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mobeau69

(11,141 posts)
Mon Nov 6, 2017, 11:44 AM Nov 2017

The Latest: Judge may lift Manafort, Gates home confinement

Source: AP

A federal judge says she's inclined to remove from house arrest the former chairman of President Donald Trump's campaign and his business associate.

But U.S. District Judge Amy Berman Jackson did not immediately rule at Monday's court session, saying she needs more financial information from Paul Manafort and Rick Gates.

The men are accused of laundering the profits of foreign consulting work performed on behalf of a Ukrainian political party and concealing those assets from the U.S. government. They have pleaded not guilty.

Jackson says that once she receives the additional financial information she is prepared to lift the home confinement requirement but with certain restrictions, such as a bar on international travel.


Read more: http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/latest-judge-lift-manafort-gates-home-confinement-50962647

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The Latest: Judge may lift Manafort, Gates home confinement (Original Post) mobeau69 Nov 2017 OP
So a private jet will pick them up greymattermom Nov 2017 #1
Can she keep the ankle bracelets on them? lagomorph777 Nov 2017 #2
During his status hearing on Thursday, mobeau69 Nov 2017 #5
Yeah probably a flight risk. Then why would you relax home confinement? rockfordfile Nov 2017 #22
Wonder if they have guidleines on these decisions. mobeau69 Nov 2017 #32
From CBS mobeau69 Nov 2017 #3
W T F! Faux pas Nov 2017 #4
If this was any of us MFM008 Nov 2017 #6
I second that motion............... turbinetree Nov 2017 #7
Yeah PatSeg Nov 2017 #8
I'm not defending Manafort..... SergeStorms Nov 2017 #25
One can always hope! PatSeg Nov 2017 #34
If he wasn't a "white collar" criminal dflprincess Nov 2017 #35
The problem isn't that they may be able to make bail, it's that bail is often too high for others onenote Nov 2017 #17
So Manafort allegedly had 3 passports. MontanaMama Nov 2017 #9
The government confiscated... SergeStorms Nov 2017 #26
She think both are BROKE and can't go anywhere? Bengus81 Nov 2017 #10
Cuz it's not like he has money stashed in overseas accounts. AJT Nov 2017 #11
Paul Manafort, Rick Gates to remain on house arrest with movements tracked by GPS, judge orders Botany Nov 2017 #12
Whew. An important ruling over men who tend to think they can "get away" with anything. ancianita Nov 2017 #13
one little problem Botany Nov 2017 #14
"Consulting work"??? ananda Nov 2017 #15
It only takes that little bit of hope talk to keep them badgering her, doesn't it. Damn. ancianita Nov 2017 #16
The Judge wants.... SergeStorms Nov 2017 #29
Good, thank you for the update uppityperson Nov 2017 #20
White privilege in action perdita9 Nov 2017 #18
I just wonder now much that Trump Tower apartment is worth. Raven123 Nov 2017 #19
Passports aren't needed rainin Nov 2017 #21
if he uses private plane he should bluestarone Nov 2017 #23
Lock them up! treestar Nov 2017 #24
uh-oh Geechie Nov 2017 #27
No. They will run. They should be in jail. The Wielding Truth Nov 2017 #28
yep bluestarone Nov 2017 #30
Good as gone. Sneederbunk Nov 2017 #31
I'm Guessing The Info She is Awaiting ... DoctorJoJo Nov 2017 #33

mobeau69

(11,141 posts)
5. During his status hearing on Thursday,
Mon Nov 6, 2017, 11:51 AM
Nov 2017

Judge Amy Berman Jackson at the U.S. District Court in D.C. did not seem willing to relax GPS monitoring, suggesting she still thinks there is a flight risk, but said she would be more open to relaxing home confinement and asked his lawyers to present a package ahead of his Monday morning hearing.

mobeau69

(11,141 posts)
32. Wonder if they have guidleines on these decisions.
Mon Nov 6, 2017, 05:17 PM
Nov 2017

There's definitely 2 systems of justice. We already know that. But still, wtf?

SergeStorms

(19,193 posts)
25. I'm not defending Manafort.....
Mon Nov 6, 2017, 03:40 PM
Nov 2017

but in all fairness he's only been charged with crimes at this point, not convicted. Punishments and hardships will come later, after he's convicted, and he will be convicted!

Just sayin'.

PatSeg

(47,399 posts)
34. One can always hope!
Mon Nov 6, 2017, 07:06 PM
Nov 2017

Actually, I think the odds are against him at this point. People like him and Trump get cocky and overly confident, then they become careless. It looks like Manafort left breadcrumbs all over the globe!

dflprincess

(28,075 posts)
35. If he wasn't a "white collar" criminal
Mon Nov 6, 2017, 10:34 PM
Nov 2017

he'd be sitting in jail until trial. Hard to feel sorry for him being confined to the house.

onenote

(42,693 posts)
17. The problem isn't that they may be able to make bail, it's that bail is often too high for others
Mon Nov 6, 2017, 12:43 PM
Nov 2017

People arrested but not yet convicted are, of course, presumed innocent. In most situations, these individuals are considered to be eligible for bail. However, somewhere around one-half of bail-eligible prisoners remain in jail because they lack the resources to make bail.

The issue isn't that Manafort and Gates have the resources to make bail no matter how high it is set, it is that bail is often set at a level that is too high for a person of more modest means to meet.

MontanaMama

(23,307 posts)
9. So Manafort allegedly had 3 passports.
Mon Nov 6, 2017, 11:59 AM
Nov 2017

Did he have to relinquish them all? Could he have any more? What's to stop him from leaving the country? I woudn't be surprised to see all or most of these players flee the US in the coming months. They have mother Russia waiting to offer them aid and comfort...in exchange for all they know after having deep security clearances here. This is a nightmare.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/31/politics/manafort-3-passports/index.html

SergeStorms

(19,193 posts)
26. The government confiscated...
Mon Nov 6, 2017, 03:45 PM
Nov 2017

the three he had at his residence. If he doesn't have dual citizenship (and I don't believe he does) the government should have all of them. Of course, with Manafort's connections (especially Russia) he could have a forged passport already, and could be headed out of the country as soon as the Judge suspends home confinement.

Bengus81

(6,931 posts)
10. She think both are BROKE and can't go anywhere?
Mon Nov 6, 2017, 12:02 PM
Nov 2017

Meanwhile others don't even get the ankle/home treatment,they're just locked up until trial. Yeah...Justice is blind MY ASS.

Botany

(70,490 posts)
14. one little problem
Mon Nov 6, 2017, 12:17 PM
Nov 2017

But the judge said she might let them out of house arrest in a little bit.

Jackson said she was "inclined" to eventually let both Manafort and Gates out of home confinement, and was even open to allowing them to travel within the United States so they could continue their consulting work, but not overseas. "No international travel is going to be a condition of this release," she said.

SergeStorms

(19,193 posts)
29. The Judge wants....
Mon Nov 6, 2017, 03:52 PM
Nov 2017

$10 million bail for Manafort's release. Let's see, forfeit $10 million if I skip (and still have $15 million THAT THEY KNOW OF), or spend the rest of my life in jail, but get my $10 million back. I'll forfeit the $10 million, OF COURSE!

rainin

(3,011 posts)
21. Passports aren't needed
Mon Nov 6, 2017, 01:30 PM
Nov 2017

on private planes. The richest people travel without them. What happens if he disappears?

Geechie

(864 posts)
27. uh-oh
Mon Nov 6, 2017, 03:46 PM
Nov 2017

Wouldn't passports have to be handed over to the court? That just seems like common sense ... oh. Never mind!



Forgot where we were living for a minute.

 

DoctorJoJo

(1,134 posts)
33. I'm Guessing The Info She is Awaiting ...
Mon Nov 6, 2017, 05:46 PM
Nov 2017

... includes how much they can reward her for her benevolence!

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