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Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
Thu Oct 19, 2017, 01:45 AM Oct 2017

Triple Storm Dubbed The Big Dark To Slam Pacific Northwest

Source: NY POST

By Yaron Steinbuch October 18, 2017 | 3:44pm

A triple weather whammy dubbed “The Big Dark” is hitting the Pacific Northwest.

A dramatic satellite image shows a series of rain and wind storms rolling across the ocean from China to the Seattle region and British Columbia

The first of three fronts brought some light rain and gusty winds on Tuesday – but a more intense system was expected to hit Wednesday through Thursday morning.

Heavy rains and wind gusts of up to 50 mph were forecast for the coast and north of Everett in Washington state, said Jay Albrecht, a meteorologist with the National Weather Service in Seattle.

Read more: http://nypost.com/2017/10/18/triple-storm-dubbed-the-big-dark-to-slam-pacific-northwest/



5,000-mile Long 'River In The Sky' To Deliver Heavy Rain, Feet Of Snow To Northwest

Doyle Rice, USA TODAY Published 4:14 p.m. ET Oct. 18, 2017 | Updated 5:26 p.m. ET Oct. 18, 2017


An atmospheric river is poised to funnel gigantic amounts of rain and snow to the Northwest over the next few days.

As much as 15 inches of rain is forecast in the mountains along with several inches in coastal areas, including Portland and Seattle. It could be Seattle's wettest weather since February, the National Weather Service said.

There is also a risk of flash flooding in western Washington and northwestern Oregon on Thursday as a result of the heavy rainfall, the weather service warned.

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https://www.usatoday.com/story/weather/2017/10/18/5-000-mile-long-river-sky-deliver-heavy-rain-feet-snow-northwest/776060001/
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Triple Storm Dubbed The Big Dark To Slam Pacific Northwest (Original Post) Purveyor Oct 2017 OP
Sounds similar to what we used to get in So Cal from the south (El Nino). C Moon Oct 2017 #1
I was on the Bainbridge ferry today pfitz59 Oct 2017 #2
Seems like normal October weather around here ribrepin Oct 2017 #3
i absolutely can see bdtrppr6 Oct 2017 #4
Here's a composite satellite picture of "the river in the sky." Hortensis Oct 2017 #5
Summer was unusually hot and dry, that was a change. This type of Oct storm is typical, suffragette Oct 2017 #7
That's what I figured. VERY dramatic name, but when it Hortensis Oct 2017 #9
I typed out a response last night, but my internet went down just as I hit post. suffragette Oct 2017 #13
Hate that! Bet you do. :) Sounds lovely. The Santa Anas can Hortensis Oct 2017 #14
I lived in So Cal for a bit. Enjoyed so much about it, but not the heat. You give a vibrant descript suffragette Oct 2017 #15
Oh, yes, June gloom, I loved that too. I once had an office Hortensis Oct 2017 #19
aka the pineapple express when it routes over hawaii to SF and so cal as it does now n then nt msongs Oct 2017 #6
More realistic statements from NWS nitpicker Oct 2017 #8
...and republicans PERSISTED in their climate change lies Achilleaze Oct 2017 #10
Yes, yesterday afternoon/evening here was big, dark, and slamming. Getting ready Mrs. Overall Oct 2017 #11
October in the Pacific Northwest is typically a transition month to wet and stormy. PearliePoo2 Oct 2017 #12
The pearl-clutchers are freaking out. Aristus Oct 2017 #16
Oh you're a 'trooper", indeed. eom Purveyor Oct 2017 #17
For us, it's 'liquid sunshine.' Aristus Oct 2017 #18

C Moon

(12,212 posts)
1. Sounds similar to what we used to get in So Cal from the south (El Nino).
Thu Oct 19, 2017, 01:48 AM
Oct 2017

One after another. But wind didn't play much, from what I recall.

 

bdtrppr6

(796 posts)
4. i absolutely can see
Thu Oct 19, 2017, 02:42 AM
Oct 2017

and love a "5000 mile long river in the sky".

if the end of the world is coming, just let it be breath taking.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
5. Here's a composite satellite picture of "the river in the sky."
Thu Oct 19, 2017, 03:16 AM
Oct 2017


Interesting phenomenon, but its effects have not seemed to make news in the NW so far. I've read, though, that overall the PNW has had the most extreme weather changes in the nation this year, compared to normal for this region. Hope people are paying attention.

Puerto Rico made me realize that almost any of us might unexpectedly find ourselves without food or water, effectively marooned on an island in a sea of other people also suddenly in potentially serious danger.

One reason the gulf coast likely got particularly good hurricane relief may be that the Kochs and their alliance are interested in getting their buddy Greg Abbott, governor of Texas, elected president in 2020. Here in rural Georgia my family are not counting on that degree of commitment to our wellbeing, especially as continued disasters collide with plans for giant tax cuts.

suffragette

(12,232 posts)
7. Summer was unusually hot and dry, that was a change. This type of Oct storm is typical,
Thu Oct 19, 2017, 04:20 AM
Oct 2017

though, blustery and plenty of rain. Naming one of these storms is new.

We generally get this type of rain and wind this time of year and some power outages because most of the trees still have leaves and the leaves and some branches get knocked down. Usually a few trees, too. Also some city flooding, since rain gutters get clogged by the wet leaf mush.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
9. That's what I figured. VERY dramatic name, but when it
Thu Oct 19, 2017, 05:06 AM
Oct 2017

alarmed me into googling this, I found it was being talked up more by a few east coast papers a lot more than your local ones. And knew what to think.

I've read that the PNW is warming almost twice as fast as the global average, though. I love the blessedly cool and moist climate up there (my family's from there). It'll presumably never become as normally hot up there as here in the south, but it's occurred that the relatively undramatic events (even the fires are nothing to California's) may be lulling people into underestimating their cumulative effects until those do become unpleasantly dramatic. A couple of friends in that area mostly just commiserate with us about our hurricanes with the same kind of smugness I'd love to be up there sharing.

suffragette

(12,232 posts)
13. I typed out a response last night, but my internet went down just as I hit post.
Thu Oct 19, 2017, 03:31 PM
Oct 2017

Blame it on the wind

It looks like a local NWS guy is referring to the switch from long summer days to very short autumn and winter ones. Combine that with overcast days from the usual storms and it is accurate. This seasonal shift does feel dramatic, like a curtain pulled over the sky.

But then some reporters picked up on that name and used it to describe a storm pattern. I think you're right that they were east coasters, who are more used to storms having names and did not realize this is our typical Oct pattern.

I welcome the return of our clouds, wind and rain. I find it quite invigorating.

What was really odd about the fires, dryness and heat this summer was the stagnant smoke haze that stayed around for so long. There are usually some fires in summer and a hot east wind that blows heat over the mountains to the west (our Chinook wind is generally much milder than Santa Ana winds, though). But that combo doesn't usually lead to smoky haze for days. Something shifted, for sure.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
14. Hate that! Bet you do. :) Sounds lovely. The Santa Anas can
Thu Oct 19, 2017, 04:13 PM
Oct 2017

can be double-edged in SoCal, of course.

For our first several years here in the southeast, on the first day of September, or very close to but a few times right on that very day, the hot summer weather changed to cool fall, a few weeks after would be the first light frost, and some weeks later hard frost would kill off the autumn garden.

Great fun for us coming from SoCal. There summer was when nature tried to kill you, autumn was like a nice summer, and then the sun would arc lower and cooler, the growing season would sorta stop in late November, though stuff brought to bloom continued through winter, so that was our winter. Then new growth would start up again in late January, signaling spring. New Year's Day was usually my rose trimming day, sacrificing probably hundreds of flowers and buds, while the Goodyear blimp hung over the Rose Bowl off in the distance.

Now our friends say it's very different and very trying. More have gotten rid of their lawns, and that's a good thing.

Here in the South, weather's far more erratic, but climate change seems to be wiping out more and more of spring and fall, running summer and winter highs and lows practically into each other. More like California in that respect but without the blooming winter.

Oh, well. May the PNW always stay lusciously cool and green, leaves so delicate that the sun can shine right through them, and the sun so gentle that a single poppy can bloom for a week. At least that's how I remember it.

suffragette

(12,232 posts)
15. I lived in So Cal for a bit. Enjoyed so much about it, but not the heat. You give a vibrant descript
Thu Oct 19, 2017, 06:59 PM
Oct 2017

Of summers there. They could be brutal.

My favorite month there was June, with reliable marine cover in the morning and gentle sun in the afternoon. They called it June gloom there, but I loved it.

Seasons there were subtle. Like you, I focused on what bloomed or shifted. I do miss the graceful lavender jacarandas and the flutter of yellow fan leaves drifting down from the ginkgo bilobas.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
19. Oh, yes, June gloom, I loved that too. I once had an office
Fri Oct 20, 2017, 06:51 AM
Oct 2017

in Pasadena with a window overlooking a green area of nothing but Jacarandas and lawn, so beautifully simple and lovely at all seasons. Aside from my winter garden and no flies, mosquitoes or need for window screens, though, what I miss most often is having a Trader Joe's 5 blocks away, on the route between the freeway off-ramp and our home.

Well, looks like Seattle survived the Big Dark. Wonder if Steven King ever considered using that.

nitpicker

(7,153 posts)
8. More realistic statements from NWS
Thu Oct 19, 2017, 04:51 AM
Oct 2017

NWS Seattle indicates that about an inch of rain has fallen, with about two more inches expected through Friday.

The forecasters are more concerned about current river flooding and burn scar rain than anything else.

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
10. ...and republicans PERSISTED in their climate change lies
Thu Oct 19, 2017, 07:40 AM
Oct 2017

One thing we can always depend upon, alas, is republican lies about whatever...sad.

PearliePoo2

(7,768 posts)
12. October in the Pacific Northwest is typically a transition month to wet and stormy.
Thu Oct 19, 2017, 10:38 AM
Oct 2017

You can practically set your watch to it!
Southeast winds and often storms with a lot of precipitation of tropical origin. (Pineapple Express)
Of course, the MOTHER of all storms for the PNW, one for the history books, was The Columbus Day Storm on October 12th, 1962.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbus_Day_Storm_of_1962

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