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Judi Lynn

(160,515 posts)
Fri Oct 20, 2017, 10:16 PM Oct 2017

Alabama will give names of crossover voters to prosecutors

Source: Associated Press


Kim Chandler, Associated Press
 Updated 7:24 pm, Friday, October 20, 2017

MONTGOMERY, Ala. (AP) — The names of Alabama voters who crossed party lines to vote in last month's Republican Senate runoff will be given to prosecutors, the state's election chief said Friday.

Secretary of State John Merrill said his office has identified 674 people who voted in the Democratic primary and later voted in the GOP runoff in violation of the state's new crossover voting ban. Merrill said he plans to send the names to the attorney general and district attorneys after local election officials check the list for errors.

The move signals a hardline approach to the new state law — used for the first time in the U.S. Senate runoff — that adds fraudulent crossover voting to the list of other felony voting crimes, such as voting twice. Merrill said it was the "right thing" to report violations but noted that it is prosecutors' decision on whether to pursue charges.
 
The move drew criticism from those who said voters could face prosecution for an honest mistake as the ban came into effect for the first time, but Merrill said it was his responsibility to report possible violations.

Read more: http://www.chron.com/news/crime/article/Alabama-will-give-names-of-cross-over-voters-to-12294792.php

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Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
12. I think such laws are fairly common, and constitutional.
Sat Oct 21, 2017, 08:15 PM
Oct 2017

Obviously, no one could vote in both the Democratic primary and the Republican primary, even if the state has open primaries. The runoff is deemed merely a continuation of the Republican primary.

Years ago, I moved to North Carolina after a Democratic primary but before the runoff. Although I immediately registered to vote, I couldn't vote in the runoff, because I hadn't been registered for the primary and the runoff was a continuation of the primary. For people who were registered and who actually voted, but in the other party's primary, I'm OK with barring them from the runoff. No one should be allowed to cast votes toward picking both major-party candidates.

LeftInTX

(25,220 posts)
3. They weren't told by pollworkers?
Fri Oct 20, 2017, 10:33 PM
Oct 2017

In Texas you can't vote in run-offs if you haven't voted in the primary, however the pollworkers warn you that you can't.

LeftInTX

(25,220 posts)
5. The voter signs when they vote - at least in Texas.
Fri Oct 20, 2017, 10:42 PM
Oct 2017

The clerk has my address and voter ID # on file. She prints out the info, sticks it in a registration book and I sign it.

Angry Dragon

(36,693 posts)
6. I can take a ballot, take it into a booth, look at it, do nothing with it
Fri Oct 20, 2017, 10:50 PM
Oct 2017

and run it through the machine and adds no vote
they could prove I signed in but how do they prove I voted??

LeftInTX

(25,220 posts)
8. The same way that they charge people with voter fraud
Fri Oct 20, 2017, 11:09 PM
Oct 2017

If you vote twice, in the same election you can be charged.

Although it is a clever defense...LOL
"I signed in, but pretended to vote, but I didn't"

JCMach1

(27,555 posts)
13. No proof unless they admit they actually
Sun Oct 22, 2017, 11:11 AM
Oct 2017

Voted for a Republican. They could have been doodling on the ballot.

This is yet another effort to suppress votes.

LeftInTX

(25,220 posts)
15. But when you vote in a specific primary, you request a party ballot.
Sun Oct 22, 2017, 11:28 AM
Oct 2017

If you voted in a Democratic primary, it is public record. If you vote in a Republican primary it is public record. When you vote in a Republican runoff it is public record. Democratic primary is a totally different election than the Republican primary.

At our polls, they ask what party primary ballot you want. It is then recorded manually that you voted in that party's primary.

Sure someone could go to the polls, request a Republican ballot and then not vote....but why?

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
9. What about the Democrats who voted in the Republican primary...
Fri Oct 20, 2017, 11:12 PM
Oct 2017

and then voted in the Republican runoff?

You don't think that 'incumbent' Trump favorite got beat by a 'whacko' without a little help, do you?



Go Doug Jones!

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
11. Enforcing this new law is fine, "innocent mistakes" are NOT okay,
Sat Oct 21, 2017, 11:51 AM
Oct 2017

but FELONY charges when this is the first election the new law has been in effect? A misdeanour fine would be appropriate.

Almost no one looks up and reads regulations in case they've changed, they don't even read them posted on a wall, and these would-be fascists, who see easy victims instead of citizens, know it.

Vinca

(50,255 posts)
14. Crossover voting shouldn't be illegal. You should be able to vote how you want when you want.
Sun Oct 22, 2017, 11:16 AM
Oct 2017

Should be challenged in court.

LeftInTX

(25,220 posts)
16. Unfortunately, it is illegal in Texas.
Sun Oct 22, 2017, 11:31 AM
Oct 2017

It is only illegal if you haven't voted in the runoff party's primary. (We do have open primaries in Texas, so we can crossover for the primary, but not the runoff)

I don't know if Texas' law has been challenged in court. Maybe it should be.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,336 posts)
17. The GOP is not welcoming these newly-reformed, former Democrats into their party?
Sun Oct 22, 2017, 11:59 AM
Oct 2017

Keeping the tent small, I see.

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