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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 11:47 AM Nov 2017

Justice Dept. alleges ACLU misled government about timing of teen's abortion

Source: The Hill




BY MAX GREENWOOD - 11/03/17 11:21 AM EDT

The Justice Department has filed a petition with the Supreme Court alleging that the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) misled the U.S. government about the timing of a young undocumented immigrant's abortion procedure late last month after a bitter legal fight.

In a petition for a writ of certiorari on Friday, the Justice Department asked the high court to vacate a lower court's decision permitting the 17-year-old immigrant – referred to in court documents as "Jane Doe" – to move forward with the abortion, and to weigh whether to discipline the girls' lawyers for allegedly lying to government attorneys.

“The government asked to be kept informed of the timing of Ms. Doe’s abortion procedure, and one of respondent’s counsel agreed to do so," the brief says, noting that government attorneys had notified Doe's lawyers at the time that they intended file a stay application. But before Justice Department lawyers were able to file that stay, the girl left the Texas detention center where she was being held and obtained the abortion at 4:15 a.m., according to the brief.

"Ms. Doe’s representatives did three things: they secured the services of Ms. Doe’s original physician (who had provided counseling the previous week), moved her appointment from 7:30 to 4:15 a.m. on the morning of October 25, and changed the appointment from counseling to an abortion," the brief says.

Read more: http://thehill.com/homenews/news/358620-doj-alleges-aclu-misled-government-about-timing-of-teens-abortion

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Justice Dept. alleges ACLU misled government about timing of teen's abortion (Original Post) DonViejo Nov 2017 OP
They have nothing better to do? Ugly freaks. Go crawl back under your racist rock. C Moon Nov 2017 #1
they're just pissed because they lost gopiscrap Nov 2017 #2
So they are trying to get the order that permitted the abortion vacated. The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2017 #3
Yep Pacifist Patriot Nov 2017 #5
That's an odd way to put it. JohnnyRingo Nov 2017 #4
This statement is a lie angrychair Nov 2017 #8
Why does Sessions hate this young woman so much? procon Nov 2017 #6
Keep the government out of your doctor's office and out of your bedroom bucolic_frolic Nov 2017 #7
So do they want the fetus reinserted in the girl? onenote Nov 2017 #9
This statement should scare EVERYBODY angrychair Nov 2017 #10
They are claiming that the girl did not get the mandated counseling - but she had csziggy Nov 2017 #11
Sour grapes GulfCoast66 Nov 2017 #12
Waah, the brown girl got an abortion and I said no, whines the racist hating elf. lark Nov 2017 #13

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,587 posts)
3. So they are trying to get the order that permitted the abortion vacated.
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 11:56 AM
Nov 2017

But the abortion has already occurred. So they're wasting public money trying to change something that can't be undone. I suppose they're looking at some allegedly improper procedure so as to bust the ACLU lawyers, but it's still stupid.

JohnnyRingo

(18,619 posts)
4. That's an odd way to put it.
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 12:00 PM
Nov 2017

Using the word "timing" implies that the ACLU deceived the public about the circumstances behind the pregnancy or why she wanted one, like saying she was not so far along or lying about her immigration status. Instead, Sessions is just mad he was outsmarted by some slick Yankee lawyers.

His statement at the end of the article says it all.

"I don't believe that we should be using taxpayers’ dollars to fund abortions and I think in this case, it certainly was not justified," he said. "We've resisted it steadfastly and I'm very disappointed that these lawyers were able to take the client around the law to avoid a court hearing at least to see that we were filing."

angrychair

(8,678 posts)
8. This statement is a lie
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 12:36 PM
Nov 2017

No government money was needed or used. Not one cent of taxpayer money was used for her medical care.

FUCK THESE ASSHOLES!!

procon

(15,805 posts)
6. Why does Sessions hate this young woman so much?
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 12:08 PM
Nov 2017

Its beyond bizarre that the DOJ is still at it, persecuting her for a legal medical procedure.

angrychair

(8,678 posts)
10. This statement should scare EVERYBODY
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 02:00 PM
Nov 2017

It implies that the government wanted to make her stop long enough so they could fill a petition in court to order her to stop.
They are making demands they have no right to demand but they seem to think they do and that is the part that should worry everybody.

Fuck these assholes!

csziggy

(34,131 posts)
11. They are claiming that the girl did not get the mandated counseling - but she had
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 02:17 PM
Nov 2017

In previous stories, it was said that she was told she was being taken to a clinic to get her abortion but instead was taken to a pregnancy crisis center which tried to dissuade her from getting one. Wouldn't that count as the required counseling under Texas law?

From the link in the OP:

"Although Ms. Doe’s representatives informed the government of the change in timing, they did not inform the government of the other two developments – which kept the government in the dark about when Ms. Doe was scheduled to have an abortion.”

Texas law requires women planning to undergo abortions to attend counseling 24 hours in advance of the procedure.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
12. Sour grapes
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 02:33 PM
Nov 2017

She had no obligation to tell the government anything. One the court cleared the way she was free to proceed without anyone knowing.

lark

(23,061 posts)
13. Waah, the brown girl got an abortion and I said no, whines the racist hating elf.
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 04:28 PM
Nov 2017

Suck on it, she made her choice and your hate lost the day, hahahahaha.

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