'Unborn children' qualify as college savers in GOP tax plan

[highplainsdem]

Source: Politico

The tax bill unveiled by House Republicans on Thursday would allow expectant parents to start putting away money for college and private school tuition, wading into the battle over when human life begins.

The legislation includes language that would open up tax-advantaged college savings accounts known as 529s to what the legislation calls "unborn children" as designated beneficiaries. And a bill summary specifically defines that as “a child in utero. A child in utero means a member of the species homo sapiens, at any stage of development, who is carried in the womb.”

Groups on both sides of the abortion debate squared off over the provision, opening a new front in the push to grant legal rights to a fetus.

“A child in the womb is just as human as you or I yet, until now, the U.S. tax code has failed to acknowledge the unborn child — all while granting tax breaks for those seeking an abortion under the pretense of 'healthcare,'" said Jeanne Mancini, president of March for Life, an organization opposed to abortion rights.

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Read more: https://www.politico.com/story/2017/11/02/gop-tax-bill-abortion-rights-college-savings-244486

[Angry Dragon]

1. issue SS numbers then

[iluvtennis]

5. I was thinking Social Security Numbers are needed as well, I had to have them when I did 529's

for my twin girls. And to get their SS's, I had to provide a raised seal copy of birth certificates. Guess in utero fetuses will now be give birth certificates.

[Yupster]

8. SS #'s are needed

as is a birthday so this idea isn't practical.

It is not unusual for grandparents to try to set accounts for kids soon to be born. I have had it happen more than a handful of times in my 30 years in the business.

[meow2u3]

19. What are the unborn kids going to need, conception certificates?

[RainCaster]

2. What happens to those accounts after a miscarriage?

Let's just send that money to Planned Parenthood.

[cstanleytech]

4. I assume the accounts would continue until they have a child to claim them however its clearly

a ploy on their part to attack a woman's right to an abortion by defining when an embryo is classified as a human life and down the road they would use the law being sustained as justification to ban all abortions.

[Yupster]

9. You can change the beneficiary

of a 529 account.

[MosheFeingold]

35. Same thing that happens when a teenager dies. n/t

[Judi Lynn]

3. Desperately sick people. So repulsive. n/t

[Astraea]

6. children with no names, no social security numbers

Lovely.

[lunasun]

29. They are not children though until live birth

[enki23]

7. This is terrible. The rates of miscarriage among rich assholes is going to go through the roof.

This will put a hell of a dent in our healthcare statistics.

[world wide wally]

10. We have 14 unborn children!

[JDC]

27. That is the loophole

[iluvtennis]

34. You all are correct...I hadn't thought of the mis carriage loop hole. nt

[Midnight Writer]

11. Hey, is there any chance I can get a tax credit for my unconceived children?

I mean, without getting a lawyer and going through a bunch of crap.

Mother forgive me, but I have spilled tons of unplanted seed.

[SunSeeker]

12. Ok, that's funny. But don't give those GOP idiots any ideas. nt

[mdbl]

14. if it were up to the fundies spilling seed would be a jailable offense

because it's a sin and none of them ever do that.

[SunSeeker]

30. I've always found fundies to be the biggest pervs I've ever met.

Sexual suppression leads to some twisted shit.

[SunSeeker]

13. These GOP fundies don't care about the college costs of actual college students.

This is all about chipping away at abortion rights so as to be able to force women to give birth against their will.

[BumRushDaShow]

15. Soon a miscarriage will be considered infantcide.

[meow2u3]

20. Radical Christianist extremists are chomping at the bit to imprison women

for miscarriages--something women can't control! They want to presume women guilty and throw them in corporate concentration camps, fka private prisons, without any due process whatsoever.

[secondwind]

16. Seriously? They are removing the college credits for actual college students! WTF

[dembotoz]

17. Tax Dodge? Shelter wages for imaginary kid to redeem or reassign later?

How the hell do u verify the death?

[HAB911]

18. This is just one more step in a process

to make life begin at conception

[smirkymonkey]

39. Exactly! I so fucking hate these people!

[KY_EnviroGuy]

21. These are sick bastards.

I suppose an ultrasound will be equivalent to a birth certificate, signed by licensed technicians.

Next will be GOP TV monitors in all bedrooms for certified conception.

[greymattermom]

22. So if a couple conceives a child on a trip to Cancun

is the baby a US citizen when it's born in Ohio?

[Nitram]

25. How about if they conceive a child while saving up money for a trip to Cancun?

[Eugene]

23. Stepping up the craziness to a whole new level.

This kind of stuff used to be confined to the fringe. Now serious lawmakers are trying to write the lunatic agenda into real laws.

Each new day is more outrageous than the one before with the Republicans in charge.

[Nitram]

24. I have to give them credit for originality, creativity and thinking outside the box.

What a convoluted way to sneak in legal limits on abortion services. If the embryo has a savings account, it must be a person!

[Irish_Dem]

26. The next step is to let them vote. nt

[booksenkatz]

28. Sperm/eggs are the first stage of the development of homo sapiens

They are living cells, too. When they combine, they change form, and there is potential to grow into new types of cells, but they are no more alive than before they combined. Life does not begin at conception, it continues.

So I hope they're ok with my husband & me claiming millions of deductions on our 1040.
Yay!

[Irish_Dem]

33. Are eggs and sperm citizens too? nt

[Cold War Spook]

36. If "unborn children" fetuses are human

then their god is the biggest mass murderer of "unborn children" fetuses of all time.

[mjvpi]

37. We need to insure that zygotes can declare bankruptcy and default on student loans!

[truthisfreedom]

38. Why not just give credit for all the eggs left in her ovaries?