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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Thu Sep 14, 2017, 03:00 PM Sep 2017

Ryan: 'There is no agreement' on DACA

Source: The Hill



BY SCOTT WONG - 09/14/17 01:11 PM EDT

Shortly after speaking with President Trump, Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) said Thursday there is still “no agreement” with Democrats on how to help thousands of immigrants brought to the U.S. illegally as children.

“There is no agreement. The president and [his] chief of staff called me from Air Force One today to discuss what was discussed, and it was a discussion, not an agreement or a negotiation,” Ryan told reporters at his weekly news conference. “These were discussions, not negotiations. This isn’t an agreement,” he said.

The Speaker’s remarks came after a confusing 18 hours in which the two top Democrats, Senate Minority Leader Charles Schumer (N.Y.) and House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (Calif.), emerged from a White House dinner with Trump and announced that they had reached an agreement in principle over how to handle 800,000 recipients of the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program.

That emerging agreement, the Democrats said, includes protecting the DACA recipients from deportation plus some border security measures that Republicans favor. The border wall that Trump campaigned on would not be part of this deal, both sides agreed.



Read more: http://thehill.com/homenews/house/350683-ryan-there-is-no-agreement-on-daca




As Trump talks DACA deal with Democrats, GOP leaders try to reassert control

By Elise Viebeck, Ed O'Keefe and Mike DeBonis September 14 at 2:52 PM

Republican leaders in Congress sought to reassert their authority with an unpredictable White House Thursday as President Trump dangled a potential deal with Democrats to allow hundreds of thousands of undocumented immigrants to stay in the United States.

House Speaker Paul D. Ryan (R-Wis.), in his first public comments since Trump met with Democrats the previous night, agreed in broad strokes with his goal of protecting “dreamers” and toughening U.S. border security.

But Ryan dismissed the possible deal as preliminary “discussions” and insisted any agreement must have buy-in from GOP leaders.

“The president understands he has to work with the congressional majorities to get any kind of legislative solution,” Ryan said at a news conference on Capitol Hill.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/trumps-dealing-on-daca-sparks-confusion-shifting-alliances-on-capitol-hill/2017/09/14/c9b2c904-994c-11e7-82e4-f1076f6d6152_story.html?
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Ryan: 'There is no agreement' on DACA (Original Post) DonViejo Sep 2017 OP
Poor Ryan! machoneman Sep 2017 #1
Not for nothing, but he's the Speaker of the House Cosmocat Sep 2017 #3
Actually Ryan cannot single handedly kill the bill Massacure Sep 2017 #8
This would be fun if Dreamers lives were not involved Freethinker65 Sep 2017 #2
Yeah, I don't get what people are seeing here Cosmocat Sep 2017 #4
But but but underpants Sep 2017 #5
Right, there is no agreement. JustABozoOnThisBus Sep 2017 #6
So, 45 lied when he said Ryan an McConnell were on board. ananda Sep 2017 #7

machoneman

(4,006 posts)
1. Poor Ryan!
Thu Sep 14, 2017, 03:08 PM
Sep 2017

Outfoxed, outmaneuvered, outsmarted!

Maybe we get together a GoFundMe page to buy him....a big crying towel!

More disappointment to come, Eddie Munster!

Cosmocat

(14,564 posts)
3. Not for nothing, but he's the Speaker of the House
Thu Sep 14, 2017, 03:35 PM
Sep 2017

he holds the key to one of the chambers.

I don't get how people are talking about this.

45 can't do jack with Schumer and Pelosi.

Ryan and Turtle aren't going to let anything they come up with go anywhere, they have a couple hundred blood thirsty radical members of their caucuses who, based on modern full on crazy republican standards would just short of literally tar and feather them if they did.



Massacure

(7,520 posts)
8. Actually Ryan cannot single handedly kill the bill
Thu Sep 14, 2017, 10:39 PM
Sep 2017

The House has a concept that's called a discharge petition. If a majority (218) of the members sign a discharge petition against a piece of legislation, it skips committee processes and automatically comes to the House floor. Of course that means that Pelosi needs to get 40 or so Republicans on board.

I'm not familiar with any similar rule in the Senate.

Freethinker65

(10,010 posts)
2. This would be fun if Dreamers lives were not involved
Thu Sep 14, 2017, 03:19 PM
Sep 2017

Ryan knows the wall is stupid and that DACA is popular, but now Pelosi has him and Trump in a very awkward position. If they go all in for a wall, taxpayers and sane Americans will not be happy...and any decrease in taxes/GOP tax plan is practically dead. If they give up the wall for DACA by passing a clean bill, Pelosi will now be seen as winning by the lunatic Trump supporters.

Unfortunately those with lives depending on DACA have to live through this back and forth political gamesmanship.

Cosmocat

(14,564 posts)
4. Yeah, I don't get what people are seeing here
Thu Sep 14, 2017, 03:45 PM
Sep 2017

So 45, Shumer and Pelosi are playing footsy?

1) Ryan and Turtle are not going to do ANYTHING that Schumer or Pelosi scheme up because they would basically be turning over their leadership, particularly Ryan, who would all but be tarred and feathered by his lunatic's within an hour of doing so.

2) They literally could give a shit about public perception, they are long past that.

3) The Rs in congress are going to come up with a tax plan that screws us and pays their obligatory tithe to their masters, and pass it.

underpants

(182,779 posts)
5. But but but
Thu Sep 14, 2017, 03:57 PM
Sep 2017

Trump said his administration is “working with everybody” to achieve that. “Republican, we’re working with Democrat. I just spoke with Paul Ryan. He’s on board. Everybody is on board,” Trump said. “They want to do something.”

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,338 posts)
6. Right, there is no agreement.
Thu Sep 14, 2017, 04:00 PM
Sep 2017

When something passes House and Senate, and is signed by the prez, then there's agreement.

Until then, it's discussion.

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