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Bosonic

(3,746 posts)
Sun Aug 5, 2012, 03:11 PM Aug 2012

Egyptian police killed in attack in Sinai

Source: Al Jazeera

At least 15 Egyptian policemen have been killed or wounded in an armed attack on a police station in north Sinai on the border between Egypt and Israel, the Reuters news agency reported.

It was not immediately clear who carried out Sunday's attack.

Al Jazeera's Rawya Ragey, reporting from Cairo, said border police patrol were breaking their fast when they were ambushed by armed men.

Read more: http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middleeast/2012/08/201285183958163902.html

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Egyptian police killed in attack in Sinai (Original Post) Bosonic Aug 2012 OP
What would be the motive? Did the militants get caught trying to smuggle weapons crimson77 Aug 2012 #1
Israel says terror groups are planning to abduct Israelis from the Sinai peninsula oberliner Aug 2012 #2
Fuck me crimson77 Aug 2012 #3
I think that's already happening -in Syria n/t azurnoir Aug 2012 #4
What a disgustingly insulting comment oberliner Aug 2012 #5
I am all for freedom, we have absolutley no idea who these rebels are. crimson77 Aug 2012 #14
You raise an interesting point oberliner Aug 2012 #16
Mubarak was a corupt despot, but he could be dealt with.Someone still needs to tell me how Qaddafi.. crimson77 Aug 2012 #17
How about Saddam Hussein? oberliner Aug 2012 #19
From what I have read crimson77 Aug 2012 #21
hasn't Israel's counter terrorism agency been issuing similar warnings for years? azurnoir Aug 2012 #6
Yes, these warnings are made from time to time oberliner Aug 2012 #7
yes 8 years ago that did happen however Israeli's are still going to Sinai for vacations azurnoir Aug 2012 #8
10 hours ago actually oberliner Aug 2012 #9
yes I know I have read the OP but that does not address my comment azurnoir Aug 2012 #10
The OP doesn't say that oberliner Aug 2012 #11
Maybe because families want to get away from the Tel Aviv and Jerusalem JDPriestly Aug 2012 #12
well yes that was my point but is a cheap vacation azurnoir Aug 2012 #13
Anywhere an Israeli goes is dangerous oberliner Aug 2012 #15
ah so I would take it that Miami is dangerous? azurnoir Aug 2012 #23
I have a FB friend in Sweden who has friends in Egypt, he says Israel is carrying out secondwind Aug 2012 #18
Israeli air strike kills Palestinian militant riding motorcycle in south Gaza Strip bemildred Aug 2012 #20
Sinai attack proves Islamist terrorists are targeting Egyptians as well as Israelis Fozzledick Aug 2012 #22
Egypt Israel border attack leaves 'eight gunmen dead' Eugene Aug 2012 #24
 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
2. Israel says terror groups are planning to abduct Israelis from the Sinai peninsula
Sun Aug 5, 2012, 04:08 PM
Aug 2012

(from two days ago)

Israeli tourists in Sinai should return to Israel immediately because terrorists are planning to abduct Israelis from the peninsula, the government's Counter-Terrorism Bureau warned on Thursday.

The agency said it issued the warning because it has received new intelligence indicating that Gaza-based Palestinian terror groups and organizations linked to Al-Qaida in Sinai are planning imminent attacks on Israeli tourists there. The terrorists' primary goal is to kidnap Israelis, the agency added.

http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/israel-says-terror-groups-are-planning-to-abduct-israelis-from-the-sinai-peninsula-1.455635

Perhaps connected?

 

crimson77

(305 posts)
3. Fuck me
Sun Aug 5, 2012, 04:17 PM
Aug 2012

Can we not have one election cycle where something fucked up doesn't happen in Sept/Oct. I know this shouldn't be spoken outloud, Obama needs so throw around some good old fashion hired killer money and keep these islamists busy for the next few months. I am sure there are many mercenaries that could use the money, tough economy and all.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
5. What a disgustingly insulting comment
Sun Aug 5, 2012, 04:30 PM
Aug 2012

The people of Syria are rising up and revolting against a dictatorship and demanding freedom.

But to you it's mercenaries and hired killers on the US payroll. Islamists kept busy.

Despicable remarks.

 

crimson77

(305 posts)
14. I am all for freedom, we have absolutley no idea who these rebels are.
Sun Aug 5, 2012, 06:36 PM
Aug 2012

If keeping Assad in power, means that chemical weapons stay out of the hand of people who would drop that shit in Times Sq or the Tube in London. I am sorry that is a crisis of conscience that I just don't have. If they didn't have chemical weapons I'd say kill Assad right now, but we don't live in that world.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
16. You raise an interesting point
Sun Aug 5, 2012, 06:42 PM
Aug 2012

What about Mubarak in Egypt and Qaddafi in Libya? Same sort crisis in those cases?

 

crimson77

(305 posts)
17. Mubarak was a corupt despot, but he could be dealt with.Someone still needs to tell me how Qaddafi..
Sun Aug 5, 2012, 06:47 PM
Aug 2012

lived as long as he did, with the shit he pulled, probably oil. Both had one thing in common, no chemical weapons.

 

crimson77

(305 posts)
21. From what I have read
Sun Aug 5, 2012, 08:36 PM
Aug 2012

Saddam until the end thought he would get his power back, how? I have no idea. So the pundits speculated that he didn't use them for that reason.

Also I hear his weapons were mostly chemical weapons that would effect the general populace not military,aka mustard gas.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
6. hasn't Israel's counter terrorism agency been issuing similar warnings for years?
Sun Aug 5, 2012, 04:34 PM
Aug 2012

from your link

While it has issued similar warnings several times in the past, many Israelis ignore them, pressing forward with plans to enjoy a relatively cheap beach vacation.

"The Counter-Terrorism Bureau once again urges all Israelis in Sinai to leave the region immediately and return to Israel," the Prime Minister's Office said in a statement on Thursday.

"The Counterterrorism Bureau asks the families of Israelis in Sinai to make contact with them and inform them of this warning. In addition, the bureau strongly recommends that all those planning to go to Sinai refrain from doing so."

The agency has had a travel advisory in place for Sinai for several years now, but the security situation there deteriorated drastically after last year's Egyptian revolution. Over the past year, two serious cross-border terror attacks have been launched at Israel from Sinai, both by terrorist groups affiliated with Al-Qaida.


the boy who cried wolf syndrome at work here perhaps?
 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
7. Yes, these warnings are made from time to time
Sun Aug 5, 2012, 04:37 PM
Aug 2012

So are attacks on Israelis vacationing in Sinai.

From your favorite website:

The 2004 Sinai bombings were three bomb attacks targeting tourist hotels in the Sinai Peninsula, Egypt, on October 7, 2004. The attacks killed 34 people and injured 171.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_Sinai_bombings

It's not crying wolf when a wolf actually attacks you.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
8. yes 8 years ago that did happen however Israeli's are still going to Sinai for vacations
Sun Aug 5, 2012, 04:41 PM
Aug 2012

why, if it is indeed so dangerous?

BTW your link did not say from time to time it said

The agency has had a travel advisory in place for Sinai for several years now, but the security situation there deteriorated drastically after last year's Egyptian revolution. Over the past year, two serious cross-border terror attacks have been launched at Israel from Sinai, both by terrorist groups affiliated with Al-Qaida.


 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
9. 10 hours ago actually
Sun Aug 5, 2012, 05:13 PM
Aug 2012

From your other favorite website:

Masked attackers carrying machine guns fired a rocket-propelled grenade at the post near Israel's Kerem Shalom crossing, killing at least 15 Egyptian officers, wounding seven and kidnapping others, Egyptian security officials told Ma'an.

The attackers then seized two military vehicles and attempted to storm Egypt's border with Israel.

http://www.maannews.net/eng/ViewDetails.aspx?ID=510234

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
10. yes I know I have read the OP but that does not address my comment
Sun Aug 5, 2012, 05:25 PM
Aug 2012

apparently there are still Israeli's going to Sinai

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
11. The OP doesn't say that
Sun Aug 5, 2012, 06:13 PM
Aug 2012

The OP has no info about who carried out the attack and why.

New information has surfaced that you might want to check out.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
12. Maybe because families want to get away from the Tel Aviv and Jerusalem
Sun Aug 5, 2012, 06:20 PM
Aug 2012

heat and cool off at the beach but can't afford to go more expensive places?

Maybe because Egypt likes to get the money the tourists bring and opens the beaches to everyone?

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
13. well yes that was my point but is a cheap vacation
Sun Aug 5, 2012, 06:26 PM
Aug 2012

really worth risking ones life over, if indeed Sinai is so dangerous?

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
15. Anywhere an Israeli goes is dangerous
Sun Aug 5, 2012, 06:38 PM
Aug 2012

Wherever Israelis travel, they are in danger of being attacked merely because they are Israelis.

Did you miss what happened in Bulgaria?

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
23. ah so I would take it that Miami is dangerous?
Sun Aug 5, 2012, 11:33 PM
Aug 2012

or NYC or Paris or Tokyo or Beijing or Warsaw or ..............

secondwind

(16,903 posts)
18. I have a FB friend in Sweden who has friends in Egypt, he says Israel is carrying out
Sun Aug 5, 2012, 07:08 PM
Aug 2012

attacks on the city of Rafah.

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
20. Israeli air strike kills Palestinian militant riding motorcycle in south Gaza Strip
Sun Aug 5, 2012, 07:44 PM
Aug 2012

An Israel Air Force craft targeted a motorcycle travelling in the Gaza city of Rafah on Sunday, killing one militant and wounding another.

According to initial reports, the attack was a surgical strike against a member of the Popular Resistance Committees militant organization.

An IDF statement released after the attack said that the assault was a joint operation by the army and the Shin Bet, adding that militant squad targeted belonged to a global Jihad organization.

According to the statement, the two men targeted in the strike were 19-year-old Eyad Nadi Okel, who was killed in the attack, and 22-year-old Ahmed Sayid Ismayil, who Palestinian sources said was wounded in the attack, while the IDF claimed was killed as well.

The IDF said that Ismayil belonged to the Salafi wing of the Popular Resistance Committees, which is linked to the global Jihad movement operating in the Strip and in the Sinai, adding that he was involved in the June attack on the border with Israel that killed an Israeli citizen.

http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/israeli-air-strike-kills-palestinian-militant-riding-motorcycle-in-south-gaza-strip-1.456110

Fozzledick

(3,860 posts)
22. Sinai attack proves Islamist terrorists are targeting Egyptians as well as Israelis
Sun Aug 5, 2012, 09:06 PM
Aug 2012
Sunday night's attack of the Egyptian military post and cross-border incursion was the largest attack carried out in Sinai by Global Jihad operatives against both an Egyptian target and an Israeli target.
...
In recent months there have been almost daily incidents between the Egyptian army and armed members of Jihadist groups, and there have been repeated reports of Egyptian soldiers shot by these extremists, who belong to cells identified with Al-Qaida coming from all over the Middle East.

The two terrorists responsible for the attack that killed Fashafshe came from Saudi Arabia and Egypt. There are reportedly Al-Qaida forces in Sinai from Yemen, Iraq, Syria and other Arab and Muslim countries. These groups are supported by the local Bedouin and it cannot be ruled out that Sinai Bedouin took part in planning and executing Sunday's attack. Meanwhile, various other terror groups in the Gaza Strip are assisting them and smuggling arms and goods into the Strip.

About 1,000 soldiers belonging to the Egyptian Border Police are currently stationed in Sinai, as are other Egyptian soldiers, but their focus is on guarding the strip of coast and the roads leading to the main northern Sinai cities of El Arish and Rafah. They do not belong to elite units and are not trained to face terrorists. Their posts are poorly protected and they face Sinai, rather than Israel, out of fear of attack from Bedouin gangs or Islamicists. In many ways the neglect of the Egyptian government, which began back in the time of Mubarak, has helped turn Sinai into a no-man's land controled by Global Jihad groups and armed Bedouin.

http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/sinai-attack-proves-islamist-terrorists-are-targeting-egyptians-as-well-as-israelis-1.456174

Eugene

(61,874 posts)
24. Egypt Israel border attack leaves 'eight gunmen dead'
Mon Aug 6, 2012, 11:04 AM
Aug 2012

Source: BBC

6 August 2012 Last updated at 14:22 GMT

Egypt Israel border attack leaves 'eight gunmen dead'

Israel says it has found the bodies of eight gunmen who attacked a checkpoint on its border with Egypt, killing 16 Egyptian policemen.

The attackers attacked a border post at Rafah, captured two Egyptian army vehicles and then tried to smash their way over the border, Israel said.

One vehicle apparently blew up at the Kerem Shalom crossing, while the other was destroyed by the Israeli air force.

Egypt has declared three days of mourning for the dead policemen.

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Read more: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-19144906
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