changes the hearts and minds the base they fear and their Corp owners.

 

adigal

(7,581 posts)
2. Being ill seems to be bringing out the best, brave McCain
Fri Sep 1, 2017, 08:26 AM
Sep 2017

I am glad he reminded Congress they are a check on a runaway executive.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
8. He is never going to face another primary and he doesn't have to raise any money.
Fri Sep 1, 2017, 08:41 AM
Sep 2017

He didn't write this on his own, he is the figurehead for a disgruntled group of Republicans.
 

Jim Dandy

(358 posts)
3. "... we should value our identity as members of Congress more than our partisan affiliation."
Fri Sep 1, 2017, 08:27 AM
Sep 2017

Then quit the GOP. Go independent. You want to be a fucking maverick, then do something that actually counts.

Dustlawyer

(10,494 posts)
44. John, you are a little late don't ya think?
Sat Sep 2, 2017, 08:16 AM
Sep 2017

We knew this shite years ago! Most Americans figured it out a couple of months into his Presidency. You have only now decided to step up when you have nothing left to lose? So brave!

bucolic_frolic

(43,058 posts)
5. DATELINE: John McCain Discovers Social Contract, 500 Years After Hobbes and Rousseau
Fri Sep 1, 2017, 08:32 AM
Sep 2017

It's a miracle, I tell you, a miracle!

Julian Englis

(2,309 posts)
7. Nice try but Trump is not the source of Republican corruption and obstructionism.
Fri Sep 1, 2017, 08:37 AM
Sep 2017

While Trump is the most obvious example of Republican corruption and hypocrisy, McCain and other "mainstream" Republicans have been pushing this sort of crap for decades. From Nixon's Southern Strategy, to the numerous Reagan era indictments, to the fake weapons of mass destruction, to the multiple votes to repeal the ACA, McCain and mainstream Repubs were complicit. The Republican party is the party of racism, greed, and hate.

NRaleighLiberal

(60,006 posts)
11. 2 things come to mind - what would this Op Ed be if a Democrat was president and doing this?
Fri Sep 1, 2017, 09:09 AM
Sep 2017

And -

"We must respect his authority" - why? If someone is doing harm, shouldn't one do everything to resist and work to remove him from power? Respect is earned. Trump has earned nothing. And as far as respecting someone doing horrible things who have authority - if a teacher is abusing children in a school do we have to respect the teacher's authority?

Flawed thinking from a reed that blows in the wind that bends toward his own self interest and the interest of his party only, with very, very rare and unusual, and few, exceptions.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
17. If there's one Repub Senator I'm sure didn't take Russian donations, it's McCain.
Fri Sep 1, 2017, 10:05 AM
Sep 2017

Never in a million years.

irisblue

(32,931 posts)
21. He held onto & invested his share of the Keating5 graft from the mid late 80s tho, maybe.
Fri Sep 1, 2017, 10:39 AM
Sep 2017

but no, I don't think he'd take Russian graft. He just looked away when McConnell did.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
23. You forgot to cite identifying the evidence that McCain knew about McConnell.
Fri Sep 1, 2017, 10:49 AM
Sep 2017

I'm sure that was an oversight.

Also post the evidence that McConnell took Russian donations. I wouldn't put it past him, but I missed the story that sets forth that evidence.

irisblue

(32,931 posts)
41. article from Dallas Morning News dated 8/3/2017.
Sat Sep 2, 2017, 02:57 AM
Sep 2017

there are more citations when I googled the phrase "Did McConnell take Russian money?"

and, yes it was an oversight. 😉

Eyeball_Kid

(7,429 posts)
18. Who'd you vote for, Senator?
Fri Sep 1, 2017, 10:27 AM
Sep 2017

Who did you support in the '16 campaign, Senator?

Which candidate did you recommend that your constituents vote for last November, Senator?

You can't really walk back your commitment to Trumpy. You dove in head-first. You can't claim ignorance. You knew and you know who he is.

You get no applause from me.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
25. Here you go:
Fri Sep 1, 2017, 10:59 AM
Sep 2017
John McCain: NAY (was YEA)
The Arizona senator and 2008 GOP presidential nominee, who is in a tight reelection battle, has announced he no longer supports Trump. “I thought it important I respect the fact that Donald Trump won a majority of the delegates by the rules our party set,” he said in a statement. “But Donald Trump’s behavior this week, concluding with the disclosure of his demeaning comments about women and his boasts about sexual assaults, make it impossible to continue to offer even conditional support for his candidacy.” (October 8, 2016)


https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/11/where-republicans-stand-on-donald-trump-a-cheat-sheet/481449/
11/6/2016

Hekate

(90,560 posts)
32. It's important that we never become as cynical as our opponents. Thank you for correcting ...
Fri Sep 1, 2017, 01:13 PM
Sep 2017

...the untruth.

DK504

(3,847 posts)
22. McCain also expressed his concerns that hyper-partisan gridlock is thwarting Congress...
Fri Sep 1, 2017, 10:42 AM
Sep 2017

... by creating a political atmosphere where compromise and cooperative problem-solving are impossible."

Where the hell was he 8 years ago when his boss McTurtle came out on the night of President Obama's inauguration to block every thing he proposed? Where the hell was he when McYertle blocked one of the biggest rights of the president by blocking his SCOTUS nomination? Where were you McCain when the Congress didn't do one damn thing to stop Wall St. from the banks stealing homes?

Where were you? If you really want to do something .... do the RIGHT thing and block your pals that are screwing us over.

nolabear

(41,936 posts)
24. He might have done much I hate but I'll take this and gladly.
Fri Sep 1, 2017, 10:59 AM
Sep 2017

I'm so done with "yeah but he's / she's not been good enough in the past so I'll insult him and. Turn my pristine nose up at the help being offered now."

In the words of an old guy I didn't like much either, "Trustbut verify." We don't have to be fools but if his criticism swivels some more conventionally conservative heads to join in I'm

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
26. "We answer to the American people."
Fri Sep 1, 2017, 11:00 AM
Sep 2017

Yeah, right, Johnny. Tell us how it is..


"We must respect his authority and constitutional responsibilities." SURE



"We must, where we can, cooperate with him." BULLSHIT

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
29. A line from a Bill Cosby comedy routine fits
Fri Sep 1, 2017, 12:20 PM
Sep 2017

When Cosby noticed that his kids loved their grandma, he told them "That isnot the person I grew up with, that is an old person trying to get into heaven now!"

And yeah Cosby is tainted too, but he, like many GOP, was able to spout of a bunch of sweet platitudes that in the long run, turned out to be worthless.

Yes i am grateful he help kill the Trumpcare bill, but should I thank someone for NOT committing murder?

Neema

(1,151 posts)
36. I'll believe it when I see it.
Fri Sep 1, 2017, 03:25 PM
Sep 2017

Sorry, but I'm bone tired of hearing about what a maverick McCain is, when all he does is have a little tantrum now and then without much in the way of action.

Neema

(1,151 posts)
35. Maybe he should start acting like he answers to the American people. The GOP hasn't behaved as
Fri Sep 1, 2017, 03:23 PM
Sep 2017

if they have any inkling of that in decades.

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
38. Ah, Johnny, if only
Fri Sep 1, 2017, 09:15 PM
Sep 2017

...you had been this independent for your entire career instead of during your last term when you have no funder to appease.

(I'm assuming he will not run again because of health concerns.)

Maraya1969

(22,462 posts)
39. I am starting to really like John McCain. And I always remember how he answered
Fri Sep 1, 2017, 11:09 PM
Sep 2017

that woman in a rally when he was running against Obama for president. When she said she thought he was a Muslim McCain said, "No Mam, " (I forget the rest) I also remember how Romney, 4 years later let those falsehoods lie and never corrected anyone.

SusanaMontana41

(3,233 posts)
42. and yet, "Mav," you're still dancing to his music.
Sat Sep 2, 2017, 06:28 AM
Sep 2017

You didn't say one thing PATRIOTS haven't been saying for months.

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