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SergeStorms

(19,192 posts)
Sat Sep 9, 2017, 12:18 AM Sep 2017

Irma now a category 5 again.

Source: National Hurricane Center

000
WTNT31 KNHC 090258
TCPAT1

BULLETIN
Hurricane Irma Advisory Number 40
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL AL112017
1100 PM EDT Fri Sep 08 2017

...IRMA MAKING LANDFALL ON THE CAMAGUEY ARCHIPELAGO OF CUBA AS A
CATEGORY 5 HURRICANE...
...HURRICANE WARNINGS EXTENDED NORTHWARD ALONG THE FLORIDA
PENINSULA...


SUMMARY OF 1100 PM EDT...0300 UTC...INFORMATION
-----------------------------------------------
LOCATION...22.1N 77.7W
ABOUT 120 MI...190 KM ESE OF CAIBARIEN CUBA
ABOUT 300 MI...485 KM SSE OF MIAMI FLORIDA
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...160 MPH...260 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT...W OR 280 DEGREES AT 13 MPH...20 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...924 MB...27.29 INCHES



Read more: http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/text/refresh/MIATCPAT1+shtml/090258.shtml



This disturbs me. Irma has taken a southwestern dip onto Cuba. I hope it's only a temporary vagary. If this gets out into the Gulf of Mexico.....
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Warpy

(111,237 posts)
1. Yep, just posted at NOAA. Cuba is getting clobbered.
Sat Sep 9, 2017, 12:20 AM
Sep 2017

Too bad the PTB won't post news out of Cuba, the preview might get some of the diehard old farts on the Florida coast to rethink things and head inland to shelter.

SergeStorms

(19,192 posts)
3. Yeah, that worries me.
Sat Sep 9, 2017, 12:26 AM
Sep 2017

Not that I want Florida to get clobbered, but if Irma doesn't turn north and gets into the Gulf of Mexico.....yikes. Somewhere else is going to take a direct hit from a cat 5. I posted earlier about how this Hurricane reminded me of Katrina. Everyone expected her to turn north and run up the Gulf Coast of Florida too. She never did, and the rest, at least for the City of New Orleans, was history.

Warpy

(111,237 posts)
8. Looks like a couple of outer feeder bands are just now moving into Miami
Sat Sep 9, 2017, 12:58 AM
Sep 2017

The Keys are pretty much in the clear, but won't stay that way. I imagine when I get up tomorrow (I'm in the Rockies and I keep terrible hours), NOAA will have a better idea what's happening.

yardwork

(61,588 posts)
12. I don't remember that about the Katrina models.
Sat Sep 9, 2017, 09:33 AM
Sep 2017

My recollection is that the models predicted days in advance that Katrina would hit New Orleans.

SergeStorms

(19,192 posts)
13. The early models....
Sat Sep 9, 2017, 02:42 PM
Sep 2017

when it started out as a tropical depression had it going right up the Gulf Coast, similar to Irma's models right now. Of course Irma is already a full blown hurricane, where Katrina was a tropical depression, then a tropical storm, and then a hurricane within a few days. No one paid it much mind until it didn't make a turn up the coast, and went out over the Gulf of Mexico and gathered strength like a mofo.
I remember studying it quite well, because my daughter was going to College in New Orleans at the time. She was supposed to leave Saturday to start her senior year, but I forbid her to get on the plane. She was MAD at me, but it may have saved her life.
So yeah, I have a vivid recollection of Katrina's pedigree, from her start to her unfortunate finish.

SergeStorms

(19,192 posts)
4. Jose is now a.....
Sat Sep 9, 2017, 12:30 AM
Sep 2017

Cat 5 as well. If Jose hits the Island of Barbuda....well, there won't be an Island of Barbuda. They've evacuated the Island at least. There's only 1,800 people on the entire Island, but just about every dwelling there has been destroyed. If Jose clips it, there won't even be any wreckage left.

Grammy23

(5,810 posts)
5. Jose is supposed to scrape by Barbuda and smack it again.
Sat Sep 9, 2017, 12:34 AM
Sep 2017

Not that there is much left to smack. Poor people who lived there! They were supposed to move them to Antigua to avoid the worst of the storm. There was practically no place left for shelter on Barbuda.

Katia is going (or has already gone) into Mexico.

So, in theory, they should be no threat to the U.S. But aren't Harvey and Irma ENOUGH? Yikes!

xor

(1,204 posts)
9. I thought Jose was expected to far out in the Atlantic and not really hit anything.
Sat Sep 9, 2017, 01:20 AM
Sep 2017

No breaks for those people on those tiny islands.

SergeStorms

(19,192 posts)
10. It's going to....
Sat Sep 9, 2017, 02:08 AM
Sep 2017

take a hard right turn just after it hits Barbuda, perhaps Anguilla. And you're right, although there's no one on the Island of Barbuda at the moment, they certainly aren't catching a break. People probably still wanted to sift through what belongings they had left, but Jose will scrub anything that remained out to sea. Only 1,800 people live on the Island, but those are 1,800 people whose lives have been completely devastated. I suppose they're lucky to be alive, but.......

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,841 posts)
6. I believe Katia has made landfall in Mexico.
Sat Sep 9, 2017, 12:39 AM
Sep 2017

And that she was only a Cat 2. Only. As if even a Cat 1 isn't still a hurricane.

SergeStorms

(19,192 posts)
11. Not many people....
Sat Sep 9, 2017, 02:10 AM
Sep 2017

live on the Cuban Keys and along that part of the northern coast. Those that do will probably get relief from Cubans living in the U.S. They take care of their own, unlike many Americans.

Skittles

(153,138 posts)
14. they do a great job of helping themselves, from what I have read
Sun Sep 10, 2017, 04:17 PM
Sep 2017

excellent disaster preparedness

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
15. Here's St Martin after the storm. People are helping,for the most part orderly. Heartbreaking.
Sun Sep 10, 2017, 04:39 PM
Sep 2017

9/9, Polémique sur les évacuations de Saint-Martin



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