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sl8

(13,678 posts)
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 07:17 PM Nov 2017

South Carolina girl kills herself over bullying, family says

Source: CBS News

A South Carolina girl's family said she shot herself to death because she was being bullied at school, CBS affiliate WTOC-TV reports.

Toni Rivers, 11, told five of her friends that "she just couldn't do this anymore, and she was going home, and she was killing herself," her aunt, Maria Petersen, told the station.

Hampton County sheriff's deputies were dispatched to the family's home late in the afternoon on Oct. 25 after Toni's 14-year-old sister called 911, according to an incident report. Petersen said Toni died three days later.

The state's Law Enforcement Division is investigating the death.

Read more: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/south-carolina-girl-kills-herself-bullying-family/

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South Carolina girl kills herself over bullying, family says (Original Post) sl8 Nov 2017 OP
So sad. My heart goes out to the family. Chasstev365 Nov 2017 #1
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2017 #2
She was being bullied. I was bullied in grade school and my parents were great parents. wasupaloopa Nov 2017 #3
Her parents must have made it easy for her to shot herself. jzola Nov 2017 #4
My question exactly. Why wasn't the gun locked up. Kept mine in safe in bedroom and iluvtennis Nov 2017 #16
You are totally ignorant and so wrong miss-nasty Nov 2017 #6
Your comments show sarisataka Nov 2017 #9
Forget it Jake, it's a spam post touting a tow truck outfit in New Orleans Brother Buzz Nov 2017 #13
I wondered about that link sarisataka Nov 2017 #15
I believe the MIR Team was out on their union covfefe break Brother Buzz Nov 2017 #19
. sarisataka Nov 2017 #24
You posted this nonsense to spam us ornotna Nov 2017 #12
I hope they find the little bulling bastards; indict, convict then throw them in jail. democratisphere Nov 2017 #5
Heartbreaking. This is why I do not keep guns in the house. SunSeeker Nov 2017 #7
In cases I have seen sarisataka Nov 2017 #10
I am not disputing the grief level. I am saying guns make suicide more likely. SunSeeker Nov 2017 #14
It is true the ability of a firearm sarisataka Nov 2017 #18
Please stop with the straw men. This is a serious subject. SunSeeker Nov 2017 #20
There are few subjects I take more seriously than teen suicide sarisataka Nov 2017 #23
Me too. A high school friend killed herself with her family's gun. SunSeeker Nov 2017 #25
I do have some sarisataka Nov 2017 #28
Your wife may not see the signs in time. Kaleva Nov 2017 #32
Melania, can your husband spare you a tweet or two? He won't tweet about this. Will you? . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2017 #8
Weshould sneak it into a twitter thread of hers. nt Ilsa Nov 2017 #27
I was bullied by classmates and my mother told me "oh, they're just kidding with you DK504 Nov 2017 #11
I'm so sorry that happened to you. That is the kind of stupid thing that parents sometimes say. pnwmom Nov 2017 #21
My mother told me to stop complaining and suck it up crazycatlady Nov 2017 #30
This is why we can't have nice things. Initech Nov 2017 #17
What a shame there was no one to help her. Judi Lynn Nov 2017 #22
So heartbreaking. SunSeeker Nov 2017 #26
That pic crushes me. So sad JDC Nov 2017 #29
Oh god, that poor little girl! smirkymonkey Nov 2017 #31
The 11 year old used her own gun to kill herself Kaleva Nov 2017 #33

Response to sl8 (Original post)

 

wasupaloopa

(4,516 posts)
3. She was being bullied. I was bullied in grade school and my parents were great parents.
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 07:33 PM
Nov 2017

If a kid is bullied at school it is hard to deal with. But must be dealt with.

iluvtennis

(19,835 posts)
16. My question exactly. Why wasn't the gun locked up. Kept mine in safe in bedroom and
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 08:12 PM
Nov 2017

locked bedroom door to keep my kids out as they got home from school before I got home from work. A lot of sitters don't watch em like a parent would.

BTW, the schools my kids attended talked big about anti bullying policies and procedures, but when we parents (and our kids) reported it, the school didn't do anything to stop it, so it continues on and on.

This is just so sad, 11 years old.

miss-nasty

(251 posts)
6. You are totally ignorant and so wrong
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 07:37 PM
Nov 2017

People ignorant on this topic should think about what they're saying before posting. You are ripping many parents hearts out that have children that have committed suicide. You should educate yourself then likely you'll be ashamed and delete your disgusting comment.

sarisataka

(18,498 posts)
9. Your comments show
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 07:50 PM
Nov 2017

Ignorant on the matter of teen suicide.

I have worked, and still do part-time, with some Funeral Directors assisting them. I have seen far too many teens who killed themselves. Many of them had very loving and supportive families. Sometimes they were aware of issues in their children's lives other times they were not. Bullying however is a cause that reappears in well over half of the cases.

Brother Buzz

(36,385 posts)
13. Forget it Jake, it's a spam post touting a tow truck outfit in New Orleans
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 08:05 PM
Nov 2017

MIR Team, please pick up the white courtesy telephone

democratisphere

(17,235 posts)
5. I hope they find the little bulling bastards; indict, convict then throw them in jail.
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 07:37 PM
Nov 2017

Where the hell is Melania with her anti-bulling campaign?

sarisataka

(18,498 posts)
10. In cases I have seen
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 07:53 PM
Nov 2017

Hanging occurs about three to four times more often than self-inflicted gunshot wounds. Overdoses are the third most common method but trails the other two significantly.
I have never noticed any difference in the grief level of families who lost a child to suicide based on what method their child used to end their life.

SunSeeker

(51,518 posts)
14. I am not disputing the grief level. I am saying guns make suicide more likely.
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 08:06 PM
Nov 2017

Because they do.

In 2006, after years of suicides among young men in the Israel Defense Forces, authorities forbade the troops from bringing their rifles home on weekends. Suicides dropped by 40 percent, according to a 2010 study by psychiatrists with the IDF and the Sheba Medical Center.

https://www.stripes.com/news/experts-restricting-troops-access-to-firearms-is-necessary-to-reduce-rate-of-suicides-1.199216

In particular, there was no significant change in suicide rates during the week, so it's not the case that the timing of the policy coincided with some other change which made soldiers less suicidal overall. It was a clear case of means reduction.  

We all get depressed, but we don't all have a gun handy when we are at our lowest point. Guns are quick, efficient killing tools that allow suicidal people to act on impulse, before friends, family and medical professionals can intervene. Guns turn a treatable depression into a fatal illness.

sarisataka

(18,498 posts)
18. It is true the ability of a firearm
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 08:14 PM
Nov 2017

To inflict a lethal injury is nearly unmatched, it is still simply a means to an end.

If we choose keep our Firearms securely locked, or to not even own one, and pat ourselves on the back that the problem is solved we are merely deluding ourselves.

SunSeeker

(51,518 posts)
20. Please stop with the straw men. This is a serious subject.
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 08:20 PM
Nov 2017

No one said keeping guns out of the house will end suicide. No one is "deluding" themselves.

My point is that guns in the home make suicide more likely. It is a fact.

sarisataka

(18,498 posts)
23. There are few subjects I take more seriously than teen suicide
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 08:37 PM
Nov 2017

I have taught Suicide Prevention in the military and in some schools. At the funeral home and I also work with our grief counselor to reach out to friends of suicide victims at the services to prevent follow on suicides.

I am also the parent of a teen and a preteen. The VA contact me yearly to check on my psychological status because I am at a demographic that is one of the highest suicide risks in the country.

SunSeeker

(51,518 posts)
25. Me too. A high school friend killed herself with her family's gun.
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 09:08 PM
Nov 2017

If you are in a demographic that is one of the highest suicide risks in the country, I sincerely hope you do not keep a gun in the house.

sarisataka

(18,498 posts)
28. I do have some
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 09:20 PM
Nov 2017

And have discussed risks with my wife. Though I personally have never felt suicidal I have the guns secured with a dual system. She has the ability to lock me out if I seem depressed or showing other risk signs.

I also have several friends in similar situations. Long ago we agreed to reach out if life ever seemed hopeless before taking any action. About 20 years ago one called for help. Though it was 3am we arrived in under ten minutes. One took him to the hospital while the others secured his weapons. We kept them for nearly a year until we were satisfied the crisis was truly over. He trusted us and never once asked for the guns back. Today he his healthy and happy with a wife he adores. If he or she were to call again, the rest of us would respond again.

Kaleva

(36,259 posts)
32. Your wife may not see the signs in time.
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 11:14 PM
Nov 2017

My wife can and has dropped to bottom in less then an hour time. I left home on morning to run some errands and by the time I came back a short time later, she had attempted to end her life. She was her normal self when I left but something caused her to crash.

Having guns in the house, when you are part of a high risk group, and hoping that someone can see the signs or that you are sound enough to make a call for help isn't wise IMHO. Or you maybe your wife only has access to the guns.

Edit: But then again, you may be fine. One can't diagnosis or even offer sound advice from reading a few posts and while I have some training and experiences in this area, I can't say what's best for you.

DK504

(3,847 posts)
11. I was bullied by classmates and my mother told me "oh, they're just kidding with you
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 07:58 PM
Nov 2017

it means they like you because they have noticed you."

Seriously she said that to me. She didn't care, she only wanted to look good in front of her friends and keep the facade of the bombardment of abuse within my family and classmates.

I tried to run away and they caught me and brought me back. Yeah, it got worse from there on out. Telling the parents sometimes won't work...I had to trust some teachers and tel them the truth.

pnwmom

(108,959 posts)
21. I'm so sorry that happened to you. That is the kind of stupid thing that parents sometimes say.
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 08:26 PM
Nov 2017

Especially when it involves the opposite sex -- they're being mean because they like you. What a dumb thing for a parent to say.

My father always told us to ignore bullies, so I did. It didn't stop them. Finally, when I was in my forties, I told my dad how much it hurt when certain boys called me "brillo" and "SOS," because of my hair. He said, "well, it was your fault for not ignoring them."

That was my last attempt to get any understanding from him.

crazycatlady

(4,492 posts)
30. My mother told me to stop complaining and suck it up
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 09:56 PM
Nov 2017

The school also did nothing about it. In fact, more often than not, I was the one who got into trouble.

Initech

(100,041 posts)
17. This is why we can't have nice things.
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 08:13 PM
Nov 2017

That kid definitely deserved better, along with the thousands who kill themselves because of bullying. And our president and first lady are clearly not helping.

Judi Lynn

(160,451 posts)
22. What a shame there was no one to help her.
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 08:32 PM
Nov 2017


Rest in peace, Toni Rivers.

Who wouldn't want to protect this child from harm?
 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
31. Oh god, that poor little girl!
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 10:30 PM
Nov 2017

I hope the kids who were bullying her are haunted by this for the rest of their days. I am so sorry for Toni and her family. This should never happen to a child this young.

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