Roy Moore claims accuser won't hand over yearbook evidence because it's fake

[DonViejo]

Source: The Hill




BY JULIA MANCHESTER - 11/18/17 12:27 PM EST

Alabama Senate candidate Roy Moore reportedly said the reason attorney Gloria Allred has refused to release a copy of a yearbook, which she says is evidence in the sexual misconduct allegations against Moore, proves that the allegations are not true.

“What they have alleged is completely untrue,” Moore told Aaron Klein in an interview on New York’s AM 970 "The Answer," according to a Breitbart report. The interview is set to air in full on Sunday.

Moore's comments come after Allred offered to hand over the yearbook from one of Moore's accusers to a congressional committee if the panel agreed to hold hearings on the allegations.

Allred said the yearbook confirms Moore knew her client, Beverly Young Nelson, in 1977 when she was 16 years old, and is evidence that Moore preyed on her client when she was a minor.



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[MaryMagdaline]

1. It's on now!!!

Pedo is violating two of the big 10 right there. Gloria get the book to FBI ... find some federal jurisdiction ... put his ass in jail.

[MiniMe]

2. I wouldn't hand it over to him either

Unless there was a witness keeping an eye on the yearbook.

[PJMcK]

4. In fairness, his lawyer suggested a neutral party take custody of the book

In no way am I defending anything about Moore except this one fact.

Actually, I sent Doug Jones a donation yesterday.

[Paladin]

10. I wonder what Moore's concept of a "neutral party" is.

He's completely and desperately untrustworthy, as are his legal representatives.

[niyad]

3. no, they are worried that YOU, you disgusting pedo, will fake something.

[PJMcK]

5. Here's a thought

Perhaps the reason the woman doesn't want to turn over the yearbook is because there are other personal and unrelated things written in her book.

Someone in Alabama who has a respected voice has to tell the voters of Alabama what a disaster they are courting. If they elect Moore-- for whatever reason-- they are treasonous. If implemented, his philosophy would destroy the United States.

[left-of-center2012]

6. Moore wants a high school yearbook with photos of young girls?

Nope.
Nothing weird there.

[SoCalMusicLover]

7. More Selective Amnesia By A Brain Dead Repub

He fucking knows it's his writing and signature. Has he come down with Jeff Sessions Syndrome?

These Damn LIARS, like this attorney, who try to confuse things that are completely legitimate. It makes life so frustrating.

TELL THE FUCKING TRUTH! It's your writing, and you were trolling a high school student while in your 30's. There is nothing fake about it, so quit asking for the yearbook to be analyzed by someone you probably have paid off to LIE for you.

[mikeysnot]

12. when truth is not on your side

it only leaves lies.

[7962]

8. Wolf Blitzer asked Gloria Allred several times if she could state it wasn't a fake signature

for whatever reason she just wouldn't do it. She just kept talking about Senate hearings, which seems ridiculous considering Moore isn't IN the Senate.
I believe these women, but Moore has the right to have someone examine the signature. The entire book doesn't have to be handed over, for those who think there may be some sort of "private" stuff written by others.
I've also said from the start that getting Allred involved was a huge mistake.

[Cheviteau]

9. About The Yearbook

I've never heard an attorney make absolute statements about un-vetted evidence. Blitzer was asking Allred to render verification of a signature she is unfamiliar with. Even if she is familiar with Moore's signature, She is probably unqualified to make such a call. She did exactly the correct thing.

[7962]

14. But why the insistence on a Senate hearing?

Just get a handwriting expert. Done in a day.

[underpants]

27. She's keeping it alive so it becomes part of the conversation

[7962]

30. But she's wasting time asking for something thats not going to happen. Its the "Gloria Show"

Once again, hurting her client in the process. She's making things worse. Her insistence on having a Senate hearing, which I don't even know would be held even if the Dems were in control, just to verify the signature is ridiculous.
Moore isn't in the Senate, so I don't see why they would have a hearing regarding him.

[EL34x4]

18. Allred is blowing this thing so poorly, I have to wonder if it wasn't Moore himself who hired her.

My hunch says the yearbook signature was forged. There are several inconsistencies. And when the yearbook story falls apart, the more legitimate claims from other women against Moore will fall under a cloud of suspicion as well. Right or wrong, that's how things go.

Allred mucked things up, that's for sure. She doesn't care. She got her face on TV which seems to be all she really wanted out of this.

[moda253]

19. That os preposterous. She wanted her face on TV being proven Wrong?

I think this is a ridiculous slam on Allred

[EL34x4]

23. Gloria Allred is an opportunist "celebrity lawyer" who thinks that any publicity is good publicity.

And her daughter, Lisa Bloom, is following in her footsteps.

They're not helpful.

[7962]

21. I completely agree. And if this 1 woman story falls apart,

all the others will be looked at with skepticism, especially by those "on the fence"
Its not fair, I admit, but every time I see Allred on TV with a client, my first thought is not to believe the client. And I know thats not right.

[underpants]

28. I've seen no reputable source saying there are any inconsistencies

It's clearly Moore's handwriting and signature

[EL34x4]

37. I didn't need a "reputable source" to tell me it looks shady as hell.

I used my own two eyes.

[underpants]

38. I did too

It's his signature

[kwalter66]

25. If..

If Moore wants the yearbook, he needs to actually file a lawsuit. You know, like he said he was going to do but didn't. He won't do that, because that would mean discovery and deposition. It's astounding how many people think it should just be handed over. Yeah, no, you want it, sue me for it.

[MichMary]

32. Can't a handwriting comparison

by an expert be based on a copy? The yearbook blurb has been in articles, and I would think that that an analysis of that would be enough to prove or disprove it's authenticity.

[FBaggins]

33. Not entirely

Moore has already had someone do that (IIRC). But they aren't just looking at general shapes of letters, they're evaluating strokes and pressure on the paper... as well as the ink (age, etc.). Also - the images shown so far are very low quality. In one of them, there appear to be two entirely different color inks involved... while it looks like only one in the other photo and you can't tell if it's just a trick of lighting.

[Lil Missy]

11. Since rules nor laws don't pertain to roy, I'd assume he would deface the book.

[rgbecker]

13. The note from the yearbook is online. People can analize the signature all they want.

[EL34x4]

24. The problem is they did and thought it looked fake. And it does.

I mean, seriously, the numbers are written different, the ink looks different, handwriting looks different. Moore wasn't District Attorney in 1977. It's no surprise his people want to examine it. The whole thing looks bogus as shit. In fact, it looks so obviously fake one must wonder if it wasn't a deliberate attempt to sabotage the rest of the accusers' stories against Moore.

[7962]

31. oh crap, he wasn't the D.A. when he signed it??? Definitely not good. nt

[FBaggins]

34. He was a deputy DA.

Someone who hits on teenage girls could certainly be someone who would "promote" himself to look better.

However - possibly the greatest point of concern (for me at least) is that he signed exactly that way on her divorce paperwork when he was a judge. I can't think of any reason why a judge would sign "DA" that way... and supposedly those are his assistant's initials.

That... along with the inexplicable double-dating on the yearbook script (including very different 7's) make the claim more difficult for me to debunk.

I note that it doesn't mean that he didn't assault her. Perhaps she was scared that she wouldn't be believed and manufactured evidence to prove what she knew to be true. It could, for instance, be his unsigned inscription above and she wanted to make sure that it would be tied to him.

[7962]

35. All of that makes sense. But if it turns out to be altered, the tide will turn against the others.

Not fairly, since as far as I know none of them know each other. And their stories should be viewed on their own merit.
But hell, people are giving him a pass NOW, imagine if this signature turns out to be faked!
He'll claim its proof of a massive conspiracy against him

[FBaggins]

36. That's probably why they have resisted releasing it

Even if it's forged... there's no reason for her to admit it if she only did so to back up legitimate claims.

[marble falls]

15. The sweaty little weasel is grasping for straws. If only he could face jail

[Zorro]

16. Why wont Roy Moore take a polygraph test?

Why doesn’t anyone ask him that question? Play offense for a change.

[moda253]

20. polygraph isnt allowed in court is it?

[7962]

22. No they're not. And for good reason. Theyre not terribly hard to beat.

Especially if you really don't think you did anything wrong

[Heather MC]

17. Gloria Allred is not going to hand over her evidence without getting something big in return

So they want to see her hand they got to raise the stakes

[kwalter66]

29. She is playing like I would

Moore said he was filing a lawsuit. He didn't. Clearly his attorney is aware of what that would mean (deposition and discovery anyone) and instead held a useless press conference and made a useless demand. If I were completely innocent, I would file and get ALL of the "evidence." And if I was the one with said evidence, the ONLY way I would turn over anything was in the normal process of a court proceeding and not one minute sooner. The mere fact that his attorney/campaign manager has not filed said suit but instead held a useless press conference (pleading for campaign money) and made that useless demand speaks volumes.

[Mike Nelson]

26. Do not give...

...the yearbook to him. He will pay an expert to question the writing. That's what law teams do... they will find an expert to raise doubts.