Senate GOP accepting defeat on Obamacare repeal

[ucrdem]

Source: Politico

Passing a bill by a key end-of-month deadline appears almost impossible for Republicans.
By BURGESS EVERETT 09/07/2017 12:26 PM EDT Updated 09/07/2017 01:50 PM EDT

Senate Republicans are throwing cold water on the idea of holding another Obamacare repeal vote before their opportunity to gut the law on a party-line vote expires at the end of this month.

{snip}.

And that means the dream of repealing the law with all GOP votes is slipping away, at least for now, as Republicans turn to tax reform.

"Weve seen that we dont have 51 votes to do it, so were going to have to do it bipartisan," said Senate Majority Whip John Cornyn of Texas in an interview on Thursday morning. Asked whether the Senate would hold an Obamacare repeal vote before the Senate's budget reconciliation instructions expire, he replied: I dont believe so."

"I don't think there's much of a chance," said Sen. Orrin Hatch of Utah, the Senate Finance Committee Chairman. "I think that was pretty well decided by McCain."

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2017/09/07/obamacare-repeal-republicans-defeat-242443

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If this isn't good news I don't know what is!

[wishstar]

1. Last thing this country needs right now is taking away healthcare from millions of people

But this administration and Congress do need to take some actions to stabilize the insurance markets

[ucrdem]

4. Yes I agree that it needs to be legislatively maintained

to keep the insurance companies from trying to wreck it. So far it's proven unkillable and the latest round of voting managed to finally get its popularity over 50%. So sooner or later constituents will start complaining at enough pitch and volume to get them moving. Or not, but it will hurt them at the ballot box if they don't.

[nini]

2. it's a good thing they don't know how to govern

Their incompetence is only outdone by their hatefulness.

[mulp]

16. The reality of TANSTAAFL

They simply have no idea how to deliver the endless free lunches they have been promising to deliver for decades.

They promised that cutting costs will make everyone rich, by cutting the costs of paying workers to keep workers, customers, and the community from being harmed or killed, and the wealth effect would create tens of millions of new high paying jobs.

They promised that cutting costs will make everyone rich, by cutting the high costs of union wages and benefits when paying workers, and the wealth effect would create tens of millions of new high paying jobs.

They promised that tax cuts and cutting spending paying workers to build infrastructure like roads, rail, water and sewer, levies, schools, etc will put more money in your pocket than working at a job, so you will be richer, thus the wealth effect will increase consumer spending and create tens of millions of new high paying jobs.

They promise that free market health care will provide free health care which will increase access because to cost cutting by providers will increase the number of highly paid and motivated doctors spending lots of time with you at your beck and call.

Reality says TANSTAAFL.

[nini]

17. Welcome to DU

My grandma warned me about them when I was a kid. I'm 60 now.. she was right.

I admit I did have to look TANSTAAFL up LOL

[question everything]

3. You know, we do not rely on the ACA

but I agree that it could use some tweaking, or perhaps serious modifications. After all, it was a brand new program and now, after being tested in the field could use some changes.

(I don't think that universal care can come now, just facts of life).

If we had a normal president, a seasoned person who is used to negotiations, to give and take - no, not that idiotic art of the deal where you declare bankruptcies - that person could have called delegates from both parties, also some interesting parties and encourage a new deal.

Where are you Bill Clinton, when we need you?

[murielm99]

10. I agree.

ACA is a beginning, something to build on. That was always the intention. Canada had to build their health care system over a period of years. We can do the same. Canada is a good model, because they are a large country, and North American.

Scrapping this program and starting over is not going to happen. I think universal health care is being used on DU as a wedge issue. This is pie in the sky stuff, at present.

[BigmanPigman]

5. I do not trust any of them and will wait to breath a sigh of relief

when the calendar rolls over. I have too much to lose.

[ucrdem]

9. I don't blame you.

Still I think the chances they'll revist this stinker are slim indeed. Remember those angry town hall meetings where GOP House members would have to exit from the roof to avoid being mauled by constituents? I don't think they'd want to go through that again at the start of an election season.

[bluestarone]

19. agree

1000% best answer i've seen

[Frustratedlady]

6. Didn't they say that Trump reduced funding for a portion of ACA?

Wasn't he hoping to drown ACA that way?


Sorry, but I don't trust Republicans one bit. I hope it's true for those who are depending on coverage. Tread lightly.

[keithbvadu2]

7. Republicans voted dozens of time to repeal the ACA when Obama would reliably veto it. Now that it's

Republicans voted dozens of time to repeal the ACA when Obama would reliably veto it.

Now that it's time to govern, republicans show their incompetence.

[ucrdem]

8. I'm not sure that Trump wouldn't also veto it at this point.

Apparently it's started to catch on and crossed the 50% approval line for the first time in August according to a Kaiser tracking poll:

http://www.kff.org/interactive/kaiser-health-tracking-poll-the-publics-views-on-the-aca/#?response=Favorable--Unfavorable&aRange=twoYear

And from the BBC in July:

The rise of Obamacare: Why is the ACA so popular?

By Courtney Subramanian
BBC News, Washington
13 July 2017

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-39157793

[keithbvadu2]

11. Wouldn't that be ironic?!

Republicans talk about 'choice'.

I choose the lower cost, better coverage healthcare that Trump promised.

Bring it on!

[not fooled]

13. So, that must mean all those idiots on faux spews who demonized the ACA--

and told lies to get their dimwitted followers to hate it for no reason--will be acknowledging that they were wrong.

Right?

[Grassy Knoll]

12. Con's Need To Do What Con's Do Best, Bitch, Moan, And Complain..

..To Govern America Has Never Been Their Strong Suite,
And Judging Their History, They Never Intended To.
Just Stop Progress-It's In Their Blood.

[hibbing]

14. "tax reform"

Have to love the language. Tax reform always means cuts for the ruling class. I have a feeling I'll be really disappointed in how many Democrats vote for the cuts. Of course they are all sponsored by corporate interests regardless of party. Sorry for being a downer.


Peace

[nycbos]

15. You would like eight years would be enough time to come up with a plan.

[LiberalLovinLug]

18. "Weve seen that we dont have 51 votes to do it, so were going to have to do it bipartisan,"

Oh the humanity!!!!!


Gee, you'd think that the national health and welfare of the country's citizens would be important enough to seek this from the start

[bluestarone]

20. awesome

great reply

[BlueIdaho]

21. Of course they could improve Obamacare

And make it better for all Americans with Democratic help - but they have no interest in doing that. Frankly the only interest they ever had was using Obamacare as an easy way to separate the rubes from their cash. It seems that dog won't hunt anymore. So it's off to the next shiny object.

[ucrdem]

22. Yep. It also made a great wedge issue, like the stupid wall and the Muslim ban.

Now that the electorate is finally figuring out what it actually is and does there's less interest in exterminating it. There's also the principle of the thing: how can doctors and dentists get filthy rich if patients start calling bullshit on their scams?