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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 08:02 AM Oct 2017

Treasury secretary: Pass a tax bill or markets will tank

Source: Politico




In the first episode of the POLITICO Money podcast, Steven Mnuchin offered an 'absolute guarantee' that a tax overhaul would be signed into law by the end of the year.

By BEN WHITE 10/18/2017 05:04 AM EDT

Steven Mnuchin has a stern warning for Congress: You could blow up the stock market if you fail to cut taxes.

The Treasury secretary, in the first episode of the “POLITICO Money” podcast, said Wall Street’s big run-up following the election of President Donald Trump is largely based on expectations of Congress passing a major tax-relief bill, and failure to do so could have significant consequences. The Dow is now up about 25 percent since the election, a fact Trump tweets about frequently.

“There is no question that the rally in the stock market has baked into it reasonably high expectations of us getting tax cuts and tax reform done,” Mnuchin said in the interview. “To the extent we get the tax deal done, the stock market will go up higher. But there’s no question in my mind that if we don’t get it done you’re going to see a reversal of a significant amount of these gains.”

If that sounds like a threat to Republicans — and perhaps some Democrats — to pass a tax bill, that’s because it is. In fact, some analysts on Wall Street say that if a tax overhaul falters, a big correction on Wall Street could help push the legislative process back on track.



Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2017/10/18/mnuchin-tax-bill-markets-tank-243890

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greymattermom

(5,754 posts)
1. If the tax cut fails
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 08:07 AM
Oct 2017

the money folks will have no return on their purchases of congress critters. What then?

Freethinker65

(10,009 posts)
3. Pass the proposed tax cut and the markets will tank also
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 08:15 AM
Oct 2017

The market is due for a correction. The market is global and prefers stability. Although Trump is unstable, his rhetoric, flame throwing, and name calling, have changed little the market cares about as of yet.

 

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
4. Translation: "The Koch, Mercers, and Russians want the loot we promised for being 'elected'." (Same
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 08:17 AM
Oct 2017

thought as Post #1.)

 

MrModerate

(9,753 posts)
5. According to the guys who advise me . . .
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 08:19 AM
Oct 2017

The market has baked in an expectation that Trump won't get much of anything done, including tax cuts. The recent performance of the market has to do with economic fundamentals, and not the idiot games played by Trump.

IronLionZion

(45,427 posts)
13. and continued low interest rates and fed stimulus
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 10:45 AM
Oct 2017

so I would expect Janet Yellen to raise rates soon and slow things down a bit.

As Trump wrecks other parts of the economy, consumer spending will slow down. One example is where he is making health insurance more expensive so people have less to spend on other things.

William Seger

(10,778 posts)
6. Market up 25%...
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 08:23 AM
Oct 2017

... on pure speculation and we're supposed to believe that rich people don't have enough money to create jobs?

Mnuchin let the cat out of the bag: The main effect of tax cuts for the rich will be further inflation of this bubble while the underlying equity isn't growing nearly as fast, and then a few people will get filthy rich by correctly predicting the inevitable collapse.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
10. Pass a deficit exploding tax cut for the 1%
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 09:25 AM
Oct 2017

And watch the whole damn country go in the shitter just like the state of Kansas did when they were foolish enough to swallow the republican voodoo economic snake oil.

Fuck the wall street hustlers!

Grins

(7,212 posts)
15. So he's admitting the stock market is not based on actual corporate performance or value...?
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 12:46 PM
Oct 2017
“There is no question that the rally in the stock market has baked into it reasonably high expectations of us getting tax cuts and tax reform done.” - Mnuchin, admitting the stock market is not based on actual corporate performance or value.

IronLionZion

(45,427 posts)
19. Yup, he's admitting it is speculation not fundamentals
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 02:50 PM
Oct 2017

which is the opposite of what we need. He's admitting the market is overvalued and a bubble.

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,325 posts)
16. If the market is based on not being able to pay our bills and fund our government then...
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 01:17 PM
Oct 2017

... it needs to tank. Because it will all fall apart in the long run and it won't be pretty.

But who are we kidding. This jag-off will be crying or year from now after they get their tax cut saying we don't have enough money to fund social programs. This jag-off speaks out of both sides of his mouth

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