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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Sun Nov 12, 2017, 11:28 AM Nov 2017

Senator denies double standard in Democrat response to Moore allegations

Source: The Hill



BY OLIVIA BEAVERS - 11/12/17 10:22 AM EST

Sen. Chris Van Hollen (D-Md.) on Sunday dismissed the notion that Democrats are applying a double standard in their responses to allegations of sexual assault against former President Bill Clinton and the recent allegations that Alabama Senate candidate Roy Moore (R) had a sexual encounter with an underage woman.

"I don’t think there is any double standard here," Van Hollen said on "Fox News Sunday."

"You're also talking in this case, you know, about allegations of child sexual abuse. We know what the allegations are. The people of Alabama will have to look at the facts, search their conscience, and make a decision," he continued. Host Chris Wallace pointed out that Democrats elected Clinton as president even after allegations of sexual assault and harassment were made against him.

He also added that there is a strong likelihood Clinton lied about having an sexual relationship with his former intern Monica Lewinsky as president.

Read more: http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/359990-dem-senator-there-is-not-a-double-standard-with-moore-allegations



Top Dem calls on Trump to speak out about Moore

BY MALLORY SHELBOURNE - 11/12/17 10:15 AM EST

Senate Minority Whip Dick Durbin (D-Ill.) in a Sunday show interview called on President Trump to speak out about the allegations levied against Alabama Republican Senate nominee Roy Moore.

“President Trump is the leader of the Republican Party in America,” Durbin told CNN’s “State of the Union.”

Durbin argued Trump has a responsibility to “say more and do more,” noting other members of the GOP who have called on Moore to step aside from the Senate race if the allegations prove true. “It’s time for the president to do the same,” Durbin said.

Moore has denied that he had sexual contact with a 14-year-old girl in 1979 when he was 32. The allegation was reported by The Washington Post, which also spoke to three other women who said Moore attempted to court them during the same time period, when they were between 16 and 18 years old.

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http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/359989-durbin-calls-on-trump-to-speak-out-about-moore
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Senator denies double standard in Democrat response to Moore allegations (Original Post) DonViejo Nov 2017 OP
"DEMOCRAT" response? George II Nov 2017 #1
The Hill has adopted the Fox/Limbsugh derisive practice of using Democrat as an adjective. SunSeeker Nov 2017 #15
The "Democrat" thing was actually resurrected by Joseph McCarthy in the 1950s, it was dormant.... George II Nov 2017 #16
You should emphasize the "lic" syllable the way they emphasize the "rat" syllable. SunSeeker Nov 2017 #17
I just call them Retrumplicans maxrandb Nov 2017 #18
How about Pedo-Publican for the ReTrumplican Party? maxrandb Nov 2017 #19
Was Monica 14 years old? underpants Nov 2017 #2
I believe Monica was 22 years old at the time of the affair. A consenting adult.nt PearliePoo2 Nov 2017 #3
Not to diminish what Clinton did (which was wrong) but I believe Lewinsky was the one... George II Nov 2017 #4
Yes by all accounts underpants Nov 2017 #8
Exactly, I didn't really want to "blame" her, but she was an equal partner in the affair.... George II Nov 2017 #10
I remember reading the transcript of her testimony in the Washington Post MiniMe Nov 2017 #14
Republicans code of ethics PatSeg Nov 2017 #5
The only question the Republicans need to answer is this: Fla Dem Nov 2017 #6
That would be Polly Hennessey Nov 2017 #7
The double standard is "Pizzagate" and "Mary was a teenager" Thor_MN Nov 2017 #9
And what Clinton did.... SergeStorms Nov 2017 #11
Amazing! MyOwnPeace Nov 2017 #12
Alabama Senate candidate Roy Moore (R) is a fucking pedophile.There are witness victims & Mother of Sunlei Nov 2017 #13

SunSeeker

(51,514 posts)
15. The Hill has adopted the Fox/Limbsugh derisive practice of using Democrat as an adjective.
Sun Nov 12, 2017, 03:56 PM
Nov 2017

Fucking sickening.

George II

(67,782 posts)
16. The "Democrat" thing was actually resurrected by Joseph McCarthy in the 1950s, it was dormant....
Sun Nov 12, 2017, 04:26 PM
Nov 2017

...going back to the early 20th century.

I hate it, as do most Democrats. I've taken at times to referring to the other party as the "republic party".

underpants

(182,626 posts)
2. Was Monica 14 years old?
Sun Nov 12, 2017, 11:38 AM
Nov 2017

Was she even a teenager?

This was after he'd been re-elected, correct?
How did Republicans react to allegations against Clarence Thomas?

George II

(67,782 posts)
4. Not to diminish what Clinton did (which was wrong) but I believe Lewinsky was the one...
Sun Nov 12, 2017, 11:45 AM
Nov 2017

...who pursued Clinton and initiated the affair.

And as noted below, she was a consenting adult.

underpants

(182,626 posts)
8. Yes by all accounts
Sun Nov 12, 2017, 11:59 AM
Nov 2017

She did. I left that out of my response because I didn't want to sound like I was blaming just her. I don't think you are either.

Literally Fox News has nothing except ".....but Clinton!!!"

George II

(67,782 posts)
10. Exactly, I didn't really want to "blame" her, but she was an equal partner in the affair....
Sun Nov 12, 2017, 12:09 PM
Nov 2017

....Clinton didn't force himself on her. Other than it being an adulterous affair there was no crime committed.

MiniMe

(21,709 posts)
14. I remember reading the transcript of her testimony in the Washington Post
Sun Nov 12, 2017, 02:07 PM
Nov 2017

She was definitely the one pursuing him. Was mad at Clinton at the time, because he knew better, it was a dumb thing to do. But I don't think a 14 year old would would have the same savvy or desire.

PatSeg

(47,279 posts)
5. Republicans code of ethics
Sun Nov 12, 2017, 11:46 AM
Nov 2017

only applies to their adversaries. There is a big difference between being a womanizer and a pedophile, but then again, there is a huge difference between being a Democrat and a republican.

Fla Dem

(23,590 posts)
6. The only question the Republicans need to answer is this:
Sun Nov 12, 2017, 11:50 AM
Nov 2017

"Would you want your teenage daughter or granddaughter to be left alone with Roy Moore?"

 

Thor_MN

(11,843 posts)
9. The double standard is "Pizzagate" and "Mary was a teenager"
Sun Nov 12, 2017, 12:06 PM
Nov 2017

Outrage over a completely ridiculous conspiracy theory and "meh" over the actual sexual abuse of a 14 year old.

SergeStorms

(19,186 posts)
11. And what Clinton did....
Sun Nov 12, 2017, 12:54 PM
Nov 2017

nearly 20 years ago has fuck all to do with Roy Moore's fitness to be a Senator! Clinton's "impeachable offense" was investigated thoroughly (to the tune of $60 million or so) and the Republicans "impeached" him, in what turned out to be much ado about nothing. Oh, and Clinton/Lewinsky was consensual, but still unethical. Moore is a sexual predator preying on underage girls.

Chris Wallace should be drawn and quartered for attempting to draw an equivalency between the two.

MyOwnPeace

(16,919 posts)
12. Amazing!
Sun Nov 12, 2017, 01:06 PM
Nov 2017

"Chris Wallace should be drawn and quartered for attempting to draw an equivalency between the two."

The extremes they will go to in order to defend what is so blatantly wrong!

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
13. Alabama Senate candidate Roy Moore (R) is a fucking pedophile.There are witness victims & Mother of
Sun Nov 12, 2017, 01:15 PM
Nov 2017

victim approached in court by Moore to "sit with her child!" Moore shopped for children while at work!

I don't understand how any person, from any party could even back this creep for anything.

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