Michigan panel OKs concealed guns in schools
Source: WBAY, ABC affiliate in Green Bay, WI
A Michigan legislative committee has voted to let people with extra training carry guns inside churches, schools and other places now off limits.
The bills were approved Tuesday, two days after a gunman killed 26 people at a Texas church. The full Senate plans to vote as early as Wednesday. Republican Gov. Rick Snyder vetoed legislation in 2012 that would have allowed concealed pistol license holders with additional training to carry in gun-free zones.
Proponents say the zones are a "target-rich environment" for mass shooters. Critics say authorizing guns in the areas would make those places less safe.
Read more: http://www.wbay.com/content/news/Michigan-panel-OKs-concealed-guns-in-schools-455919233.html
Ye gawds...
mobeau69
(11,131 posts)LisaM
(27,792 posts)My father taught in Michigan public schools his whole career. I'm glad he's retired.
rurallib
(62,373 posts)turbinetree
(24,683 posts)EXTRA TRAINING
bucolic_frolic
(43,027 posts)it would destroy the planet
so they have this controlled cultural war of attrition
please note that both are about profits
so the game hasn't really changed at all
doc03
(35,293 posts)won't pass any laws to protect us? We are going to have to take matters into our own hands
or get killed. What else can we do? I am sick of it myself, every time you go out in public you have to
look for an escape route in case a shooter opens up. I am going to start carrying a weapon myself since I can't
rely on our laws.
SFnomad
(3,473 posts)Churches, like any other business in Texas, must post appropriate 30.06/30.07 signs to ban guns from their premises. If they don't, guns are NOT banned. I do not know if this particular church had the appropriate signage or not.
billh58
(6,635 posts)security guard can play fantasy games in school or church with a real gun and kill as many innocent bystanders as possible during the allotted "active shooter" playing time.
Hangingon
(3,071 posts)billh58
(6,635 posts)Turning gun-free zones into free-fire zones just may have unintended consequences.
Hangingon
(3,071 posts)billh58
(6,635 posts)changing gun free zones (which were established for a reason) to free fire zones. YMMV...
https://www.revealnews.org/article/shootings-by-security-guards-rarely-reported-let-alone-investigated/
Hangingon
(3,071 posts)What an underwhelming article.
billh58
(6,635 posts)now it all makes sense. Have a wonderful day Bubba.
Hangingon
(3,071 posts)Surprised you were out in the daylight
BlueIdaho
(13,582 posts)More guns equals more bullets flying around the room finding more unintended targets. This was the final issue that made me decide to retire from teaching...
BootinUp
(47,053 posts)I bet those legislators won't go for it. Sad.
DetroitLegalBeagle
(1,914 posts)Guns are good to go. There is a yearly gun rights rally on Capitol grounds, most open carry assault rifles and pistols in and around the building.
[link:http://www.mlive.com/politics/index.ssf/2013/10/bring_your_guns_leave_your_sig.html|
Ironically, no protest signs allowed inside.
Also, as current Michigan law stands, people with CPL's can legally open carry inside schools and the other Gun free zones.
Doreen
(11,686 posts)If a 7 year old has had the "extra" training does that mean they get to take their gun to school? Do all of the hormone pumped teenagers get to take guns to school now? Talk about giving bullies a whole hell of a lot more power. Then there is the bullied who are legally able to bring a gun to blow away anyone who happens to give them the wrong look that day. Nothing like an angry child grabbing the gun off of teacher and blowing classmates and teacher away.
ManiacJoe
(10,136 posts)Before the "extra training" earned, the gun owner must first have a concealed carry permit (by whatever name that state uses) having passed all the background checks and training requirements for it.
Doreen
(11,686 posts)away from them? Just because it is so called concealed does not mean someone can get to it. As I said, I just see the possibility of some angry child of any age getting hold of it.
ManiacJoe
(10,136 posts)That said, if the gun is properly concealed, you would normally be in hand-to-hand combat already for someone else to grab it.
Doreen
(11,686 posts)surrounding you bouncing all over it is a possibility for them to get it. When you have a whole bunch of cute children around you doing that the last thing on your mind is combat and it also could not have anything to do with an angry child but just curiosity.
ManiacJoe
(10,136 posts)If there is no holster suitable for your situation, you may need to rethink the carrying of a gun in that situation.
This is a very common problem for women given the fashion choices (or lack there of).
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maxsolomon
(33,232 posts)I remember a security guard getting fired for having a gun in his trunk and showing it to students.
Times, they are a-changin'.
Kaleva
(36,240 posts)maxsolomon
(33,232 posts)it was a tough ghetto back then.
ManiacJoe
(10,136 posts)All the guns were lined up against one of the walls in the school office.
MosheFeingold
(3,051 posts)In NYC, for boys only. Girls had home economics.
Of course, this was prior to WWII.
(No, I am not suggesting this is a good idea. Just that it is difficult to compare events from different eras.)
jmowreader
(50,528 posts)They called it Hunter Safety, it was only three days long, and unless your parents opted you out of it, you went.
Kaleva
(36,240 posts)While it may be unlawful to carry a concealed gun in certain premises, it is legal for a CPL holder to open carry in the same.
MontanaMama
(23,294 posts)Cold War Spook
(1,279 posts)Now they are worried about everyone carrying a gun. I think that the latter will take care of the former.
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)and I'm sure any "extra training" will be rubber-stamped