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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Mon Sep 25, 2017, 12:34 PM Sep 2017

Trump says he groped Melania in public, Ivanka looks down on him, in newly released recordings

Source: Newsweek



BY NINA BURLEIGH ON 9/25/17 AT 8:29 AM

September 25, 2017

Donald Trump thinks Ivanka “looks down on me,” concedes he groped Melania in public and knows his compulsive hand-washing “could be a psychological problem,” according to a new archive of all the conversations he had on air with the Howard Stern Show.

Those comments, along with various eyebrow-raising but predictable vulgarities, can be found in a new, online archive of Trump’s 15 hours of radio banter with the shock jock. In them, he discusses the relative hotness of his wives (and almost every other female celebrity of the moment) and his feelings about his daughter Ivanka, while chortling with Stern’s crew as they joked about who was more “gay,” and whether getting vomited on was more gross than eating food that had been on someone’s anus.

In one September 2004 call, he and Stern were bantering about how Ivana was dating a “blueblood” from Bedminster, New Jersey, and joking about how their kids were more blue blooded than they were. “I think my daughter looks down on me,” Trump admitted. “She said, 'oh my god—”

The two then turned to how much money Trump was going to leave his growing brood (Barron was not yet born). “I’m going to give them Trump Online University,” he said. “And charity gets a lot.”

During the 2016 presidential campaign, Stern refused to re-air any of his conversations with the Republican nominee. “I feel Donald Trump did the show in an effort to be entertaining and have fun with us and I feel like it would be a betrayal to any of our guests if I sat there and played them now where people are attacking him," Stern said on his Sirius XM show.

Newsweek exclusively obtained the full audio and transcripts of all 15 hours of Trump talking to Stern from 1993 to August 25, 2015. Taken together, the Stern interviews are a rich Freudian case study, a gold mine for anyone trying to understand the president of the United States. The real estate magnate usually called in when he had something to hawk- a book, a prizefight, his TV show - but almost always stayed around to banter with Stern, whose preoccupation with sex and unctuous questioning style led the real estate magnate to free-associate on everything from his parents, children, upbringing, money, enemies, politics, and, of course, breasts, enhanced or not.

The interviews are collated and searchable in a massive new archive of conversations that also show Trump and his third wife, now first lady Melania Trump, were more than willing to discuss intimate details of their sex lives, even as The Donald tested the water for a presidential run in 1999. An anonymous person earlier this month sent the audio files of 35 full and unique Trump-Stern interviews by dropbox to the website factba.se. The site developers had made a public request for Stern/Trump interview audio files on various Stern fan sites and on Reddit earlier this year. The site allowed Newsweek to search the files before making them available to the public for the first time on Monday.

Trump has talked more to Stern than to any other single journalist or media personality, including Joe Scarborough, Hannity, Bill O’Reilly, Chris Matthews, Larry King or Don Imus. The voluminous archive contains more than 104,357 words Trump uttered on the Stern Show, a number which is, by the site’s calculations, 21 percent longer than “The Art of the Deal,” Trump’s first best-seller, which weighed in at 86,575 words.

Most of the conversations happened after Trump started dating Melania, and Stern usually tee’d off by asking intimate questions about the former model. In a conversation on November 11, 1999, transcribed for the site, Trump called in to hawk an upcoming prize fight at the Taj Mahal casino, then talked about PDA with Melania and how their first night went.

Stern: Have you ever felt her up in public?

Trump: Yeah.

Stern: Yeah. As I know.

Trump: I'm very well-behaved actually and almost always I'm very down the middle.

Stern: How did you meet this supermodel?

Trump: I met her at a very big party in New York. And she was there along with other supermodels and I greeted all of them and I said, that's the one that's the most beautiful.

Stern: Wow.

Trump: And she is considered beautiful by the other girls, I mean they, she's really considered most beautiful, but she's-beyond beauty, she's a very nice person.

Stern: And you got stank on your hangover the first night?

Trump: I didn't do well with her the first time.

Stern: You didn't.

Trump: No, it was not working. The whole thing was not working the first night.

On May 24, 2002, Trump again referred to getting “the right price” for Melania on a billboard.

Stern: She must be great in the sack. She must have magic. … She must do something.

Trump: Well, I let her do advertising down there because I got her for the right price, Howard [referring to Melania on a New York City billboard ad].

Stern: She must be driving you crazy.

Trump: I really made a good deal. She did go on the billboards and I got it for the right price.

Stern: And she's not a -- she's not a pain in the ass like Ivana?

Trump: No, she's great.

Stern and Trump also discussed his various marital prenups. In May 1993, Trump notes that even though he gave Ivana $25 million, she violated the prenup, “spitting all over" him by writing a roman a clef. That provoked Stern to ask him about his germ phobia. Trump admitted he washes his hands “as many times as possible,” per day.

Stern: You realize that’s a psychological problem.

Trump: It could be a psychological problem.

Stern: There’s no way for you to get … You cannot overpower this problem you know that -- I mean theoretically you know, because that's obsessive-compulsive, right? Have you ever gone to a psychiatrist to eliminate that problem?

Trump: No. I like it. I like cleanliness. Cleanliness is a nice thing. Not only hands, body, everything.

Stern then asks if Trump makes the models he dates (many of whom they had rated together) take AIDS tests.

Trump: I own 25 percent of Goodyear Tire and Rubber.

Stern: You wear a rubber? There you go, there's something interesting you don't hear every day on TV.

After putting Melania on the phone with Stern once, Trump also explained that he likes women with accents, and Stern reminded him of Ivana’s Czech accent.

Trump: She’s got accent.

Stern: Well, you know what it is, the accent's cute now, but you better not get married. Because you know what happened, Ivana's accent was cute for a long time.

Trump: Yes, it was amazing and then one time I woke up that [sic] it was terrible I couldn't stand it.

On October 10, 2001, discussing ways to prevent another 9/11, Trump had a novel suggestion. "You have a red button in the plane and the pilot has a huge problem in the back he's got two or three terrorists, you know crazy," Trump said. "He presses a button and sleeping gas comes out the entire back of the plane goes to sleep."

Trump usually took the bait whenever Stern tried to get him talking about which celebrities he would “bang” or how often he and Melania had sex, but occasionally he deflected him: In May 8, 1993, he noted in the recordings, “I like Howard but I have to be crazy to be here.”

But Trump kept coming back for more.

The interview archive resembles livestream from the boys’ table in a 7th grade cafeteria. Trump eagerly rated women’s bodies, shared details of sex with his wife and roared at scatological jokes.

In a new book released this month called "The Dangerous Case of Donald Trump", 27 psychiatrists and mental health experts assess Trump from afar. Psychologists Rosemary Sword and Philip Lombardo write that Trump’s impulsivity and immaturity are signs of a person exhibiting “unbridled and extreme present hedonism,” a syndrome related to arrested emotional development due to childhood trauma.

“Without proper individual assessment we can only make a best guess about whether Trump suffers from arrested emotional development which may or may not be a factor in his extreme present hedonism,” they write. Yet, based on “his bullying behavior, his immature remarks about sex, and his childlike need for constant attention, we can speculate that the traumatizing event was when he was sent away to military school at the age of thirteen.”

Trump first expressed interest in running for president in 1988, he ran briefly in 1999 and then considered again in 2011. Trump’s last appearance on Stern was August 25, 2015, two months after Trump announced his candidacy. That day, Trump declined the deejay’s request to rate the hotness of Megyn Kelly. “Well, you know in the old days I would not have minded answering that question, but today I'll take a pass,” he said.

After the “grab ‘em by the pussy” Entertainment Tonight hot mic tape release in October last year, Melania Trump went on CNN and told Anderson Cooper she had warned her husband that Stern was bad for him. “He was pushed on and many times, I give him an advice and I didn’t agree to do all the tapes on Howard Stern, with Billy Bush,” she said. “Because I know those people. They hook him on, they — they try to get from him some — some inappropriate and dirty language.”

In April last year, candidate Trump explained that the Stern conversations were simply good fun. “I never anticipated running for office or being a politician, so I could have fun with Howard on the radio and everyone would love it. People do love it,” Trump said. “I could say whatever I wanted when I was an entrepreneur, a business guy.”


Read more: http://www.newsweek.com/trump-melania-ivanka-terrorists-howard-stern-670309



Full article posted with the permission of Newsweek -- Don


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Trump says he groped Melania in public, Ivanka looks down on him, in newly released recordings (Original Post) DonViejo Sep 2017 OP
The republican "family-values" role model* is Achilleaze Sep 2017 #1
BTW, be careful when dealing with any of them in any situation, even if you are family. Eliot Rosewater Sep 2017 #2
"arrested emotional development" Ya think? mountain grammy Sep 2017 #3
He is disgusting Pachamama Sep 2017 #4
Mentally deranged, revolting, sick fuck. PearliePoo2 Sep 2017 #5
Go, Mika! nt tblue37 Sep 2017 #12
Trump's supported by some Christian leaders left-of-center2012 Sep 2017 #6
How would they know if someone's sent by Satan? Dave Starsky Sep 2017 #9
But, but ... left-of-center2012 Sep 2017 #10
I just sort of skipped around--and I am looking for the nearest bathroom. what a disgusting niyad Sep 2017 #7
Did one poor soul listen to all of this in order to share excerpts? TNNurse Sep 2017 #8
the traumatizing event was when he was sent away to military school at the age of thirteen. Frustratedlady Sep 2017 #11
The young teen I knew who was sent to military school to be handled tblue37 Sep 2017 #13
I went to military school Motownman78 Sep 2017 #14
Stern, you are a POS not fooled Sep 2017 #15
He's so gross. nt DesertRat Sep 2017 #16
I hate to say it, but this is an unfair attack on Trump. thesquanderer Sep 2017 #17
I hope all the kids get is Trump U LiberalFighter Sep 2017 #18
Guaranteed Trump supporters are fine with all this... mreilly Sep 2017 #19
Same germ phobia as Howard Hughes. That didn't end well....... Bengus81 Sep 2017 #20
Kick. dalton99a Sep 2017 #21
He groped Ivanka in public at the GOP convention keithbvadu2 Sep 2017 #22

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
1. The republican "family-values" role model* is
Mon Sep 25, 2017, 12:36 PM
Sep 2017

Deplorable.


* Comrade Casino, republican Draft-Dodger-in-Chief

PearliePoo2

(7,768 posts)
5. Mentally deranged, revolting, sick fuck.
Mon Sep 25, 2017, 01:14 PM
Sep 2017

Joe Scar said this morning, that it's time to ask, "Have you no sense of decency?"
To which Mika replied, it's time to ask, "Have you any marbles left?"



K&R

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
6. Trump's supported by some Christian leaders
Mon Sep 25, 2017, 01:28 PM
Sep 2017

Pat Robertson, Franklin Graham, etc.
I think they've referred to Trump as being sent by God?

Not sure what that says about their particular God.

Dave Starsky

(5,914 posts)
9. How would they know if someone's sent by Satan?
Mon Sep 25, 2017, 03:41 PM
Sep 2017

I'm guessing it has something to do with whether that person espouses the values of peace, love, tolerance, and helping those less fortunate. You know, the stuff advocated by that filthy hippie bum Jesus.

niyad

(113,258 posts)
7. I just sort of skipped around--and I am looking for the nearest bathroom. what a disgusting
Mon Sep 25, 2017, 02:47 PM
Sep 2017

piece of filth this pretend human is!!

TNNurse

(6,926 posts)
8. Did one poor soul listen to all of this in order to share excerpts?
Mon Sep 25, 2017, 03:18 PM
Sep 2017

Cause that person deserves some serious emotional support and some kind of therapy. A vacation at a spa should be a good start.

Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts)
11. the traumatizing event was when he was sent away to military school at the age of thirteen.
Mon Sep 25, 2017, 05:58 PM
Sep 2017

I've called that several times in the past for Trump. Thirteen is a sensitive age and that act was often done to relieve the parents of a problem child and let someone with more authority-type demeanor "handle" him. I'm sure it didn't happen in all families, but it is not unusual.

I knew of a young man, when I was growing up, who received the same treatment by his parents and his life, as well as his parents' lives, were ruined as a result. It was not pretty.

tblue37

(65,319 posts)
13. The young teen I knew who was sent to military school to be handled
Mon Sep 25, 2017, 09:58 PM
Sep 2017

ended up dead at 23 because he was so screwed up by the experience that he never recovered psychologically. Some kids do OK with that experience --though a lot of the out come depends on the school itself as well as on the family --but some are traumatized by it.

 

Motownman78

(491 posts)
14. I went to military school
Mon Sep 25, 2017, 10:24 PM
Sep 2017

and it helped me get into a federal service academy. Please do not feed into the negative stereotypes of "Military Schools". I had a blast and about 100 of my Facebook friends are former classmates.

not fooled

(5,801 posts)
15. Stern, you are a POS
Mon Sep 25, 2017, 11:30 PM
Sep 2017

just another celebrity ass kisser and dump enabler, shielding him from scrutiny when it mattered.

Or not--the morans including all those phony xtians who voted for him would have done so anyway.

thesquanderer

(11,986 posts)
17. I hate to say it, but this is an unfair attack on Trump.
Tue Sep 26, 2017, 10:10 AM
Sep 2017

The quote does not match the recording. Instead, it should be..

Stern: Have you ever felt her up in public?

Trump: Yeah. (laugh) Mentally. Mentally.

Stern: Yeah. As I know.

Trump: No, I'm very well-behaved actually, in almost all ways


There are so many legitimate things to get Trump on, I think it's counter-productive to give people on the right "proof" that the left is attacking him unreasonably. There's no benefit to twisting things, mis-quoting things, etc. This interview does not justify the headline, that he groped Melania in public. I'm surprised at Newsweek.
 

mreilly

(2,120 posts)
19. Guaranteed Trump supporters are fine with all this...
Tue Sep 26, 2017, 02:47 PM
Sep 2017

.... and I doubly guarantee you if they even acknowledge it's true that Trump groped Melania they'll just bellow it's just fine since that is his wife so obviously he has the right to do whatever he wants to her whether publicly or privately.

Or at the very least they will whine "It's not illegal!" after years of screaming about Michelle's bare shoulders and Barack's tan suits, for Christ's sake.

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