Hillary Clinton accuses Facebook, Twitter and Google of enabling Russian agents

[DonViejo]

Source: The Mercury News




By CASEY TOLAN | [e-mail] | Bay Area News Group
PUBLISHED: October 6, 2017 at 11:07 am | UPDATED: October 7, 2017 at 3:07 am

STANFORD — Speaking in the heart of Silicon Valley on Friday, Hillary Clinton accused Facebook, Twitter and Google of enabling Russian agents in a plot to throw the 2016 presidential election to Donald Trump.

She called for the United States to take a hard line on Russian aggression, predicting that the Kremlin would continue its attempts to influence elections as soon as next year — when dozens of congressional seats will be contested.

“Their weapon of choice is not tanks or missiles, but let’s not mince words: This is a new kind of Cold War — and it is just getting started,” the former secretary of state and Democratic presidential nominee told about 500 students at the Stanford Graduate School of Business.

She specifically called out Facebook, Twitter and Google for failing to do more to prevent Russia from influencing the election. Facebook is “the largest news platform in the world, and with that awesome responsibility they must accept accountability,” she said. Later, she added, “it’s time for Twitter to stop dragging its heels and live up to fact that its platform is being used as a tool for cyberwarfare.”

Read more: http://www.mercurynews.com/2017/10/06/hillary-clinton-san-francisco-stanford-book/

[delisen]

1. Quest for profit, personal enrichment

overcoming nation-state?

[OKNancy]

2. I saw the forum

It was more detailed than this article says, plus the headline is an exaggeration.
Of course we know how news sites love to grab you with a headline that isn't exactly what the article says.

[RKP5637]

3. It's really become a form of mind control, psyops and forming public opinion, just as dangerous in

some ways as war, but fought with mind swaying.

Psywar: "Psychological warfare (PSYWAR), or the basic aspects of modern psychological operations (PSYOP), have been known by many other names or terms, including MISO, Psy Ops, political warfare, "Hearts and Minds", and propaganda."

[dalton99a]

4. Kick.

[ucrdem]

5. Yep they proved their worth as information brokers

which is basically on a par with RW radio. Google at least started off well, and seemed to be setting itself up as the world's free library, but then they lost interest and turned Google books into a low-rent Amazon. Ditto Google news. Started out great, dwindled into Yahoo territory. Sad. At least they're not fake news peddlers on a par with Facebook and Twitter.

[PSPS]

8. Don't be so forgiving of Google News

Their news page still includes nefarious sources such as Breitbart, Sputnik, RT and Fox.

[ucrdem]

23. Good point.

They can be very crafty when they want to be, or when they're paid to be, and finding the real story can take some digging. And that's if you know what you're looking for.

[Hortensis]

6. Big voice drawing more attention to this huge problem. Unfortunately,

so many in the MSM are so invested in justifying the lies they've pushed about her for years now that much of the coverage will be negative. But at least they can't respond without publicizing this problem. She knows that.

[Achilleaze]

7. republicans leaving America defenseless

against the ACTS OF WAR that all 17 US Intelligence Agencies, and even dick frikken cheney, agree are being waged against our nation.

Republican betrayal of American democracy is the crime of the millenium.

[Not Ruth]

9. It's happening!!

Time to take social media out of politics

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

10. I like Bernie's response to all of this.

[murielm99]

19. You mean by voting against Russian sanctions?

Or waiting so long to say anything at all?

This thread is not about Bernie. It is about a forum where Hillary spoke.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

26. No.

[BigmanPigman]

11. She told Colbert that half of the reason she wrote the book was

to alert people about the Russian cyber war that 45 is doing nothing about. She wants Americans to take this seriously as a constant threat.

Why isn't Congress doing more? Sanctions are one thing but cyber warfare needs a fully funded and staffed government agency put into place permanently since this is ongoing and the Russians are light years ahead of us in this area. Our government should create a department that is fully funded with tech people who do this shit already.

[sharedvalues]

12. And no media coverage. Terrible

Zappone is one of the world's best journalists

Link to tweet

Also

[GaryCnf]

14. Do you mean the same Chris Zappone

whose website is called "Cold War Daily" and who blames the Catalonian independence (something Catalonia has sought eons) vote on the Russians?

[SharonAnn]

16. And yet, the Russians are ginning up the Catalonian independence issue. Wherever wedges exist,

The Russians will widen them
Where they don't exist, the Russians will create them
Doesn't mean the issue doesn't exist, it just means that the Russians will do everything they can to exploit the issue and tear things apart (destabilize).

[GaryCnf]

17. No Cold War rhetoric there at all? n/t

[sharedvalues]

20. Russians intervened in Catalonia vote.

Are you denying that fact?

[sharedvalues]

21. Media didn't cover Hillary

Zappone is right to point that out. Care to engage on the substance of the point?

[GaryCnf]

27. Secretary Clinton's latest remarks are a non-story

if for no other reason than that they are simply a repetition of what she has been saying and what she received tons of press for saying in "What Happened."

More importantly, because I do not discount Russian interference in our election at all, the story about Russian interference has not only been covered extensively (in particular as of late with the recent Burr/Warner press conference) AS IT SHOULD BE, that coverage has largely accepted Secretary Clinton's view that it was one of the most important factors in our 2016 loss.

Because there has been tons of coverage of Russian interference AND that coverage has been favorable to our side, Zappone's suggestion that the fact that Secretary Clinton did not get extensive coverage for repeating what she has already said multiple time (and received coverage for saying multiple times) is indicative of Russian influence in the mainstream media is simply incorrect.

As for Catalonia, the independence vote was going to come out exactly the way it did because it is the will of the people of Catalonia. Attempting to delegitimize the independence referendum, AS ZAPPONE HAS BEEN TRYING TO DO EVEN BEFORE IT WAS HELD, based on Twitter trends doesn't change that fact.

[sharedvalues]

28. False. Russia attacked the US- and is still attacking now

Hillary is one of the first saying openly that:

Russia Attacked The United States.

She called it "a war". She said this is an information war that Russia is waging. And we are losing.

Also, Russia spread disinformation in Catalonia. (Before it was held. By definition.)

These are attacks on Western democracy.

The media's dislike for Hillary, created by GOP billionaires and by Russia, aligns with their lack of coverage. It goes without saying that several of your points above echo Russia/GOP talking points. Re-evaluate your news sources.

[GaryCnf]

29. And here it comes

The "You're just like the Russians" argument starts all over again.

[sharedvalues]

30. Russia launched a war against the West - as Hillary said

[sharedvalues]

13. Fate of Western democracy.

Link to tweet

[Amimnoch]

15. There is a fix for this.

We need to get critical thinking courses, the same ones used in Universities today, into high school curriculum as required courses.

When people are trained in identifying the level of validity and integrity of their information sources, weigh said information against opposing views in an objective manner, and identify their own biases combined with removing them from the weight of their acceptance of the biased information, these fake propaganda stories will no longer be able to affect an effect of influence.

The VAST majority of the fake news out there is easily debunked with just a minuscule amount of critical thinking examination.f

An educated and informed electorate is a powerful one.

[sharedvalues]

22. That's why GOP wants to destroy public schools

Liberals tend to be critical thinkers.
GOP billionaire donors want sheeplike voters who fall for propanganda so they can persuade them to vote for cutting billionaires' taxes.
That's why the GOP pushes for their own school textbooks. It's the reason they push homeschooling. And it's the reason they want to destroy public schools. That's why DeVos is in place. That's her mission.

[ucrdem]

24. That will have to wait until we've supplied every student and their dog with a tablet

running Google, Facebook and Twitter.

[SunSeeker]

18. She is correct, as usual. nt

[lunamagica]

25. Please, keep talking Hillary. This is an issue that must not be ignored