Sociology group fires back at Roberts for 'gobbledygook' comment
Source: The Hill
BY JACQUELINE THOMSEN - 10/11/17 09:21 AM EDT
A top sociology group fired at Supreme Court Justice John Roberts for referring to sociology as gobbledygook during a Supreme Court argument last week.
Eduardo Bonilla-Silva, the president of the American Sociological Association, wrote in a letter to Roberts on behalf of the group sharing his concerns about Roberts comments.
In an era when facts are often dismissed as fake news, we are particularly concerned about a person of your stature suggesting to the public that scientific measurement is not valid or reliable and that expertise should not be trusted, the letter read. What you call gobbledygook is rigorous and empirical.
Roberts made the comments during the case Gill v. Whitford, which centered on partisan gerrymandering. He said during the arguments that he was hesitant to remove gerrymandering away from democracy and have courts make decisions on the topic based on sociological gobbledygook," according to NPR.
Read more: http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/354876-sociologists-fires-back-at-roberts-for-calling-sociology
mountain grammy
(26,619 posts)CrispyQ
(36,457 posts)I wonder if the dems will ever see power again. No one is addressing our compromised electoral process so why do we expect any different results come 2018/20? I'm almost as disgusted with the dems as I am with the repubs. The dems have played nice & haven't done a GD thing while the GOP broke every rule in the book, from the stolen elections of 2000 & 2004, to lying us into war, to the stolen SCOTUS nom, to the coup of 2016. The dems were so busy looking forward & taking the high road that now the GOP has their boot on our neck. My non-political friends, the ones who were all fired up after the election & the inauguration, who went to the marches & for the first time ever, called their reps, they are already disengaged. "It's just to draining to pay attention to," said one friend. "I count on you to keep me informed," said another. Yeah, we really are doomed.
Sorry I'm so downhead. Everyday is a new outrage & most of the people I know are sleepwalking through it.
mountain grammy
(26,619 posts)I think people are hunkering down. That's what I want to do and wish I could. Americans are good at one thing.. tuning out! It'll be the death of us. At 70, I'm wanting to spend the end of my life elsewhere. We are so processed, just like our food.
CrispyQ
(36,457 posts)Great analogy!
If I were 30 years younger, I'd be looking to leave this country.
mountain grammy
(26,619 posts)I wouldn't discourage him.
Solly Mack
(90,762 posts)Gerrymandering as a part of democracy is a bullshit statement. Gerrymandering is an attack on democracy.
To manipulate districts/borders in order to favor one party over another to gain a desired result is not democratic at all.
hedda_foil
(16,372 posts)Solly Mack
(90,762 posts)Le Gaucher
(1,547 posts)across the map was the Democratic Party.
Solly Mack
(90,762 posts)Baitball Blogger
(46,700 posts)Solly Mack
(90,762 posts)world wide wally
(21,740 posts)They are successful at their bullshit because they are so unashamed to use it.
Solly Mack
(90,762 posts)bluestarone
(16,907 posts)never thought i'd see this population of Americans fall for this bullshit Just UN-NATURAL is all i can say
AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)SpankMe
(2,957 posts)He is sworn to uphold the constitution. His comment on gerrymandering disqualifies him to be on SOCTUS - much less chief justice.
If Dems had balls, they'd write impeachment articles against this creep and attempt to introduce them. I know they would go nowhere. But it would make a bold statement on the contrast between what Democrats believe and what a partisan, right wing hack masquerading as a top judge believes.
Also, I'd like to point out that the FBI, the military and local law enforcement departments nationwide employ staff psychologists who analyze evidence, evaluate suspects and study the criminal mind to both prevent crimes and to solve cases. This "gobbledygook" has surely saved lives and has taken criminals off the streets.
John Roberts is a motherfucker. Hardcore.
Baitball Blogger
(46,700 posts)LOL! I'll give him gobblygook.
Jim__
(14,075 posts)From USA Today:
Lander was one of the principal leaders of the decade-long effort to map the human genome, and he has advised the White House and the Pentagon on innovative uses of technology for national defense. In a brief that several justices cited during Tuesday's oral arguments, Lander says the sort of data-crunching the federal government uses to assess whether a nuclear weapon will detonate properly or whether Miami is safely outside the path of a hurricane can be used to prove when political boundaries have been manipulated to guarantee one party the largest possible electoral advantage.
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Lander says technological advances that allow mapmakers to project likely electoral outcomes in thousands of different scenarios mean that a party that controls the redistricting process can pick the map that yields the most extreme partisan advantage. But he adds that the same analytical methods allow courts to discover when district lines have been manipulated to produce the maximum distortion of the electorate's will, whether by amplifying the impact of one party's voters or minimizing its opponents' ability to muster an electoral majority in most districts.
By comparing the district lines a state has adopted with all the other possible configurations that comply with state and federal law, courts can determine not only whether a given map handicaps one party's voters, but also how much. Using these reliable analytical tools, Lander says, deciding which of several possible maps yields electoral outcomes most consistent with the majority's druthers becomes "a mathematical question to which there is a right answer" exactly the sort of objective test judges worried about the corrosive effects of gerrymandering have been seeking.
turbinetree
(24,695 posts)all off voted to decimate the 1964 Voting Right Act in the Shelby case, based on race, and this asshole is going to make a decision on gerrymandering....................
Has anyone looked at what this asshole did:
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/10/colorblind-justice-john-roberts-voting-rights-north-carolina/
And lets be clear this asshole makes rules for the court and every year he has a big old meeting to make RULES, so if anyone thinks that he is in this to help the country, read this article he is not:
http://prospect.org/article/roberts-rules-protecting-corporations
"NINE DAYS AFTER SANDRA Robertsons verdict was handed down, Chief Justice John Roberts sent Congress a package of changes to the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure, the most important of which concerned discovery. Though the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure are boring, technical, and abstract, and a discussion of them can make even lawyers eyes glaze over, they are perhaps more significant than any other federal law because they are the primary rules that govern how federal courts handle litigation. They control how a party brings a lawsuit, the types and scope of pretrial discovery the parties can demand from each other, and how a case generally proceeds through the federal courts. As legal scholars Stephen Subrin and Thomas Main have written, Procedure is power, of course, so the stakes of choosing one over the other produces different winners and losers.
He should be Impeached
J_William_Ryan
(1,753 posts)And when Republicans are elected president, the consequences are negative, such as the Roberts Court
ck4829
(35,062 posts)As we are finding out.
bluestarone
(16,907 posts)even when we win the 2018 and 2020 elections we will still have a supreme court trying to stop us at every turn