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mahatmakanejeeves

(57,319 posts)
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 10:45 AM Oct 2017

Lego is selling a 'Women of NASA' set featuring 4 female scientists, engineers, and astronauts

Source: Business Insider

Lego is selling a 'Women of NASA' set featuring 4 female scientists, engineers, and astronauts

Dave Mosher

4h

Lego announced on Wednesday that it would release a "Women of NASA" set.

The $25 kit goes on sale November 1 just in time for the holiday gift-giving season and builds on a laudable trend of selling toys that are more inclusive of women.

"Women of NASA" features four mini figurines of pioneering women from the space agency: the astronauts Sally Ride and Mae Jemison, the astronomer Nancy Grace Roman, and the computer scientist Margaret Hamilton.

Each figurine will also come with a backdrop related to their work at NASA, including the space shuttle Challenger and the Hubble Space Telescope.

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/lego-women-nasa-scientists-astronauts-kit-2017-10



I didn't use Gizmodo as the source, despite its great illustrations, as the title is unnecessarily melodramatic. It suggests that some sort of conspiracy is at work. It's just a matter of licensing the appearance of a living person.

Also, you'll have to cut and past the addresses of the pictures.

Lego Forced to Exclude Hidden Figures Heroine From Cool Women of NASA Set

https://gizmodo.com/lego-forced-to-exclude-hidden-figures-heroine-from-cool-1819629642

Andrew Liszewski
Today 7:00am

https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--PcvUVVRQ--/c_scale,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/ytoeumbeb2n3sp84in8a.jpg

Back in February, Lego revealed it would be turning Maia Weinstocks Women of NASA Lego Ideas submission into an official set, and this morning we have our first look at the production versions of the tiny dioramas and minifigures that will be available starting on November 1 for $25. You may notice one rather major heroine is missing.

https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--fwI6rsSY--/c_scale,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/ub7y10fjphjk7ocprsyd.jpg

Nancy G. Roman, Margaret Hamilton, Sally Ride, and Mae Jemison.

The notable women in the set include Margaret Hamilton, a computer scientist who developed the flight software that powered the Apollo moon missions, Sally Ride, the first American woman in space who rode the space shuttle in 1983, Nancy G. Roman, an astronomer whose planning helped make the Hubble Space Telescope a reality, and Mae Jemison, who in 1992 became the first African-American woman in space.

Maia Weinstocks original Lego Ideas submission also included Katherine Johnson, a NASA mathematician who calculated trajectories for the Mercury and Apollo programs, and who was recently featured in the film, Hidden Figures. But Johnson unfortunately isnt included in Legos final version of this set. A company representative told Gizmodo, In order for us to move forward with a partner we need to obtain approval from all key people, which was not possible in this case. We naturally fully respect this decision.

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A new LEGO set honors the women of NASAand it looks pretty awesome

https://arstechnica.com/science/2017/10/a-new-lego-set-honors-the-women-of-nasa-and-it-looks-pretty-awesome/

"The set clearly touched and inspired many."

ERIC BERGER - 10/18/2017, 9:17 AM
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Lego is selling a 'Women of NASA' set featuring 4 female scientists, engineers, and astronauts (Original Post) mahatmakanejeeves Oct 2017 OP
Great job Lego NewJeffCT Oct 2017 #1
Note that they also had issued a women research scientists set in the past... PoliticAverse Oct 2017 #2
I think this is awesome. hamsterjill Oct 2017 #3
I'm sorry I'm having a bad reaction to this FakeNoose Oct 2017 #4
In other words, building stuff is for guys? longship Oct 2017 #6
Sorry that's not what I said, nor what I meant FakeNoose Oct 2017 #10
I will stand by my post. longship Oct 2017 #11
I understand your point. hamsterjill Oct 2017 #12
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2017 #24
I've worked retail for most of my life. I can see parents buying this set for their sons. rogue emissary Oct 2017 #9
Too little, too late? CrispyQ Oct 2017 #14
wrong. my first thought was that i would buy it for my grandson. mopinko Oct 2017 #17
You certainly make many unsupported allegations. LanternWaste Oct 2017 #18
Hmmm... did you see this? lunamagica Oct 2017 #19
Well, I think girls should play more with Legos, so this helps William Seger Oct 2017 #21
Not sure I see the problem. Lego is doing it to encourage folks to buy girls these toys xor Oct 2017 #22
I found one article saying Katherine Johnson herself declined truthisfreedom Oct 2017 #5
Some people prefer their privacy. Just a guess on my part. mahatmakanejeeves Oct 2017 #7
Lego's official comment: PoliticAverse Oct 2017 #16
I'll have to get one for my granddaughter. She loves logos and her mother notdarkyet Oct 2017 #8
Sorry, spelling, legos. notdarkyet Oct 2017 #13
This makes me smile Gothmog Oct 2017 #15
This is wonderful! lunamagica Oct 2017 #20
Nice gesture, but too expensive. mahannah Oct 2017 #23

hamsterjill

(15,220 posts)
3. I think this is awesome.
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 10:50 AM
Oct 2017

Bravo! Finally!

But, I'll admit there is a part of me who, as a child of the sixties, wonders why I should still have to think this is awesome in 2017.

FakeNoose

(32,596 posts)
4. I'm sorry I'm having a bad reaction to this
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 11:08 AM
Oct 2017

It's very calculated, as a gesture to the Moms and Grandmothers who want to encourage their daughters/granddaughters.

But you know what? Exactly no one will buy this toy for their sons.
And it's mostly boys who get the Lego sets, not girls.
Thanks Lego, but this is too little, too late.

longship

(40,416 posts)
6. In other words, building stuff is for guys?
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 11:17 AM
Oct 2017

I think that that is the exactly wrong take on this.

Just my opinion.

However, one doesn't have to take my word for it, just ask Katherine Johnson, or John Glenn, or the Apollo 13 astronauts.

Katherine Johnson.


I think sexism is disgusting.

FakeNoose

(32,596 posts)
10. Sorry that's not what I said, nor what I meant
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 11:26 AM
Oct 2017

If Lego wants to promote gender equality, they should have scientists, astronauts and engineers that are both genders equally mixed. And only one set that can be purchased for both boys and girls. Otherwise the parents of boys will buy the all-boy sets, while the parents of girls will buy the all-girl sets.

By keeping the genders separate, don't you think this will totally defeat the intention? I do!

Also the groups of characters need to be racially mixed as well. Otherwise white people will buy the all-white sets.


longship

(40,416 posts)
11. I will stand by my post.
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 11:32 AM
Oct 2017

I think males have been privileged for far too long in STEM fields. I know about this because my education is in physics.

Like there shouldn't be women Lego sets because it somehow disadvantages men? That's utter MRA rubbish.

hamsterjill

(15,220 posts)
12. I understand your point.
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 11:40 AM
Oct 2017

Just wanted to express that. I'm not sure I'm following the point of the other poster who has replied to your comment.

Response to FakeNoose (Reply #10)

rogue emissary

(3,147 posts)
9. I've worked retail for most of my life. I can see parents buying this set for their sons.
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 11:25 AM
Oct 2017

Hell, I backed this kit on the Lego Idea site cause I love space and science stuff.

There were a lot of parents buying Lego kits that were designed for girls for their boys and vice verse. When a kid wanted the set that supposedly wasn't designed for them. They'd have an outburst to get their parent to buy the kit they wanted.

CrispyQ

(36,424 posts)
14. Too little, too late?
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 11:48 AM
Oct 2017

I'm glad you're not on the forefront of the women's movement! This is how things change.

I love that they included a gray-haired woman, says this senior.

mopinko

(70,023 posts)
17. wrong. my first thought was that i would buy it for my grandson.
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 12:41 PM
Oct 2017

it is sorta too little too late, but they have been trying figure this out for a long time. it has been many years since the introduced "pink sets" to try to reach out to girls. a decade, at least. i dont remember. maybe 2.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
18. You certainly make many unsupported allegations.
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 12:46 PM
Oct 2017

You certainly make many unsupported allegations, regardless of any reactions you may or may not allege.

William Seger

(10,775 posts)
21. Well, I think girls should play more with Legos, so this helps
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 01:26 PM
Oct 2017

... and boys should see more women astronauts and scientists, now that you mention it.

xor

(1,204 posts)
22. Not sure I see the problem. Lego is doing it to encourage folks to buy girls these toys
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 03:14 PM
Oct 2017

and to get them into building stuff. Lego folks may have some social message too, but I suspect the main goal is to tap into the girl power market. Which I don't see why that's a problem. It will likely get some girls who may not have been given such toys or asked for such toys into getting into the whole building/engineering type stuff. It helps get past the lingering "girls don't engineer/build" mindset that still seems to exist in some circles.

While most of us here on DU may not view toys and gender roles in that way, the fact remains that there is a good portion of the population that hasn't moved away from such rigid thinking. This seems like it might be a win-win for Lego and for girls who otherwise may have been left out before.

truthisfreedom

(23,140 posts)
5. I found one article saying Katherine Johnson herself declined
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 11:10 AM
Oct 2017

To participate. It would be interesting to know why.

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
16. Lego's official comment:
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 12:23 PM
Oct 2017

(From: https://gizmodo.com/lego-forced-to-exclude-hidden-figures-heroine-from-cool-1819629642 )

Maia Weinstock’s original Lego Ideas submission also included Katherine Johnson, a NASA mathematician who calculated trajectories for the Mercury and Apollo programs, and who was recently featured in the film, Hidden Figures. But Johnson unfortunately isn’t included in Lego’s final version of this set. A company representative told Gizmodo, “In order for us to move forward with a partner we need to obtain approval from all key people, which was not possible in this case. We naturally fully respect this decision.”


notdarkyet

(2,226 posts)
8. I'll have to get one for my granddaughter. She loves logos and her mother
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 11:23 AM
Oct 2017

Has been a NASA scientist for twenty years and just got back from Italy where she is chief engineer working in partnership with Italian scientists on a X-ray telescope. She has to go back two More times before Christmas and it will be launched at cape Canaveral when done. It's not so bad being a woman scientist. They stay employed.

lunamagica

(9,967 posts)
20. This is wonderful!
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 01:11 PM
Oct 2017

Great example for girls...well, all children. So far removed from space women featured on shows like Lost In Space, where the women were completely useless, and the mother was there just to cook and say "be careful".

It went so far that if the two grown men had to leave the ship, ten, twelve year-old Will would be in charge. Even as a very little girl I found that cringe-worthy and humiliating.

Sorry for going off-topic, but I recently saw an episode on LIS, and...ugh

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