Trump says U.S. prepared to take further action in Venezuela

[DonViejo]

Source: Politico




Speaking at dinner with Latin America leaders on the sidelines of the U.N. General Assembly, Trump says democracy must be restored ‘very, very soon.’

By HENRY C. JACKSON 09/18/2017 10:59 PM EDT

President Donald Trump said Monday that the “growing crisis” in Venezuela was unacceptable and that the U.S. was ready to take further action to ensure democracy was restored in the Latin American nation.

“The Venezuelan people are starving. … ” Trump said, speaking at a dinner with leaders from the region on the sideline of the U.N. General Assembly in New York. “The country is collapsing, their democratic institutions are being destroyed.” Trump called the situation “totally unacceptable.” The president laid blame at the feet of Venezuela’s leader, Nicolas Maduro, who he said was propelling the nation’s collapse and destroying its democratic pillars. He said the United States had to “take important steps to hold the regime accountable.”

“We’re prepared to take further action if the government of Venezuela persists,” Trump said.

Last month, Trump raised the possibility of U.S. military intervention in Venezuela if the situation did not improve, in remarks that were initially met with alarm there. He didn’t mention military action in his comments to Latin American leaders Monday, and didn’t specify what additional action he would take. The U.S. has already applied stiff sanctions on the country, one of the world’s top oil producers.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2017/09/18/trump-venezuela-latin-america-242867

[woodsprite]

1. I think the ass needs to concentrate on taking care of Harvey, Irma, and

soon to be Maria victims along with others here in the United States who need help -- not a "Wag the Dog" operation and oil grab in Venezuela.

Let's rewrite that one paragraph:

“[American] people are starving [and homeless]. … ” Trump said, speaking at a dinner with leaders from the region on the sideline of the U.N. General Assembly in New York. “The country is collapsing, their democratic institutions are being destroyed.” Trump called the situation “totally unacceptable.” The president laid blame at the feet of [America]’s leader, [Donald Trump], who he said was propelling the nation’s collapse and destroying its democratic pillars.

[AJT]

2. "The country is collapsing, their democratic institutions are being destroyed"

He's just jealous because their collapse is going so much faster than ours, he hates to lose.

[get the red out]

3. Venezuela has oil

Which means to me that as bad as things are for people there, Trump/Republican intervention would make it worse, like trusting thieves to help you out.

[JI7]

15. And Putin is invested in it which means trump isn't going to do anything

[gordianot]

4. One thing no one should ever worry about is being acceptable or unacceptable to Donald Trump.

The mere fact that you might have gained Donald Trump's diseased attention is cause for concern.

[Maxheader]

5. Venezuela first..

Blood the troops a little before hitting the beaches
off n. korea. Reagan, before going into grenada and
central america had a concern about the time length
between combat action for our troops..'Blooded'
were the words used I believe.

[Perseus]

8. You may need to explain what you mean

and the fact that you use a Che Guevara logo to represent you makes your input suspect. I wonder how much you really know about Guevara, he was not someone to idolize, unless of course you also idolized Hugo Chavez, Nicolas Maduro, and last but not least, Putin.

[MGKrebs]

11. Guevara was not perfect, but he did a lot of good things too.

He made Cuba among the most literate countries in the world.
Cuba still exports it's abundance of doctors with their excellent training because of Che's initiatives.

[EX500rider]

14. lol, did the trains run on time too?

[MGKrebs]

16. I don't think so, but he didn't drop an atomic bomb on anybody either.

[EX500rider]

17. No, he like to personally murder people at close range with a gun.

[MGKrebs]

18. That's definitely worse.

[EX500rider]

21. Well he had no access to nukes so he did the best he could...lol

[Bradical79]

22. LOL

That's a really pathetic argument to support a murderer.

[MGKrebs]

23. OK, how about George Washington. Or Teddy Roosevelt.

You think they never "murdered" anyone?

The point is, we can acknowledge a persons' accomplishments without accepting every single aspect of their life.

In the pantheon of bad dudes there are thousands that are worse than Che.

[Bradical79]

24. If you can defend them, defend them

Your whataboutism is just awful and a really sad low bar. So you support murderers if they're Communists who do some charity work. Cool.

[MGKrebs]

28. I'm just saying lots of people we look up to are also

"murderers". We don't dismiss George Washington because he killed some people in his military career. Guevara shot some spies that were giving away the positions of his rebels, probably saving many lives as a result, while trying to take back his country from the corrupt and disastrous U.S. backed dictator Batista.

Besides, images of Che have become a symbol of revolution. Someone using that symbol doesn't automatically "idolize" him. (I have no idea who the poster maxheader is and I'm not making any comment about them, only the idea that Che isn't a legitimate symbol of revolution.)

Now if somebody was using an image of Stalin I would join you in condemning that.

[Maxheader]

13. Stay on topic...

and i might reply...

[Cold War Spook]

20. Except for Reagan's ego

there never was a good reason for us to invade Grenada. A lot easier to just bomb the extended runways a few times and they would get the hint.

[IronLionZion]

6. How are sanctions going to help?

or is he planning on taking their oil somehow?

Venezuela is basically a failed state thanks to their own government's mismanagement plus the global collapse of oil prices. Not sure anything this bumbling buffoon would do will help but I bet he'll manage to make it even worse for them.

[WinkyDink]

7. I hear an illegal invasion is always good for bringing democracy to a sovereign nation.

[Perseus]

9. Venezuela is no longer a sovereign nation

Cuba has the leash on the Venezuelan government, and all their institutions.

A small sample...Did you know that Venezuelan's citizen ID's (cedula de identidad), driver's licenses, passports are all handled by the Cuban government? Same as voter registrations, etc.? And that the Venezuelan government pays Cuba huge dollars for those tasks?

Did you also know that the military is, in part, commanded by Cubans?

The Venezuelan people for a long time refused any outside intervention, but the situation has become so dire that they are welcoming a USA intervention with open arms, and in contrast with a USA intervention and that of Russia (and there are Russians in Venezuela brought by the regime), the USA doesn't stay, yes they may deal with the oil, and why not? but they will allow Venezuela to become what it once was.

And last, when people go out of their houses there is always a 50/50 chance that they will come back alive...talk about sovereign.

Do you know anything about the current situation in Venezuela? Do you know what a "Colectivo" is?

[WinkyDink]

10. Not sure what your point is here. That Cuba is evil and the US is not (do YOU know of American

intervention in Latin America?)?

[MGKrebs]

12. Venezuelan's... passports are all handled by the Cuban government?

Where does this information come from?

[NickB79]

27. Do you have any sources to cite? nt

[TeamPooka]

19. Because America First means starting wars with two countries?

[Odoreida]

25. Almost like the good old days of Standard Oil owning the place n/t

[Eliot Rosewater]

26. For gods sake STOP doing things, you dont have a clue what you are doing or saying!

Play with the toys they let you have and STOP doing things.


Someone on Stephanie Miller tweeted this, I am paraphrasing