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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Sun Sep 17, 2017, 10:51 AM Sep 2017

California tears into Trump

Source: Politico




The finale of the state's legislative session was a primal scream aimed at the president.

By DAVID SIDERS 09/17/2017 06:56 AM EDT

SACRAMENTO — Ripping into Donald Trump in the final hours of this year’s legislative session, California lawmakers passed measures urging Congress to censure the president, bucking his immigration policies and seeking to force him to release his tax returns. They also formally called on Trump “to publicly apologize to all Americans for his racist and bigoted behavior.”

If there was any question about the location of the nerve center of the anti-Trump resistance, it was settled with a defiant fusillade of legislation Friday and Saturday memorializing California’s antipathy toward the president.

The end-of-session rush of bills served as a reminder of the limitations of the president’s recent diplomacy with Democrats in Washington — and of an unrelenting effort to keep pressure on the president from afar.

“The issue of resistance is beyond the symbolism,” Senate President Pro Tem Kevin de León said after the session officially closed. “There’s real lives at stake … and I think that a lot of other municipalities, as well as other states, are looking towards California … to be the leader of this resistance.”


Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2017/09/17/california-tears-into-trump-242801

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California tears into Trump (Original Post) DonViejo Sep 2017 OP
I love my 2nd state. lark Sep 2017 #1
proud to be Californian msdogi Sep 2017 #2
Spent all my life in CA not fooled Sep 2017 #3
Many American families face the same dilemma FakeNoose Sep 2017 #6
+ 1 red dog 1 Sep 2017 #8
Another proud California. I've been in Atlanta GA for most of the past year watching my latest politicaljunkie41910 Sep 2017 #11
Yep not fooled Sep 2017 #12
So proud of my beautiful state. SunSeeker Sep 2017 #4
yay us..... dhill926 Sep 2017 #5
Trump will seek retribution against California for these measures Zorro Sep 2017 #7
Kick! red dog 1 Sep 2017 #9
CA! Bear Flag Republic! We shall never give up. byronius Sep 2017 #10
Candidates who won't disclose taxes shouldn't be on the ballot Gothmog Sep 2017 #13

lark

(23,061 posts)
1. I love my 2nd state.
Sun Sep 17, 2017, 10:56 AM
Sep 2017

My best friends are there and so is a big part of my heart. If it weren't for my elderly sister being all alone, I would move back. If CA secedes, I will drag her with us and we will move back to our 2nd "home".

not fooled

(5,801 posts)
3. Spent all my life in CA
Sun Sep 17, 2017, 11:50 AM
Sep 2017

until moving 3 years ago to freedumb-loving, puke-dominated, sorry-ass Error-Zona for a good opportunity at work.

Can't stand it, especially since I'm not in blue portions Phoenix or Tucson. Moving back to CA within 2 years.

As the red states descend into madness, living in a blue state--where things work--will be increasingly important.

Just one example of the dysfunction here: I have a friend whose husband is suffering from an inherited, terminal illness. She has been heroically caring for him at home, but the time has come when he has to go into long-term care. His nursing home costs will be paid by Medicaid. It likely will be many years before he passes. The pukes in the state house are working to enact dump's Medicaid-decimating agenda on the state level, i.e. stealthily plotting state-by-state in the puke states that took the Medicaid expansion to wreck that aspect of the ACA. I have warned my friend--who doesn't follow politics and doesn't vote--but can only hope that her husband receives the care he needs before the AZ puke plan for Medicaid goes into effect.

FakeNoose

(32,579 posts)
6. Many American families face the same dilemma
Sun Sep 17, 2017, 03:20 PM
Sep 2017

Trump and the GOP are making it so much harder for these people (their families included.)

I agree that the state one lives in DOES make a difference, but ultimately it's the federal government that will ruin it for all of us. Unless we get rid of Trump very, very soon!

politicaljunkie41910

(3,335 posts)
11. Another proud California. I've been in Atlanta GA for most of the past year watching my latest
Mon Sep 18, 2017, 02:55 PM
Sep 2017

grandbaby while her parents work. My husband is retired and I had to have heart surgery unexpectedly in 2015 and subsequently developed anxiety/panic attacks, and could no longer travel for my job staying alone in hotels in strange cities. So I quit my job at the end of 2015. Last week after the hurricane, Atlanta was supposed to get a "tropical storm", but the "tropical storm" never came although we did get some rain. But Atlanta gets lots of rain, and this rain was no different, however, it knocked out the power for a week. We lost power on Monday and it came back late Friday. Some parts of the city still have no power. I had planned to return to California that following Saturday because I had some business to take take of with my home and some doctor and dental appointments I had scheduled since I was going to be home. I was so glad to be back home in my state, with my recently paved roads, and power on. FTR, our roads where I live, are in excellent condition because they get paved on a regular basis. We might pay more in taxes than Georgians, but at least I can see the fruits of my tax dollars at work. We have new schools, and updated schoolrooms, parks and services, and police and emergency services that respond promptly when call. As someone with a heart problem, I love my city and my state, and apparently the Repugs like it too, since there are so many of them here.

not fooled

(5,801 posts)
12. Yep
Mon Sep 18, 2017, 04:01 PM
Sep 2017

In ErrorZona now, in the area I'm in--on the outskirts of a major city--every.freakin.time. there is a storm the power goes out. Count on it. At least 10 times in the 2+ years I've lived here.

The utility "provider" is the execrable APS, which makes campaign contributions to candidates for their "regulator", the Arizona Corporations Commission, and lobbied for an ~$70 per month surcharge for homes with solar. Even the pukes here couldn't stomach that and knocked it down to $5. However, APS just won the "right" to charge $5/month for those of us who refuse to install their electronic surveillance devices aka "smart meters".

Most recently in CA I lived in the mountainous part of San Diego County, i.e. just the place you'd expect the power to go out. I think there were one or maybe two brief outages in the 10+ years I lived there. Before that, elsewhere I lived in CA same thing--power outages were rare. There is no excuse for the frequency of them here in AZ other than APS doesn't want to--and doesn't have to--properly maintain and upgrade their infrastructure to ensure reliable delivery. There are horror stories also out here about privatized water systems, e.g. one that's run by a local, politically connected family that loots it and then raises the rates on a regular basis.

Can't wait to get back to CA.

Zorro

(15,722 posts)
7. Trump will seek retribution against California for these measures
Sun Sep 17, 2017, 03:29 PM
Sep 2017

Eliminating the federal deduction for state taxes is probably higher on his "tax reform" agenda now.

Gothmog

(144,919 posts)
13. Candidates who won't disclose taxes shouldn't be on the ballot
Thu Sep 28, 2017, 03:25 PM
Sep 2017

Prof. Tribe thinks that these laws are constitutional http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/14/opinions/state-laws-requiring-tax-return-disclosure-legal-tribe-painter-eisen/index.html

Our federal Constitution allows states to create ballot access requirements that ensure that the ballots for every office, including the office of presidential elector, are comprehensible and informative.

A line must of course be drawn between permissible ballot access laws and impermissible attempts to add qualifications to those specified in the federal Constitution. But our research and analysis lead us to conclude that tax return disclosure laws such as the one proposed in California resemble ballot access laws in structure, impact, and purpose much more closely than they resemble laws imposing additional qualifications for presidential office.

As a result, we believe these laws comport fully with the U.S. Constitution.
Unlike prohibited qualifications, these laws do not impose substantive requirements on candidates beyond those imposed by the Constitution itself; that is, these laws do not limit which candidates may run for office based on any particular information in their tax return. Thus, they do not create an insurmountable barrier in advance to any set of individuals otherwise qualified under Article II of our Constitution. Instead, these laws require federally qualified candidates to comply with a relatively minor process of tax disclosure. That is something competing candidates can and should readily do in order to allow voters to make more informed judgments about those contenders' characters or backgrounds.

The states have legitimate justifications for providing their voters with this important information. The proposed laws mandate transparency rather than interposing obstacles that some would-be candidates cannot overcome.

Tax returns provide information that is more broad, specific, and reliable than the candidate financial disclosure that is currently required. Candidate financial disclosure forms are generally designed to identify and prevent conflicts of interest -- and tax return information could serve a similar function.
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