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tuvor

(15,663 posts)
Fri Aug 10, 2012, 05:45 PM Aug 2012

CNN suspends Fareed Zakaria for plagiarism

Source: Politico.com

CNN has joined Time Magazine and suspended Fareed Zakaria following his admission of plagiarism.

"We have reviewed Fareed Zakaria’s TIME column, for which he has apologized," CNN said in a written statement. "He wrote a shorter blog post on CNN.com on the same issue which included similar unattributed excerpts. That blog post has been removed and CNN has suspended Fareed Zakaria while this matter is under review."

Time Magazine suspended Zakaria earlier this afternoon after he admitted to plagiarizing an April article about the National Rifle Association by New Yorker staff writer Jill Lepore.

"TIME accepts Fareed's apology, but what he did violates our own standards for our columnists, which is that their work must not only be factual but original; their views must not only be their own but their words as well," Ali Zelenko, Time's SVP of Communications, said in a statement. "As a result, we are suspending Fareed's column for a month, pending further review."

Read more: http://www.politico.com/blogs/media/2012/08/cnn-suspends-fareed-zakaria-for-plagiarism-131695.html

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CNN suspends Fareed Zakaria for plagiarism (Original Post) tuvor Aug 2012 OP
How stupid of him ... cosmicone Aug 2012 #1
Had a co-worker journalist copy and paste my work tabasco Aug 2012 #2
hope he learns his lesson. nt secondwind Aug 2012 #3
The NRA went after him for content. So, this is not a happy ending. McCamy Taylor Aug 2012 #4
It is clear that he plagarized - makes no difference who pointed it out. hack89 Aug 2012 #5
With the NRA, they give you plenty of amunition. You can Author a book about them demosincebirth Aug 2012 #51
As long as you don't plagiarize your book, it's fine. nt hack89 Aug 2012 #56
Really? demosincebirth Aug 2012 #57
I don't like people that plagiarize. It is stealing. nt hack89 Aug 2012 #58
Well said - n/t primavera Aug 2012 #61
Yes, it is. tabasco Aug 2012 #6
NRA much, tabasco???? trayfoot Aug 2012 #7
If he plagiarized, the person who pointed it out doesn't make it untrue. Posteritatis Aug 2012 #22
Exactly karynnj Aug 2012 #52
Nailed it. marble falls Aug 2012 #27
Hows that? n/t tabasco Aug 2012 #39
Nope. Own zero firearms. tabasco Aug 2012 #36
Over the top. He admitted it so the lying part is out. And the "piece of shit" doesn't speak ... marble falls Aug 2012 #26
When you proffer work as your own and it is not, tabasco Aug 2012 #37
And he copped to it without "buts" or excuses. marble falls Aug 2012 #41
So what? tabasco Aug 2012 #45
Is Joe Biden a "piece of shit" and a "proven liar", too? ....... marble falls Aug 2012 #78
it's Weiner Syndrome Scootaloo Aug 2012 #54
Describes my thoughts exactly. marble falls Aug 2012 #63
A bit if unfair hyperbole Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2012 #65
Because no standards are being demanded, Nuclear Scootaloo Aug 2012 #66
You make fair points. Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2012 #68
All he needed do was copy four paragraphs and add a link. It has worked for nearly 2on2u Aug 2012 #77
So because it was about the NRA Equate Aug 2012 #8
You don't think Tobasco at least went overboard? marble falls Aug 2012 #28
He was expressing his opinion of someone caught plagerizing Equate Aug 2012 #29
Extremism in the prosecution of plagiarism is no vice? marble falls Aug 2012 #42
Did the NRA assist the Bush regime in launching a war of aggression? JackRiddler Aug 2012 #10
This media whore's career should have ended after he pimped the invasion of Iraq. JackRiddler Aug 2012 #9
LOL Equate Aug 2012 #11
Well done! n/t zentrum Aug 2012 #15
Bravo! Well said! - n/t coalition_unwilling Aug 2012 #19
I wish I could recommend this 1,000,000 times. Joe Bacon Aug 2012 #21
He was clearly a gutless coward. tabasco Aug 2012 #38
Zakaria is qualified as opposed to most bozos on CNN flamingdem Aug 2012 #12
Qualified by what? His support for the worst crime against humanity of this century so far? JackRiddler Aug 2012 #16
this didn't "happen to him." he was an active participant. magical thyme Aug 2012 #69
You're missing the point. He's considered to be NOT conservative flamingdem Aug 2012 #70
you're missing the point. Plagiarism is not acceptable. magical thyme Aug 2012 #71
It's common to take notes and not always realize what is yours and anothers flamingdem Aug 2012 #72
not if you're a professional writer, especially journalist magical thyme Aug 2012 #73
Probably nothing new for Zakaria brentspeak Aug 2012 #13
Wow, was not aware of this suffragette Aug 2012 #34
GPS is one of my favorite shows, I am disappoint. crimson77 Aug 2012 #60
This is why CITING a reference, no manner how small.... LovingA2andMI Aug 2012 #14
Meh, he is just another Neo-Liberal Globalist. I'm not sympathetic. Odin2005 Aug 2012 #17
As I read through the thread it's amazing how many people openly bash him and davidpdx Aug 2012 #18
Oh, you wrote it on facebook so it must be important, LOL just1voice Aug 2012 #20
The reason I wrote that on Facebook is I happen have "liked" his page and it came up on my feed davidpdx Aug 2012 #24
Like PR is supposed to, your plug for Zakaria evades the point. JackRiddler Aug 2012 #31
It wasn't PR it was a response to another poster davidpdx Aug 2012 #32
PR doesn't have to know it's PR. JackRiddler Aug 2012 #43
He apologized and is taking the punishment get over it davidpdx Aug 2012 #44
Oh really, did he apologize for facilitating a war of aggression? JackRiddler Aug 2012 #46
Post removed Post removed Aug 2012 #50
The subject of the thread is Fareed Zakaria. JackRiddler Aug 2012 #59
CNN and TIME have standards?! Jesus... who knew?! (nt) harmonicon Aug 2012 #23
When I read the two paragraphs, I don't regard this as a big deal. Honeycombe8 Aug 2012 #25
He committed textbook plagiarism obamanut2012 Aug 2012 #30
He apologized. boppers Aug 2012 #40
I think you can drop the second part joeglow3 Aug 2012 #67
I think your assumption is wrong. boppers Aug 2012 #75
My assumption is 100% accurate joeglow3 Aug 2012 #76
DU should start a plagiarism committee to destroy other journalists that do this... nt Comrade_McKenzie Aug 2012 #33
I like Fareed, so I'm disappointed that he resorted to plagiarism to make his point. Beacool Aug 2012 #35
There's no excuse for plagiarism. None whatsoever. Brickbat Aug 2012 #47
No, there isn't. It is not an "oops" moment when it occurs. n/t AngryOldDem Aug 2012 #49
Why do people who know better do this? AngryOldDem Aug 2012 #48
Plagiarism isn't always a conscious choice. Some folks read something and then later write on the 1monster Aug 2012 #53
Ok, I'll bite, what is plagiarism? Ter Aug 2012 #55
basically copying someone else's work word-for-word or JesterCS Aug 2012 #62
Dont forget dishonest. nt cstanleytech Aug 2012 #64
I love Fareed, but frankly I think his credibility is damaged to the extent that he cannot be.... Tarheel_Dem Aug 2012 #74
 

cosmicone

(11,014 posts)
1. How stupid of him ...
Fri Aug 10, 2012, 05:49 PM
Aug 2012

In this day and age with text comparisons on the web it is so easy to detect plagiarism!

 

tabasco

(22,974 posts)
2. Had a co-worker journalist copy and paste my work
Fri Aug 10, 2012, 05:49 PM
Aug 2012

He was the editor's little darling and she did nothing because we worked for the same paper.

So, she said, it wasn't really plagiarism. I quit soon thereafter.

hack89

(39,171 posts)
5. It is clear that he plagarized - makes no difference who pointed it out.
Fri Aug 10, 2012, 07:09 PM
Aug 2012

I guess the lesson learned is that if you want to take pot shots at the NRA you had better make sure you hit your target the first time. It is not a game for amateurs.

Posteritatis

(18,807 posts)
22. If he plagiarized, the person who pointed it out doesn't make it untrue.
Sat Aug 11, 2012, 02:09 AM
Aug 2012

He should have known better in the first place - as should anyone who does that who isn't still in high school.

karynnj

(59,492 posts)
52. Exactly
Sun Aug 12, 2012, 09:00 PM
Aug 2012

I know that my kids' high schools gave F (zero) on a paper that plagerized. Anyone here knows how easy it is to find something by googling a sentence.

marble falls

(56,948 posts)
26. Over the top. He admitted it so the lying part is out. And the "piece of shit" doesn't speak ...
Sat Aug 11, 2012, 09:18 AM
Aug 2012

to the plagiarism. This sounds personal.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
54. it's Weiner Syndrome
Sun Aug 12, 2012, 09:29 PM
Aug 2012

Whenever a person has some sort of failing, DUers are first on the front lines to decry the person as a subhuman sack of shit who needs to be shot, run over, and dumped into a ditch.

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
65. A bit if unfair hyperbole
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 02:21 PM
Aug 2012

What's wrong with demanding standards and principles, especially amongst our own? We're the party of principles and supposedly one of those principles is to not profit unfairly from the labor of others.

We don't betray them, they betray us.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
66. Because no standards are being demanded, Nuclear
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 03:04 PM
Aug 2012

What level are we elevating to by calling a guy a "piece of shit?" What principles does that fall under, exactly? Is that our standard?

No. "Standards" are not being "demanded," and stop trying to blow that smoke up people's ass.

What this is, is the same smug attitude tabloids play to. The joy - and it IS joy, make no mistake - of seeing someone famous "get theirs."

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
68. You make fair points.
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 03:50 PM
Aug 2012

I do not agree with refering to someone as a POS just because I disapprove of some action they've taken. I try not to cast insults at anyone (I'm not perfect, though; I will admit).

But one person calling another person a POS over some incident does not excuse Mr. Zakaria from plagarism or any other past/present/future offense by anyone else. We have to define our principles and hold to them even when they hurt. Heck, if they didn't hurt I'd hazard a guess those principles wouldn't be worth holding.

That sort of honesty and candor wins far more votes than it loses and it's the lack of principles that feeds cynicism and disengagement.

 

2on2u

(1,843 posts)
77. All he needed do was copy four paragraphs and add a link. It has worked for nearly
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 06:36 PM
Aug 2012

50 million posts that I know of.

 

Equate

(256 posts)
8. So because it was about the NRA
Fri Aug 10, 2012, 07:42 PM
Aug 2012

the plagiarism is acceptable?
Just when you thought you'd seen it all.

 

JackRiddler

(24,979 posts)
10. Did the NRA assist the Bush regime in launching a war of aggression?
Fri Aug 10, 2012, 07:57 PM
Aug 2012

If they didn't, then as bad as they are, they are pikers compared to Zakaria, an accessory to state crimes against humanity.

Fuck him. Fuck CNN too, of course.

 

JackRiddler

(24,979 posts)
9. This media whore's career should have ended after he pimped the invasion of Iraq.
Fri Aug 10, 2012, 07:53 PM
Aug 2012

He chose to uphold the obvious state lie about WMD and made himself an accessory to aggressive war and the genocidal results.

Like so many others who supported the lie, this conventional power-conforming thinker was rewarded for being wrong. He got into the CFR and was made into an elite quasi-statesman, while many of the real journalists who were right about WMD and who did the right thing to speak out against the plans for war were punished.

So fuck him, and too bad this probably isn't the end of him -- or the end of TIME magazine, the American version of the Soviet encyclopedia of history, updated weekly.

 

Equate

(256 posts)
11. LOL
Fri Aug 10, 2012, 08:00 PM
Aug 2012

You really need to quit holding back and tell us how you really feel.

On a more serious note, I couldn't agree with you more.

Joe Bacon

(5,163 posts)
21. I wish I could recommend this 1,000,000 times.
Sat Aug 11, 2012, 01:49 AM
Aug 2012

Because he is your typical corporate stenographer. And you hit the nail right on the head with Time, it's just a propaganda rag for the corporate controlled conservative press.

flamingdem

(39,308 posts)
12. Zakaria is qualified as opposed to most bozos on CNN
Fri Aug 10, 2012, 08:31 PM
Aug 2012

I'm sorry this happened to him due to carelessness. It doesn't seem to be that earth shaking

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
69. this didn't "happen to him." he was an active participant.
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 03:59 PM
Aug 2012

If there was an online version of the original, it looks as though he did a copy and paste, edited a couple words and claimed it as his own.

Lazy and intellectually dishonest.

It's easy to "cut and paste" others words into your writing. And acceptable with full attribution. You either edit it lightly to paraphrase, giving full credit. Or you leave it as a direct quote, again with full credit.


flamingdem

(39,308 posts)
70. You're missing the point. He's considered to be NOT conservative
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 05:35 PM
Aug 2012

so the NRA and pro-Israel lobby jumped on this chance to discredit him.

Disgusting.

Plus, he's way better and more honest than any other reporter on CNN

He made the mistake of not being pro-Israel enough

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
71. you're missing the point. Plagiarism is not acceptable.
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 05:53 PM
Aug 2012

No matter whose side you're on.

What "happened" to him is he got called on it. If it was a case of him having read something years ago and accidentally regurgitating it, that would be forgivable. But this looks pretty blatant.

If he hadn't done it, they wouldn't have anything to go after him for. He handed his enemies a knife. Don't blame them for sticking it in him.

I'm sure if people on the other side had writing worth stealing, and somebody stole it, they would get called on it as well.

flamingdem

(39,308 posts)
72. It's common to take notes and not always realize what is yours and anothers
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 06:06 PM
Aug 2012

this is how it is in the academic world. He got busted fine, but people don't have to degrade him over something so minor.

I'd look at the politics behind it, everyone can get taken down over some pecadillo, oh maybe YOU don't have any.

I have one - i HATE teachers who destroy the lives of students with over minor plagerism

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
73. not if you're a professional writer, especially journalist
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 08:56 PM
Aug 2012

If you are a professional writer your notes had better be meticulous. That includes your sources. Especially your sources.

I don't see anybody degrading him over something so minor. I see some people angry that he supported the illegal, immoral, unnecessary and destructive Iraq war, and seeing this as his just desserts.

And I see other people angry who have themselves been plagiarized by coworkers. I know I was repeatedly by somebody who was too lazy and inept to do her own work. Yes, it was work for hire so neither of us "owned" it. But she and her BFF, our group designer, plotted to get her newsletters designed and published ahead of my brochures and white papers, which she copied, deliberately making me miss deadlines and giving her apparent credit for my plagiarized writing.

I agree that students shouldn't have their academic lives destroyed over plagiarism. Nor should they get off lightly.

However, Zakaria is not a student and neither his life nor his career are destroyed. This is real work in the real world, for which he is extremely well compensated. He has a one month suspension. Even if he gets fired, he can and will recover.

LovingA2andMI

(7,006 posts)
14. This is why CITING a reference, no manner how small....
Fri Aug 10, 2012, 08:51 PM
Aug 2012

Is important. All he had to do was CITE the TEXT back to the original article. Instead, he changed a couple of words and tried to OWN IT as his. Not acceptable and he deserved a suspension on this!

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
18. As I read through the thread it's amazing how many people openly bash him and
Sat Aug 11, 2012, 12:24 AM
Aug 2012

Last edited Sat Aug 11, 2012, 03:38 AM - Edit history (1)

almost root for him to fail. The comments were similar to those on Facebook coming from the right. That should tell you something.

As I wrote over on Facebook, I am disappointed with Zakaria but willing to forgive him. I don't always agree with what he says, but what he says often makes me think about the issues. I usually watch his show on Sunday night (here in Korea), but don't often read this columns. I suppose when he's replaced with Candy Crowely or Wolf Blitizer it will be much better.


Edit: For clarification purposes, I posted on Facebook as I have Zakaria on my "liked" list. Here is exactly what I said:

"I read an article about this before logging onto Facebook this morning. My first reaction was shock. I have long admired your work Fareed as it challenges me to think about so many different world issues. While I am disappointed, I accept your apology. I am a doctoral student and I think this is a teachable moment for not only journalists, but students as well as to how easy it can be to read something and not synthesize it in your own words. Often I am writing papers when I am tired, late at night and not fully rested. This will make me more cautious about the way I write and when I write. I trust you will recover from this with grace and hope that GPS continues on with you. It is the one of the few programs I actually turn on the television to watch these days. Know that there are many fans who will stand by you during this difficult time."

 

just1voice

(1,362 posts)
20. Oh, you wrote it on facebook so it must be important, LOL
Sat Aug 11, 2012, 01:48 AM
Aug 2012

CNN is propaganda. Here's a definition of propaganda to exemplify, just replace the word "propaganda" with "CNN News" and see how precise it is:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda

--Propaganda is a form of communication that is aimed at influencing the attitude of a community toward some cause or position. Propaganda is usually repeated and dispersed over a wide variety of media in order to create the chosen result in audience attitudes.

As opposed to impartially providing information, propaganda, in its most basic sense, presents information primarily to influence an audience. Propaganda often presents facts selectively (thus possibly lying by omission) to encourage a particular synthesis, or uses loaded messages to produce an emotional rather than rational response to the information presented. The desired result is a change of the attitude toward the subject in the target audience to further a political agenda. Propaganda can be used as a form of political warfare.--

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
24. The reason I wrote that on Facebook is I happen have "liked" his page and it came up on my feed
Sat Aug 11, 2012, 02:59 AM
Aug 2012

Something you obviously know if you use Facebook and "like" pages. I also scrolled through and read about a hundred of the comments. Generally speaking they were running about 90% supporting him.

While I agree most of what is on CNN has on is not worth watching, Freed is one of the exceptions. Given I'm overseas, travel and interested in what is going on in the world I enjoy the topics he talks about.

I will restate again so you can understand it, if people want to bash him just because they have differing views go ahead. It just makes you a close minded person for doing so.

 

JackRiddler

(24,979 posts)
31. Like PR is supposed to, your plug for Zakaria evades the point.
Sat Aug 11, 2012, 09:50 AM
Aug 2012

He was one of the key journalists in pimping the Iraq war lies, and was rewarded for it.

He is a stenographer to power, wrapping right-wing and interventionist politics in an intellectual guise.

Now he's been caught for a relatively minor offense. Tough shit.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
32. It wasn't PR it was a response to another poster
Sat Aug 11, 2012, 10:00 AM
Aug 2012

Which had absolutely nothing to do with you. Go back to the hole you crawled out of.

 

JackRiddler

(24,979 posts)
43. PR doesn't have to know it's PR.
Sat Aug 11, 2012, 10:01 PM
Aug 2012

Whether you're doing it instinctively or whether you're mindlessly repeating some that you heard, functionally it's PR.

You are avoiding the central point. Zarkaria did the unforgivable. He pimped a war of aggression. He is a stenographer to power. He may be a really smart guy - so what? Lots of whores are smart.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
44. He apologized and is taking the punishment get over it
Sun Aug 12, 2012, 01:41 AM
Aug 2012

You seem to be the one who is obsessed by it.

 

JackRiddler

(24,979 posts)
46. Oh really, did he apologize for facilitating a war of aggression?
Sun Aug 12, 2012, 12:28 PM
Aug 2012

Sorry, apology not accepted.

Plagiarism? Small potatoes by comparison. Of course he's been a kind of copy cat all along - which is to say, a faithful stenographer to power.

And very sorry if you're so confused that you think having a memory and a sense of right and wrong constitutes "obsession." You're the one defending a low and vile media whore who has only now received a tiny portion of what he deserves.

Response to JackRiddler (Reply #46)

 

JackRiddler

(24,979 posts)
59. The subject of the thread is Fareed Zakaria.
Sun Aug 12, 2012, 11:46 PM
Aug 2012

An epic fraud long before he was caught plagiarizing a couple of paragraphs.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
25. When I read the two paragraphs, I don't regard this as a big deal.
Sat Aug 11, 2012, 08:03 AM
Aug 2012

The paragraphs are similar, it's true, but they don't represent thoughts and ideas. They merely state a list of facts and statements from THE book on gun control. It would've been difficult to relay those same facts and statements without wording it similarly to the Time mag. wording.

Still, it could have and should have been worded more differently. But not a big deal, to me. And I regard plagiarism as a serious matter.

obamanut2012

(26,027 posts)
30. He committed textbook plagiarism
Sat Aug 11, 2012, 09:41 AM
Aug 2012

I've given students zeros for doing the same thing. He knew what he was doing.

 

joeglow3

(6,228 posts)
67. I think you can drop the second part
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 03:15 PM
Aug 2012

I am guessing someone who makes a living in the media probably knows it is wrong to steal other people's work.

 

joeglow3

(6,228 posts)
76. My assumption is 100% accurate
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 06:36 PM
Aug 2012

They know it is wrong. They just have no morals and don't give a shit.

Beacool

(30,245 posts)
35. I like Fareed, so I'm disappointed that he resorted to plagiarism to make his point.
Sat Aug 11, 2012, 02:44 PM
Aug 2012

I hope that he learned his lesson and won't happen again. Here's to seeing him on CNN after the month is up.

AngryOldDem

(14,061 posts)
48. Why do people who know better do this?
Sun Aug 12, 2012, 01:01 PM
Aug 2012

It is an unending mystery to me. They have to know that they WILL get caught.

"Reliable Sources" compared the two passages, and Zakaria's was almost a word-by-word lift.

I don't get it.

1monster

(11,012 posts)
53. Plagiarism isn't always a conscious choice. Some folks read something and then later write on the
Sun Aug 12, 2012, 09:13 PM
Aug 2012

same subject. It is not unsual for very similar words, sentneces, and even paragraphs to result.

When I've written papers on subjects I've read about, I usually go back and look at what I've read in the past just to make sure that I haven't unwittingly written what others have before me. Once in a while, especially when I agreed with the original writer, I will find that my mind regurgitated nearly word for word a description, sentence, and even, on occasion, a whole paragraph.

At which point, I do some serious editing and rewriting... and I cite the original. I am aware of this tendency, so I check, but others may believe they are simply putting down their own thoughts.

 

Ter

(4,281 posts)
55. Ok, I'll bite, what is plagiarism?
Sun Aug 12, 2012, 10:43 PM
Aug 2012

First I thought he had like three wives or something, but I can see from the replies this is clearly not what it means.

JesterCS

(1,827 posts)
62. basically copying someone else's work word-for-word or
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 09:58 AM
Aug 2012

almost exactly word for word and same structure in the information.

in other words, being lazy

Tarheel_Dem

(31,220 posts)
74. I love Fareed, but frankly I think his credibility is damaged to the extent that he cannot be....
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 01:17 AM
Aug 2012

an effective interviewer at this point. If he goes for the kill, which he can be very effective at, the interviewee will likely openly mock him. Who, in the media, has come back from this sort of thing? He's so damned intelligent, especially with regard to all things in the ME. This is very damaging to his credibility as a journalist.

"Suspension" = we're easing him out.

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