Trump says 'hundreds more' might have died in Texas shooting if gun laws were tougher

[DonViejo]

Source: The Washington Post




By David Nakamura November 7 at 4:28 AM

SEOUL — President Trump on Tuesday asserted that tougher gun laws would not have stopped the mass shooting in Sutherland Springs, Tex., last weekend and in fact “hundreds more” would have died had another man not been able to “neutralize” the alleged killer with a gun of his own.

Asked during a news conference here whether he would entertain “extreme vetting” on guns, Trump appeared irritated by the question and suggested it was not appropriate to talk about “in the heart of South Korea.”

He then answered by saying “if we did what you are suggesting it would have made no difference three days ago.” Devin Patrick Kelley opened fire with a semiautomatic rifle, killing 26 people in a church. Another man, Stephen Willeford, later grabbed his own gun and exchanged fire with Kelley outside the church. Police found Kelley dead of a self-inflicted gunshot wound, but authorities said Willeford helped stop Kelley and called him a “hero."

Trump referred to Willeford as a “brave man” and said “if he had not had a gun, instead of having 26 dead, you would have had hundreds more dead. … It’s not going to help.”

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2017/11/07/trump-says-hundreds-more-might-have-died-in-texas-shooting-if-gun-laws-were-tougher

[William Seger]

1. Fucking moron

[dalton99a]

4. +1

[Lucky Luciano]

10. There really is nothing else to say. nt

[truthisfreedom]

2. How many full unused magazines were found?

I call total bullshit.

[Laf.La.Dem.]

3. Yet - 30- 40% of Americans approve of this person!

[Afromania]

5. proving he has absolutely no familiarity with these events other than a few bullet points on paper

guy doesn't care, he's not even pretending to.

[BlueIdaho]

20. Thats par for the course...

Trump is completely unaware - full stop.

[Drunken Irishman]

6. Hey I saw the same talking points used here on DU!

[dalton99a]

7. Thousands more might have died in Vegas if we banned bump stocks

[Liberalagogo]

8. If all weapons of any sort were banned everywhere

Billions would die.

[robbob]

16. You forgot to add:

“...eventually.”

[Liberalagogo]

18. Nope

I'm using RUMP "logic".

No eventually.

[SummerSnow]

9. bullcrap

[raccoon]

11. Trump is an irredeemable asshole. To expect logic or sense from him is like

expecting it from somebody who's drunk as a skunk.

[Bengus81]

12. Trump: Not appropriate to talk about it---well,there you go again

If that guy would have been a Mooselim Trump would NEVER shut up about it and a all encompassing travel ban. Nah...just another "disturbed" white guy.

[Initech]

13. Bull fucking shit.

This is just another way of giving us the finger and saying that they're not going to do anything. Again.

[tclambert]

14. But they will do something. They will pray . . .

that the whole issue fades away and gun sellers will donate to their campaigns.

[Sunlei]

15. Saw Stephen Willeford interview, a brave man. Next door to that church, every time he heard a shot

he knew another person was dead. He said he was scared to death, think he had his hunting rifle out and shot (from distance) the man twice as he entered his truck.

Man managed to drive away, I guess he was going after the family member(s) he didn't find at the church. Police said he suicided a couple miles away.

A witness inside the church hid under a pew after she was shot, said the killer reloaded mags a couple times, walked up and down the pews shooting more people.

Stephen Willeford is a Hero-but even if every American is armed (& brave enough to try to slay a shooter next door), it's not going to prevent the next mass murder/suicide person or the next or the next or the next.

Because America doesn't just have a gun problem- America has a major, major suicide problem.

[Grins]

17. Does he even KNOW what actually happened...?

Trump referred to Willeford as a “brave man” and said “if he had not had a gun, instead of having 26 dead, you would have had hundreds more dead.

From NPR: "Willeford says his daughter alerted him to what sounded like shots being fired at the nearby First Baptist Church. That's when he said he got his rifle out of his safe."

So he wasn't in the church, nor was he in the church parking lot where could have retrieved his rifle from the truck of his car had he stored it there. He was merely living nearby.

The killing inside the church was already over and Devin Kelly was fleeing by the time Kelly was engaged by Willeford. And there weren't "hundreds" more in the church (a church shot up so badly that the pastor doesn't think the actual physical building can ever be repaired), nor in the area who could have been targets.

This is just more of the shit that constantly dribbles down from Trump's tiny brain then mouth-shat out to the world.

And he's the president of the United States.

[Sunlei]

19. hey trump, you're the biggest user of foolish social media-ask facebook why they didn't report the

killer bragging about his gun picture on facebook- everyone knows Americas trillion dollar "National Security" ties into "Social Media" with facial recognition software, picture rec software all wrapped up with the

Trillions of dollars CIA/FBI/ Department of Defense and A MILITARY that "FAILED TO LIST" a Court Marshaled" FELON on the "NO GUNS FOR YOU" LISTING.

You're the CEO, Lead the military Mr Trump-get on their asses over this FAILURE- These deaths are your failure Mr. Trump!!!

[George II]

21. If the gun laws/regulations were observed, the Air Force would have done its job...

...and NO ONE would have been shot.

[pandr32]

22. He fails to note how small the Church and town were.

I would imagine the Church was the busiest location, too, so just where would these "hundreds more" have come from that morning if the shooter hadn't been shot at by the "hero" who supposedly helped stop the gunman after he was finished shooting and already leaving?
I am not trying to say that Willeford was not a brave man, but fail to see how he stopped hundreds more from being killed in the good-guy-with-a-gun mythology.

[niyad]

23. apart from the fact that there are only a couple of hundred people in that community, and only

about 70 in the church???????

[Javaman]

24. just the usual right wing tactic of taking the opposite of the truth

and making it into red meat for his base.

in other words: the usual bullshit.