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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Mon Oct 16, 2017, 08:04 AM Oct 2017

Calif. governor blocks plan to force Trump to release tax returns

Source: The Hill




BY REID WILSON - 10/16/17 06:57 AM EDT

California Gov. Jerry Brown (D) late Sunday vetoed legislation that would have required presidential candidates to make their tax returns public in order to qualify for the state ballot.

The bill passed the Democratic-dominated legislature after President Trump broke longstanding precedent by refusing to make public his tax returns during the 2016 campaign.

But Brown said the measure represented a possible slippery slope that could force candidates to release other private information, like health records, school records -- and even a birth certificate. "While I recognize the political attractiveness -- even the merits -- of getting President Trump's tax returns, I worry about the political perils of individual states seeking to regulate presidential elections in this manner," Brown wrote in a veto message. "Will these requirements vary depending on which political party is in power?"

"I hesitate to start down a road that well might lead to an ever escalating set of differing state requirements for presidential candidates," Brown said.




Read more: http://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/355583-calif-governor-blocks-plan-to-force-trump-to-release-tax-returns

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Calif. governor blocks plan to force Trump to release tax returns (Original Post) DonViejo Oct 2017 OP
i am disappointed in this... health records etc don't show... samnsara Oct 2017 #1
Trumps tax returns won't show who he owes, it'll show he doesn't make what he SAYS he makes 7962 Oct 2017 #4
Yes good point FakeNoose Oct 2017 #17
When is his first official exam as president? Don't they always release those? 7962 Oct 2017 #22
I don't know, but every opther President has made it public FakeNoose Oct 2017 #24
Governor Brown makes some good points on this issue PJMcK Oct 2017 #2
That's why we are Democrats. We have standards. Lochloosa Oct 2017 #5
+1 (nt) question everything Oct 2017 #19
Brown is right. More important, it needs to be done at federal level still_one Oct 2017 #3
Yes +1 FakeNoose Oct 2017 #18
You're right still_one Oct 2017 #23
I hate it when Jerry is so reasonable like that . . . MrModerate Oct 2017 #6
WTF?!?! Not buying the "slippery slope" argument. Requiring politicians to disclose tax returns... InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2017 #7
Why not release ... left-of-center2012 Oct 2017 #8
My tolerance is exhausted... GeorgeGist Oct 2017 #9
Why are our "representatives" so damned polite? lagomorph777 Oct 2017 #13
I'm with you. I've had enough of this shit. smirkymonkey Oct 2017 #16
Brown didn't release his own returns More_Cowbell Oct 2017 #10
Is it traditional for governors to release their returns? TexasBushwhacker Oct 2017 #21
Fuck Brown all those records should be released if you want to run for president gopiscrap Oct 2017 #11
I am disappointed in this veto Gothmog Oct 2017 #12
This is some BS. We should hold all candidates accountable. YOHABLO Oct 2017 #14
Protect the rich ... Wernothelpless Oct 2017 #15
I hope the Ca Legislature overturns Brown's veto stuffmatters Oct 2017 #20

samnsara

(17,604 posts)
1. i am disappointed in this... health records etc don't show...
Mon Oct 16, 2017, 08:06 AM
Oct 2017

...possible signs of indebtedness to the enemy.....

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
4. Trumps tax returns won't show who he owes, it'll show he doesn't make what he SAYS he makes
Mon Oct 16, 2017, 08:11 AM
Oct 2017

thats more important to him because his base thinks he's SO successful.
Your returns will show gains, losses and expenses, but not who to whom those debts are owed.

FakeNoose

(32,579 posts)
17. Yes good point
Mon Oct 16, 2017, 02:27 PM
Oct 2017

...but we still should have seen his tax returns before the election. The fact that he won't show them tells us that he's got something to hide. He's got PLENTY of somethings to hide.

Also: we never saw Trump's doctor's report either.

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
22. When is his first official exam as president? Don't they always release those?
Mon Oct 16, 2017, 02:59 PM
Oct 2017

I hadn't thought about the medical exam.

FakeNoose

(32,579 posts)
24. I don't know, but every opther President has made it public
Mon Oct 16, 2017, 09:01 PM
Oct 2017

Usually before the election, or else immediately after.
Cheeto is the only one who refused.

Makes you wonder what he's hiding?

PJMcK

(21,995 posts)
2. Governor Brown makes some good points on this issue
Mon Oct 16, 2017, 08:07 AM
Oct 2017

However, he is making his veto decision based on his ethical standards. If a Republican were in his position, don't think for a minute that they would be as intellectually considerate.

 

MrModerate

(9,753 posts)
6. I hate it when Jerry is so reasonable like that . . .
Mon Oct 16, 2017, 08:24 AM
Oct 2017

But his point is well taken.

I, too, said hell yeah! when the law was passed, but I've changed my mind.

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,121 posts)
7. WTF?!?! Not buying the "slippery slope" argument. Requiring politicians to disclose tax returns...
Mon Oct 16, 2017, 08:29 AM
Oct 2017

is a tradition we THE VOTERS expect!!! Do it dammit!!

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
13. Why are our "representatives" so damned polite?
Mon Oct 16, 2017, 12:15 PM
Oct 2017

This is f-ing war. The ruling party is sponsoring a Russian takeover, and all our side will do is say "Oh, dear, maybe that possibly gotes outside 'norms'."

The Reputin Party needs to be annihilated. Let their racist pig followers rebuild a racist pig party from scratch. If we lose the Republic, the racist pigs will lose too; they are just to blinded to see it.

Wernothelpless

(410 posts)
15. Protect the rich ...
Mon Oct 16, 2017, 01:32 PM
Oct 2017

Last edited Mon Oct 16, 2017, 02:11 PM - Edit history (1)

No matter who looses the rich get protected, Wall Street soars, and bankers don't get prosecuted ... all very well thought out and reasoned ...

stuffmatters

(2,574 posts)
20. I hope the Ca Legislature overturns Brown's veto
Mon Oct 16, 2017, 02:40 PM
Oct 2017

Voters have an absolute right to know the financial interests and obligations of any candidate asking to represent their interests.. Especially in this current ascending oligarchy created by Citizens United.

I liked John Oliver & Colbert's takes on the (most often knee jerked by Republicans) "slippery slope" argument a few weeks ago. Something to the effect that no, one law does not open any floodgates.
Slippery slope arguments tend to be legal dramatics ("where WILL it stop?!!!) vs reality based. IT stops withthe requirement that each law needs legislative passage and then also judicial validation if it is constitutionally challenged.

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