Georgia Tech Student-Activist Shot Dead by Campus Police

[icymist]

Source: NBC News

An engineering student who was also an LGBTQ activist was shot and killed by Georgia Tech campus police on Saturday night, officials said Sunday.

The school identified the victim as Scout Schultz, 21, a fourth year engineering student from Lilburn, Georgia, who police said was armed with a knife. They made contact with him outside of a campus parking garage after they received a 911 call at 11:17 p.m. on Saturday, according to the Georgia Bureau of Investigation. The original call reported that Schultz was also carrying a gun, officials said.

In a video taken by a witness, Schultz can be heard yelling "Shoot me!" at police, as they tell him to drop the knife.



Read more: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/georgia-tech-student-activist-shot-dead-campus-police-n802146?cid=sm_npd_nn_tw_ma

[PoliticAverse]

1. 'Schultz can be heard yelling "Shoot me!"' - "Suicide by Cop"? n/t

[Turbineguy]

2. After 4 years of engineering classes?

Why wait that long?

[Adrahil]

25. Not to be glib, but...

Late nights and long hours characterized my senior year in engineering. Some of my classmates used stimulants to get through it.

[reflection]

37. BSME here, and I did the same thing.

Anything to stay awake through the night into the next morning so I could plow through the tests on fumes and then face-plant in my dorm bed as long as it took me to recover.

[NickB79]

26. By my last year of college, I was burnt out

A heavy course load in a demanding major, all that stress, and untreated depression can be lethal. I know that feeling all too well.

[icymist]

3. I don't know. Definitely some issues going on here.

It's really sad.

[Me.]

4. So ....What?

They were doing him a favor?

[Ilsa]

5. They shouldn't have shot him. Wait him out.

Let him fall asleep, get thirsty, drug him with the water to put him out, gas him with something to make him pass out (?), anything besides killing him!

WTF? I hope the university does something about this.

[Initech]

6. They should have tazed and thhen put him in the slammer.

Although I cant believe the dad's first reaction was to trash Antfa.

[Ilsa]

7. Slammer or involuntary commitment for 72 hours?

%

[Initech]

8. Well at least an overnight stay in jail.

[Ilsa]

11. I think he needs a psych eval to prevent

Possible suicidal behavior in jail.

[Oneironaut]

9. I don't understand what this has to do with Antifa. Beware of what?

It's an extremely odd comment. I'm sorry for his loss, though.

[Ilsa]

10. The father is traumatized, no doubt, but I think he was

giving a specific warning to antifa when a general warning to all activists would have been better.

[Initech]

12. I thought that was an odd comment as well.

Dude, your son just died and you have to bring Antifa into this? What does that have to do with anything?

[former9thward]

17. Maybe his dad knows more about his son's life than anonymous internet posters.

[LanternWaste]

40. Or maybe he's simply acting out...

Or maybe he's simply acting out... since we're qualifying our statements with "maybe" , you can conjecture anything that validates a petulant, though irrelevant response.

[icymist]

13. Yeah, I didn't quite get the antifa remark either. nt

[lunasun]

22. University police don't carry stun guns but do have pepper spray per NBC report

Seems stun guns should be on them at all times to prevent murder

I think the dad was saying the cops will shoot you Antifa they shot him so beware

[NickB79]

28. I'd think he'd just charge them with the knife if they tried to wait him out

If he really was that suicidal. And no cop is trained to use tasers or pepper spray against someone with a knife or gun if they come at you.

[Hoyt]

31. I agree. He did not appear to be a real threat to police or students.

[haveahart]

14. Trump has made it even easier for law enforcement to shoot and kill whomever they damn

well feel like killing.

[LittleBlue]

15. I feel bad for the officer who had to shoot her

He/she will be traumatized for her selfish decision to involve others in ending her own life.

[Not Ruth]

27. No gender pronouns please, they are disrespectful

"The school identified the victim as Scout Schultz, 21, a fourth-year engineering student from Lilburn, Georgia, who police said was armed with a knife. Schultz, president of Georgia Tech's Pride Alliance, identified as non-binary and intersex and preferred to be referred to with they/them gender pronouns, according to the alliance's website."

[Jose Garcia]

38. I believe that LittleBlue was referring to the office who shot the student

[Not Ruth]

39. Her

[Not Ruth]

41. Deadname

Fascinating stuff....

"Ugh I wish they hadn't shared their deadname 😕 I haven't seen any other reports that do- just for future reference it's not ok to use a trans person's deadname (the name they were given at birth but have since changed) unless they give permission & its super common to deadname or misgender trans people after death. They were doing pretty good until they felt it necessary to do that- it's very strange and voyeuristic to point that out when if they had wanted to use that name they wouldn't have changed it. We don't need to know that."

[LittleBlue]

43. I should have been clear that I was referring to the officer

I do not know if the officer is a man or woman. It was not a reference to the deceased. Bad sentence structure. Sorry.

[enough]

16. When campus police end up shooting a student, something is very wrong. NT

[Red Mountain]

18. Truly wrong

Deescalate. Back off. Your lives are not in danger, officers. You may have to shoot to protect others......but killing because someone doesn't follow your orders isn't right.

The next video after this one resulted in an aggressive officer being shot. He wouldn't have been had he backed off and asked for help and the subject of this thread would also be ok.

Shitty training. It doesn't have to be this way. It shouldn't........and the lawyers will make the best of it right up until the insurance companies demand standards that minimize these incidents.

Sad to say.

[icymist]

19. (Related article/ more in depth) Georgia Tech police fatally shoot student holding knife

...At least two students shared cellphone video showing the tense interaction between Schultz and Georgia Tech police officers, Channel 2 Action News reported.

Schultz yells at police to shoot and officers respond, “Drop the knife! Drop the knife!" more than a dozen times.

"Nobody wants to hurt you,” an officer can be heard saying. “Drop the knife."

A multipurpose tool found on the ground is believed to be the knife Schultz held. The tool did not show an extended blade.

http://www.kiro7.com/news/trending-now/georgia-tech-police-fatally-shoot-student-holding-knife/610818441

Video at the link

[Tarc]

20. A tragedy all around, but

Anyone who advances on a cop with a weapon is going to meet a bad end. They had no choice in the matter.

[inwiththenew]

21. Looks like suicide by cop

There were 13 separate "Drop the knife" commands given to him in the course of that video.

[FM123]

23. I am so sad to hear what happened, this just breaks my heart.

[enough]

24. After seeing the very clear video with audio, this shooting seems totally unnecessary.

Is there no way to subdue an individual armed with a knife when you have more than one officer involved, other than killing the person point blank?

[Not Ruth]

30. There might be, but anything that can subdue you can also be lethal

[MLAA]

29. This is so sad. GA Tech is my alma mater.

[Hoyt]

32. Mine too.

[groundloop]

34. Holy Shit.... me too....we need to start the Georgia Tech wing of DU

My son just graduated from Tech also.

Anyway, as far as I can determine, this was the first time any Tech police officer has ever fired a weapon in the line of duty. It's a sad day for the entire Tech community, I really really wish this incident would have ended differently.

[MLAA]

36. I too can't recall any serious incidents since I started there in 1978

[lostnfound]

35. Me too. Nt

[JDC]

33. Why is their training shoot to kill in all situations?

Did he really charge at them? Shoot a warning shot, shoot the legs; Shooting To Kill just to make sure doesn't always seem prudent.

And telling someone to drop the knife 12-13 times doesn't mean time to execute. "Nothing left that I can do, I'm off in 20 mins". Try telling them 15 times.

[yagotme]

42. Training is generally "Shoot to stop".

Center mass aiming point, largest target on the body. A warning shot is rarely utilized, as officers (individuals, too) are responsible for every round they fire. A warning shot (which is also deadly force) may ricochet into someone else. Shooting at the legs is difficult, and can be as deadly as a center chest hit if the artery is struck. Also, police aren't always "gun types". I have seen some horrible targets on police/corrections ranges. Local police chief years ago was happy that he only missed the silhouette 3 times at 25 yards.

[jcmaine72]

44. Fake cops with real guns. Not a good combo.

The again, actual cops with guns are a pretty shitty combo as well.