Kelly Speaks About Sons Death and Criticizes Congresswoman Wilson

[mobeau69]

Source: The New York Times

Kelly called Wilson’s behavior “selfish” and indicated she had eroded the standards of decency in America.


Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/19/us/politics/john-kelly-son-trump.html

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Hey Kelly, your boss, the dotard, is the one who's "eroded the standards of decency in America."

[Irish_Dem]

1. Wow, he is no better than the orange squirrel he works for. nt

[sandensea]

34. Absolutely. John Kelly is a collaborationist along the lines of France's Petain or Norway's Quisling

Otherwise honorable military officers who, for largely self-serving reasons, opted to speak for and lend their efforts to criminal regimes.

[Irish_Dem]

35. I was thinking of Hitler's top generals and staff.

Some were decent men who got caught up in evil and then could not turn back.

But I am not sure Kelly is a decent man, his words say other wise.

[sandensea]

36. Good point. He lied - but when caught just keeps doubling down.

When you're in a hole, it's best to stop digging - especially working for a treacherous, disloyal lout like Cheeto.

[Grins]

2. ...it's what he didn't say.....

Gen. John F. Kelly, USMC Ret'd, White House chief of staff, not saying a fucking word about what his boss said to a soldier's widow and her orphaned children.

[Ilsa]

3. Criticized her, a family friend, sitting in the same

vehicle, for listening while he listened to trump on speakerphone in the Oval Office. Shame on Kelly. FAIL. The only reason I haven't criticized him on media is because he is a gold star parent.

[Cattledog]

12. +1000

[procon]

4. Does that criticism also apply to Sgt. La David Johnson's, mother?

Sgt. La David T. Johnson’s mother, Cowanda Jones-Johnson, told The Washington Post that she was present during the call from the White House on Tuesday to Johnson’s widow, Myeshia Johnson. She also stood by an account of the call from Rep. Frederica S. Wilson (D-Fla.) that Trump told Myeshia Johnson that her husband “must have known what he signed up for.”

“President Trump did disrespect my son and my daughter and also me and my husband,” Jones-Johnson said.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2017/10/18/totally-fabricated-trump-disputes-congresswomans-depiction-of-his-exchange-with-soldiers-widow/?utm_term=.9109b8a6d857

[chelsea0011]

19. I guess so. Kelly just crapped on a Gold Star Family for using speakerphone.

[montanacowboy]

5. Time to start giving this asshole

any benefit of the doubt
he is a big a loser as his idiot boss
he stays because he loves it and supports the idiot in chief
fuck him and his fucking boxx
they are both a joke

[Ilsa]

9. Agreed. He needs to be driven out with trump. nt

[Ilsa]

6. Kelly gave trump shitty advice.

That advice might work for a father, but not for a mom or wife. They need comfort, not to hear, "he knew what he was getting into."
But that's just my opinion.

[Heron5]

20. Exactly

It’s a phrase to deliver to a father who also served in the military, but no way appropriate to say to a widow. Sorry, Kelly, but the audience matters, and I am certain you already knew that when you stepped to the podium in this failed attempt to provide cover for your empathy-deficient boss.

[stollen]

27. It's always been predicted that Kelly was not suitable for that position

He would have voted for Trump, and perhaps now he feels he can rescue him. He's only dividing the wedge deeper.

[lancelyons]

7. I like kelly, I think but he was wrong to criticize the congress woman for listening to the call

Kelly was wrong to criticize the congress woman for listening to the call when they where listening as well.

She was in the car with the Johnson family and the president was on the speaker phone.

Its like Kelly says we (Trump admin) can listen in on the call but the congresswoman who is a family friend was wrong for listening to the call.

Thats GARBAGE for kelly to say that.

Also the statement of he know what he was getting into is wrong. Kelly should not act like that is normal.

[stollen]

28. Is it as Rachel said last night? Part of the diversion?

and now Kelly is a part of that?

Bottom line is, we want to know what happened in that KIA.

[extvbroadcaster]

8. Carrying Trump's water

I watched it, and even though you realized the pain Kelly felt about his son that was no excuse to "normalize" Trump's "I don't give a shit" behavior toward a widow in her time of suffering. The whole thing makes me mad. Maybe Kelly is being a patriot, keeping the Orange shit bag from blowing up the world. I hope so. But it was uncomfortable to watch, and sad to see.

[matt819]

10. Well, in case anyone was wondering about Kelly

He is no less a human turd and opportunist than the buffoon-in-chief. What a capstone to a life in government service.

And you know full well that his boss will use these comments as more political fodder for more attacks. You associate yourself with evil, you are evil. He could have been thought a wise man if only he'd kept his mouth shut. But no. . . these evil fucks have to double down on every fucking thing.

Let this be a lesson to any who thought, as I sometimes did, that Kelly was the only thing between the b-i-c and nuclear war. He'll be right there with the b-i-c, licking his ass while he enters the codes.

[LenaBaby61]

22. "He is no less a human turd and opportunist than the buffoon-in-chief."

THIS.

[YOHABLO]

11. That fucker Kelly is backing him up. YOU DON'T SAY THAT TO A SOLDIER'S WIDOW.

There are a lot of things one can say, but saying "he knew what he was getting into" is not one of them. Trump has no sense of appropriateness. Kelly should just keep his mouth shut. These young men and women who join the military are basically there to protect the 1%. More war, more profits.

[Ilsa]

16. Shitty advice. You don't say that to a young pregnant widow.

You can talk like that years down the road, but not when it is so fresh.

And the Congresswoman was there as the family's friend. The widow ooted to let her family listen.

I think it does matter to hear from the president, not just friends. It's important to know that the head of the nation for whom the sacrifice was made knows about it.

I think kelly's attitude is driven partly because his son's death was already well-known among the higher-ups.

[Mediumsizedhand]

13. I knew Kelly was a player and no hope in him. Lacking the same integrity as the rest.

[wolfie001]

14. Gutless coward working for a heartless bastard!!!! nt

[trueblue2007]

15. Kelly "Criticizes Congresswoman Wilson" for LISTENING IN ??? HE IS A LIAR !!!!!

Mrs. Johnson invited EVERY PERSON IN THAT VEHICLE TO LISTEN. The people did not LISTEN IN.


Kelly is a liar and i have no respect for him. NONE, he is taking Trump's side totally. He is a horrible man.

[Rebl2]

17. Kelly is now

as disgusting as the orange one. In what world is it okay, Mr. Trump, to say what you said to this young widow, and how dare he deny that he said it. She has no reason to make all this up.

[keithbvadu2]

18. Wanted to keep his son's death personal to himself... until he could make it political.

Wanted to keep his son's death personal to himself... until he could make it political.

[More_Cowbell]

21. Kelly told Trump that Obama didn't call when Kelly's son died

There's no way he thought Trump wouldn't use that against Obama.

[atreides1]

25. Kelly knew before Obama was told

Kelly probably knew before the President did that his son had been killed in combat!

Remember, Kelly was still on active duty and had a command...the moment it was confirmed by the Pentagon, Kelly knew!

[Cryptoad]

23. O yellar the one who,,,

who desecrated the Gold Star Family ,,,,,,,,, geeez

[still_one]

24. Kelley is stunned. What you say to a widow whose husband died in service to the country that d that

you want to express your sympathy and gratitude for the sacrifice her son made

This isn't fucking rocket science, and that these so-called adults do not even know what to say to a grieving widow only demonstrates just how much trouble the country is in

[MFM008]

26. he is a louse

he sold his soul and his dead sons to the care and feeding of the obscenity known as maggot.

[stuffmatters]

29. The longer Trump Kelley can fan this disgraceful fire, the less media attn to Niger

I think Kelly has just shown everybody that he is and has always been totally at Trump's service.

[Bengus81]

30. Now Kelly is falling on his sword for Trump this afternoon..........

Seriously Kelly?!?!?

[Solly Mack]

31. No surprise. Been around too many Generals to ever think them anything but

what they are - political animals.

[turbinetree]

32. Now that you have answered the questions of your sexual predator -n-chief

I have a fucking question......................why was he on a fucking golf course playing golf with a retired person from the JAG office, plotting mind you to fuck people out of heath care to report that to his /your party caucus, because after all the asshole that he was playing golf with, also has a lack of empathy.

Now that you have explained how the body is packed in ice, and repacked in ice from Germany and flown to Dover with the flag of this country draped over the metal casket, to then be embalmed and to have there uniforms put on them and all of there medals, prior to being buried, your fucking sexual predator -n-chief, was playing fucking golf, playing fucking golf, and not even asking for any fucking morning briefings or situational reports out in the field------------------not one, that we know of.

But we know he was fucking on his play toy, that fucking phone and tweeting is fucking BS, about players from the NFL, or some other diversion of this asshole not being a man to understand his responsibilities to the fallen..............because he is a traitor.

The chain of command could have been a company commander, the general in charge and the guy heading the whole shebang, could have sent a letter, made a phone call.

Or to imagine that a solider would be standing outside the home of the fallen from the graves registration department to wait for the light to come on in the morning at the house, to tell these family members what happened, this fucking did not happen.

It took 12 days, let me repeat this twelve days to have anything done, or said--------------------you sir, knew better, until now

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[TomCADem]

33. Selling Out His Dead Son. What a F*&kin Embarassment

If he had an issue, perhaps he should have raised it earlier. Heck, he sat at the same table as Michelle Obama at a dinner honoring the sacrifices of soldiers who died in the service of their country. Instead, Kelly happily lets Trump use his dead's son memory to defend Trump's crass attacks on his predecessors.

Does Kelly have any decency?