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demmiblue

(36,841 posts)
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 05:30 AM Nov 2017

Sexually active students must be reported to law enforcement or state officials, Ore. school...

Source: The Washington Post

Teachers and staff in the Salem-Keizer school district — which includes more than 40,000 students — were recently told that if they learn or merely suspect a student is sexually active, they must report it to law enforcement or state officials.

According to Oregon law, anyone under 18 years old cannot legally give consent, meaning all sexual activity between minors is considered sexual abuse. This policy, district officials say, stems from Oregon’s mandatory reporting and child abuse laws. But that seems to be a singular interpretation of the law. The Statesman Journal reached out to school districts around the state and found that not one of them had the same mandate.

The subject came up at a training session for teachers and staff in the school district because “we felt like we hadn’t made it clear enough,” as Superintendent Christy Perry told the Statesman Journal.

During the presentation, the district offered several specific examples of when an employee needs to contact law enforcement. These include a 15-year-old telling a teacher that she is having sex with her boyfriend and wants to learn about birth control, or a 17-year-old confiding in a teacher that his 16-year-old girlfriend is pregnant.

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2017/11/03/sexually-active-students-must-be-reported-to-law-enforcement-or-state-officials-ore-school-district-says/

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Sexually active students must be reported to law enforcement or state officials, Ore. school... (Original Post) demmiblue Nov 2017 OP
Why not just fit male and female chastity belts? Doodley Nov 2017 #1
If the school Superintendent is criminalizing sex then every student who procon Nov 2017 #2
Oh, that'll work. Laffy Kat Nov 2017 #3
...and worse! Grins Nov 2017 #29
I suspect this law was written Bob Loblaw Nov 2017 #4
just when you think things can't get any weirder mdbl Nov 2017 #5
So they will go by hearsay? Will they be having exams of girls' privates? YOHABLO Nov 2017 #6
I suggest the teachers mercuryblues Nov 2017 #7
OMG! This is so unbelieveable that someone would even think about doing this. riversedge Nov 2017 #8
Masturbaters should unite and self report! HAB911 Nov 2017 #9
! demmiblue Nov 2017 #10
Who needs the taliban? dembotoz Nov 2017 #11
What a stupid idea. So much for police catching murderers, burglars and Trump family members. Vinca Nov 2017 #12
Preposterous. JDC Nov 2017 #13
This is so backwards Maggiemayhem Nov 2017 #14
"merely suspect" - Scarlet Letter with a question mark keithbvadu2 Nov 2017 #15
Oh, Gawd, The New Puritanism raises its ugly head. Nitram Nov 2017 #16
I wonder if this puritanism or a very misguided CYA type of thing. xor Nov 2017 #28
I've seen this movie. SCVDem Nov 2017 #17
There are 3 Trump touting, social conservatives newly elected to the school board Chakaconcarne Nov 2017 #18
So, crotch-grabbing... Zambero Nov 2017 #23
Is there documentation of these people pushing this? xor Nov 2017 #30
As an educator who taught middle and high school... Sancho Nov 2017 #19
This message was self-deleted by its author WinkyDink Nov 2017 #21
This message was self-deleted by its author WinkyDink Nov 2017 #20
This message was self-deleted by its author WinkyDink Nov 2017 #22
So if two 16-year-olds had sex with each other, Chemisse Nov 2017 #24
Some people in power clearly have too much time on their hands. This is shabby, beneath everyone. nt Judi Lynn Nov 2017 #25
INSANE!! BadGimp Nov 2017 #26
Drive it underground. Chilling effect. This will encourage the spread of disease. bronxiteforever Nov 2017 #27
WTF? Corey_Baker08 Nov 2017 #31
Frankly, I can hardly frame a response... malthaussen Nov 2017 #32
Where did these people leave their brains? appleannie1943 Nov 2017 #33
Under His Eye maxsolomon Nov 2017 #34
what the hell is going on in Oregon bluestarone Nov 2017 #35
TPTB must get really got and turned on by this, thinking about all those kids and sex!!! n/t RKP5637 Nov 2017 #36
ridiculous Skittles Nov 2017 #37
This is beyond sick. It punishes children for being human. It forces children to remain uninformed. truthisfreedom Nov 2017 #38

procon

(15,805 posts)
2. If the school Superintendent is criminalizing sex then every student who
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 06:20 AM
Nov 2017

is sexually active can be charged with sexual abuse by law enforcement. That would put them on the list of sex offenders, ruining their entire lives.

What the hell are they thinking!

Laffy Kat

(16,377 posts)
3. Oh, that'll work.
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 06:26 AM
Nov 2017
What are they going to do, throw them in jail? And why do I have a feeling this will focus on girls more than boys? Just have a feelin'....

Grins

(7,217 posts)
29. ...and worse!
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 12:25 PM
Nov 2017

They will be registered by the state as a sex offender/predator, and that will follow them their entire lives! Oregon once went after a 6-year old boy for kissing a girl - on her hand! He would have been declared a sex predator by the state. Even the WSJ screamed about that one.

Bob Loblaw

(1,900 posts)
4. I suspect this law was written
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 06:33 AM
Nov 2017

by some who are sexually active by themselves, while fantasizing about sexually active teens.

mdbl

(4,973 posts)
5. just when you think things can't get any weirder
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 06:49 AM
Nov 2017

someone needs to clarify the difference between two minors and an adult and a minor in that law. How stupid.

Vinca

(50,269 posts)
12. What a stupid idea. So much for police catching murderers, burglars and Trump family members.
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 07:28 AM
Nov 2017

They'll be tied up writing reports about Tammy's sweet sixteen party and the tryst behind the birthday presents.

Maggiemayhem

(809 posts)
14. This is so backwards
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 07:41 AM
Nov 2017

What the hell does law enforcement have to do with this? If a cop came to my door and told me a teacher suspected my child was sexually active, I think I would blow a gasket. The fucking teacher would be next. I t doesn’t even have to be true to taint a childs record.Don't the cops have better things to do like catch real criminals?

Nitram

(22,794 posts)
16. Oh, Gawd, The New Puritanism raises its ugly head.
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 08:42 AM
Nov 2017

So no student will ever go to a teacher about advice related to sex. that's progress?

xor

(1,204 posts)
28. I wonder if this puritanism or a very misguided CYA type of thing.
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 12:24 PM
Nov 2017

I can't seem to find anything more as to the logic behind why they think this makes the students "more safe" I wish reporters were more aggressive at digging into the details when it comes to stuff like this. Is this just a knee-jerk stupid decision on some administrators parts, or are there some deeper issues driving this.

 

SCVDem

(5,103 posts)
17. I've seen this movie.
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 09:19 AM
Nov 2017

It ends with a big concert in New York and the entire social fabric of America is changed by the revolution.

Young people WILL rebel!

Chakaconcarne

(2,446 posts)
18. There are 3 Trump touting, social conservatives newly elected to the school board
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 09:35 AM
Nov 2017

(Kathy Goss, Jesse Lippole and Marty Heyen) pushing this and choosing to interpret a law to fit their morality. The only school district in the state doing this.

xor

(1,204 posts)
30. Is there documentation of these people pushing this?
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 12:25 PM
Nov 2017

Do they bring it up in meetings or what? I'm always curious how this stuff comes about.

Sancho

(9,067 posts)
19. As an educator who taught middle and high school...
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 09:46 AM
Nov 2017

I'd just have to turn in my entire class roster.

I started teaching in 1976, and I assume that any students from middle school up could be sexually active. I can't remember a year that we didn't know of a student that was pregnant, or a students weren't "caught" under the stadium seats or whatever you can imagine.

It's not always "simple", since students talk and joke about sex a lot, and the examples are not realistic. Of course students will sometimes directly tell the teacher they are pregnant or ask for help, but more often the teacher observes some behavior or overhears a conversation. It's pretty common to refer a student to a counselor or some other service.

Sorry, but even in conservative school districts sex education starts with adolescents (of course parents can usually have their darlings opt out).

If they wanted to investigate for abuse every teenager having sex, they'd have to hire more social workers and cops than teachers. I don't think anyone really knows, but I'd guess by the time they leave high school a large percentage of students are no longer virgins (half or more)? They do surveys and things, but those are self-report and not necessarily accurate.

Is Oregon going to arrest someone or investigate 10,000 students in the Salem-Keizer district for "abuse"?

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Chemisse

(30,809 posts)
24. So if two 16-year-olds had sex with each other,
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 11:38 AM
Nov 2017

They would both be charged with a sex crime? Each would be both a perpetrator and a victim!

bronxiteforever

(9,287 posts)
27. Drive it underground. Chilling effect. This will encourage the spread of disease.
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 12:19 PM
Nov 2017

I can’t think of anything that will make this policy worse.

malthaussen

(17,193 posts)
32. Frankly, I can hardly frame a response...
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 12:29 PM
Nov 2017

... this has got to be the stupidest idea I've heard all day, although it is before noon.

-- Mal

appleannie1943

(1,303 posts)
33. Where did these people leave their brains?
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 12:36 PM
Nov 2017

First of all, tell a teen they can't do something and they will run right out and do it first chance they get. Second, if a teen is engaging in sexual activity, the best thing to do is educate them on possible consequences and protection not only from pregnancy but from disease. Third, you are encouraging young people to sneak and lie if you enforce things like this. And fourth, it is none of law enforcement's damn business. Are they going to put stocks in front of the school to shame kids too?

truthisfreedom

(23,146 posts)
38. This is beyond sick. It punishes children for being human. It forces children to remain uninformed.
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 06:45 PM
Nov 2017

It's just sick, sick, sick.

There are obviously no adults in charge. I thought Oregon leans Democratic? What the hell has gone wrong?

Kids need guidance, not punishment, when it comes to the biological imperative.

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