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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Sun Nov 19, 2017, 10:32 AM Nov 2017

Bannon: Gillibrand's shot at Clinton 'an earthquake' for Dem Party

Source: The Hill



BY MAX GREENWOOD - 11/19/17 09:00 AM EST

Breitbart News chief Steve Bannon said Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand's (D-N.Y.) suggestion this week that former President Bill Clinton should have resigned amid the Monica Lewinsky scandal of the 1990s amounted to an "earthquake in the Democratic Party," and marked the "opening shot" of the 2020 Democratic presidential primaries.

"Kirsten Gillibrand's comment about Bill Clinton I think is an earthquake in the Democratic Party, because the Wall Street-Clinton junta that controls the Democratic Party has really been bulletproof," Bannon told radio host John Catsimatidis in an interview aired Sunday.

"And I think you saw the first opening shot of the 2020 primary with Gillibrand, who clearly has presidential aspirations. She put a shot right across the bow of the Clintons."

Gillibrand, whose Senate seat was once held by Hillary Clinton, said in an interview with The New York Times on Thursday that former President Clinton should have stepped down after his inappropriate relationship with Lewinsky, a White House intern at the time, came to light in the 1990s.

Read more: http://thehill.com/homenews/sunday-talk-shows/361057-gillibrands-shot-at-clinton-an-earthquake-for-dem-party



Bannon: McConnell 'picking up his game' because of our 'insurgent movement'

BY MAX GREENWOOD - 11/19/17 09:00 AM EST

Steve Bannon, the executive chair of Breitbart News and former White House chief strategist, said that Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) is "picking up his game" amid threats to his power posed by the "insurgency movement" led by President Trump.

In an interview with radio host John Catsimatidis that aired Sunday, Bannon blasted McConnell for what he described as lackluster support for Trump's agenda, but noted that the majority leader has worked more aggressively in recent weeks to confirm judicial nominees, pass a budget and push forward a tax reform plan.

"Now that he's afraid, now that he sees that the grassroots movement – whether it's in Alabama or Arizona or Tennessee or Mississippi – is going to replace his cronies like Jeff Flake and Bob Corker, now he's scared, and now he's trying to move more federal judges through the system and really trying to cleave to President Trump's plan," Bannon said.

Bannon, who left his White House post in August, has railed against McConnell – and the GOP establishment more broadly – vowing to oust him as majority leader and install lawmakers more closely aligned with Trump's brand of conservatism.

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http://thehill.com/homenews/sunday-talk-shows/361056-bannon-mcconnell-picking-up-his-game-because-of-our-insurgent
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Bannon: Gillibrand's shot at Clinton 'an earthquake' for Dem Party (Original Post) DonViejo Nov 2017 OP
Fuck you, Bannon sakabatou Nov 2017 #1
I'll say +++++ heaven05 Nov 2017 #11
I am always amazed when I see shit rolling down The Hill DURHAM D Nov 2017 #2
Yeah, it's really terrible when news and opinions we disagree with get posted on DU... DonViejo Nov 2017 #7
Hell, sometimes youll get a hide posting actual news simply because its negative 7962 Nov 2017 #13
Examples? emulatorloo Nov 2017 #19
I could give you several; 7962 Nov 2017 #22
So you don't have any examples of straight news stories that were hidden? emulatorloo Nov 2017 #42
true most of the time; 7962 Nov 2017 #46
No question, but, in this case, I understand the dissention considerin Nazi Bannon as the source. InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2017 #28
I definitely agree! Jazzgirl Nov 2017 #43
Hill's a little tricky, like Politico they enjoy stirring the pot. Doesn't mean the site is useless emulatorloo Nov 2017 #20
So You're defending Bannon's opinion on DU? blue-wave Nov 2017 #40
It's not surprising. Jazzgirl Nov 2017 #44
Well... FarPoint Nov 2017 #26
Pfft... Mike Nelson Nov 2017 #3
Hillary should... nothing's changed when it comes to KG'S stance on the issues that matter. InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2017 #29
Bannon is garbage. This is useless propaganda. bullimiami Nov 2017 #4
Yep - he lost his billionaire backer Robert Mercer FakeNoose Nov 2017 #25
That's the thing that I always wonder about. potone Nov 2017 #30
Callin' that fuck "garbage" is bein' WAYYY too kind. InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2017 #32
Max Greenwood is a GOP-Putin Hack Cryptoad Nov 2017 #5
Bullshit. nocalflea Nov 2017 #6
Hahahahahahahaha Freethinker65 Nov 2017 #8
Bannon is a fat, alcoholic, blowhard propagandist vlyons Nov 2017 #9
Well said pandr32 Nov 2017 #21
watch it with the "fat" stuff quartz007 Nov 2017 #34
An earthquake that registered about a .3 on the Richter scale Mr. Ected Nov 2017 #10
You've made Steve Bannon a very happy man, Senator Gillibrand. Paladin Nov 2017 #12
No, it's not. blue neen Nov 2017 #14
Gillibrand is tapping into the zeitgeist Politicub Nov 2017 #15
I do not agree. She needs to learn how to sidestep ambush journalists with agendas. brush Nov 2017 #31
True, a lot of people will find it hard to forgive her for that. Plus it's going to be repeatedly OnDoutside Nov 2017 #35
I couldn't disagree more. To me, Gillibrand has shown she's a Hypocrite who was more than happy lunamagica Nov 2017 #39
Complete utter bullshit. dalton99a Nov 2017 #16
Steve who? n/t KY_EnviroGuy Nov 2017 #17
Why the fuck would anyone care what a never-was hack thinks? Thor_MN Nov 2017 #18
So why does Gin Blossom get free publicity just for opening his mouth ? nt eppur_se_muova Nov 2017 #23
he is delusional Skittles Nov 2017 #24
Yawn. Still keeping your kids away from the Jews, Bannon? stopbush Nov 2017 #27
Bannon has spawned? Sen. Walter Sobchak Nov 2017 #33
This message was self-deleted by its author WinkyDink Nov 2017 #36
Ho Hum Scruffy1 Nov 2017 #37
It's not much more than a mosquito bite . . . . irritating, but soon forgotten . . . . hatrack Nov 2017 #38
That's Bannon just trying to stay relevant. nt Stellar Nov 2017 #41
Bannon is a blowhard traitor who admits that he wants to destroy the US government. Oneironaut Nov 2017 #45
 

7962

(11,841 posts)
13. Hell, sometimes youll get a hide posting actual news simply because its negative
Sun Nov 19, 2017, 12:35 PM
Nov 2017

DU has a large membership. And a good portion want an echo chamber.

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
22. I could give you several;
Sun Nov 19, 2017, 05:51 PM
Nov 2017

but then I'd get a hide, like they were hidden originally! And NOT "InfoWars" or "FoxNews" sites either.
Just simply stories about a few things a lot of people here don't want to admit is "news"
I know that won't be good enough for you, but I'm not sure how to describe it and not be punished

emulatorloo

(44,070 posts)
42. So you don't have any examples of straight news stories that were hidden?
Mon Nov 20, 2017, 09:16 PM
Nov 2017

DU's a fact-based place.

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
46. true most of the time;
Mon Nov 20, 2017, 10:47 PM
Nov 2017

yes, a fact based place to most, but if you post something factual but not popular, that the right jury gets, you'll get hidden. Before the change, you could see what was hidden if you wanted to. I've seen many laughable hides. Like middle schoolers with their feelings hurt.
Now, it merely says "post hidden" and if you didn't see it before then you never know what it was. And especially since the "don't rehash the primary" became a rule.
I had one hidden for mentioning news reported on CNN, USA Today, etc, in a thread about "current investigations" going on. And with he way things are, if I say what I may get THIS post hidden!! I've got darn near 10k posts, years here and have been called a RWer.

Jazzgirl

(3,744 posts)
43. I definitely agree!
Mon Nov 20, 2017, 09:22 PM
Nov 2017

He's the last asshole I would listen to any "news" from. It doesn't matter if I disagree, the man has no credibility so why is anything from him or Breitbart even allowed? They aren't a credible news outlet. They are definitely propaganda. Otherwise I'm gonna keep my mouth shut because.....

emulatorloo

(44,070 posts)
20. Hill's a little tricky, like Politico they enjoy stirring the pot. Doesn't mean the site is useless
Sun Nov 19, 2017, 02:29 PM
Nov 2017

but good to take the framing w a big ole boulder of salt.

That being said, Bannon's an idiot!

blue-wave

(4,344 posts)
40. So You're defending Bannon's opinion on DU?
Mon Nov 20, 2017, 01:53 AM
Nov 2017

Hmmm. I'm a democrat and I consider myself a loyal one at that. Posting Bannon's propaganda here is a whole lot worse than attempting to mix oil and water. Don, I'm very disappointed.

Mike Nelson

(9,944 posts)
3. Pfft...
Sun Nov 19, 2017, 10:36 AM
Nov 2017

...the comment wasn't good, but it wasn't the end of the world. If Kirsten is the 2020 nom, I think Hillary will be campaigning for her!

FakeNoose

(32,595 posts)
25. Yep - he lost his billionaire backer Robert Mercer
Sun Nov 19, 2017, 06:59 PM
Nov 2017

I don't think the GOP listens to him any more, and I know for sure the Democrats hate him.
Bannon might as well start his own party now, otherwise he's toast in politics.

potone

(1,701 posts)
30. That's the thing that I always wonder about.
Sun Nov 19, 2017, 07:10 PM
Nov 2017

It is only on the Republican side that there are people with no legislative experience who dictate to federal elected officials what they should do. What are his qualifications to be setting policy? None, as far as I can see. The Republicans let themselves be dictated to by the likes of Grover Norquist, Rush Limbaugh and this cretin. If they had any spines, they would tell them to get lost.

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
9. Bannon is a fat, alcoholic, blowhard propagandist
Sun Nov 19, 2017, 10:50 AM
Nov 2017

He can't ruffle my feathers. Gillebrand is entitled to her own opinion, and I am entitled to disagree with it. Clinton-Lewinski was a consentual thing. I can't even call it an affair. It was completely stupid for both parties, but they were adults. I might add that Clinton was able to keep his marriage together, which is more than we can say about the current WH occupant. And isn't Bannon a divorced man?

All this sex scandal stuff is not going away, because some men are selfish and see women as objects for sex entertainment. That is not going to change. That sex sells newspapers and web site clicks, and TV viewership is also not going to change. Muckrakers love to knock iconic people off their pedestals.

pandr32

(11,557 posts)
21. Well said
Sun Nov 19, 2017, 02:38 PM
Nov 2017

I would go one further with the "Clinton-Lewinski...thing": Monica Lewinski was victimized by Linda Tripp. Lewinski got some revenge when she testified against her, but initially the older Tripp feigned friendship with Lewinski in order to encourage her to talk about her crush and sexual contact with Bill Clinton and then tape their conversations to use against him. This part of the repeatedly brought up allegations of sexual misconduct by former president Bill Clinton is constantly dropped from the narrative. It shouldn't be. If not for this we likely would never have known about it because Monica Lewinski was not the one to accuse Bill Clinton--in fact, she initially denied them. It was Ken Starr who was doing his best to find dirt on Clinton.

Still, Clinton did have sexual contact with the smitten Lewinski, was impeached and found fine enough to return to office, repaired his relationship with his wife, Hillary, and they went on to do positive work on the planet and at home.

Hopefully, Bannon will self-destruct and Gillibrand should walk back her comments some. Her "opinion" should have remained a private one and serves no constructive purpose on the current political landscape. What, are we going to go back and accuse many wonderful former presidents? Sexual escapades happened in the White House likely since day one. That can of worms should remain sealed.

My hat's off to you for your comment--

 

quartz007

(1,216 posts)
34. watch it with the "fat" stuff
Sun Nov 19, 2017, 07:22 PM
Nov 2017

there are fat people in my family and they are very
sensitive to being called fat.

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
10. An earthquake that registered about a .3 on the Richter scale
Sun Nov 19, 2017, 10:50 AM
Nov 2017

Nothing like the way the Earth will open and swallow the entire Trump cabal when Mueller starts dishing out the indictments.

Bannon will need to come up with some other superlatives to describe that...perhaps as he himself is engulfed in the tsunami of corruption, graft and conspiracy.

Politicub

(12,165 posts)
15. Gillibrand is tapping into the zeitgeist
Sun Nov 19, 2017, 01:12 PM
Nov 2017

Many of us had a tenuous relationship with Bill Clinton. He was a brilliant politician. A flawed man and a triangular. The first baby boomer president.

I think Gillibrand is on-pitch with her comment. The wind has changed, and we are in the midst of a cultural shift in our attitudes about agency and harassment.

brush

(53,743 posts)
31. I do not agree. She needs to learn how to sidestep ambush journalists with agendas.
Sun Nov 19, 2017, 07:17 PM
Nov 2017

IMO it was foolish for her to fall into that trap and bring the whole Clinton/Lewinsky consensual affair between two adults up again instead of pivoting to Moore and trump's much more egregious and topical sexual abuse allegations.

There will be much tougher questions on the campaign trail so I question the judgment and readiness of someone so easily roped into throwing Clinton under the bus.

OnDoutside

(19,948 posts)
35. True, a lot of people will find it hard to forgive her for that. Plus it's going to be repeatedly
Sun Nov 19, 2017, 07:25 PM
Nov 2017

Thrown in her face from now on. Maybe she meant it....an odd strategy if she did.

lunamagica

(9,967 posts)
39. I couldn't disagree more. To me, Gillibrand has shown she's a Hypocrite who was more than happy
Sun Nov 19, 2017, 10:43 PM
Nov 2017

with getting support and endorsement from the Clintons when it was convenient to her. Now that she thinks "the wind has changed" she doesn't think twice about trowing Bill Clinton under the bus. Very disappointing

Many of us remember the Clinton years well, all the good work he did, and how he left the country in great shape. There was no reason for him to resign, and I'm glad he didn't.

I will never support Gillibrand, and I suspect many feel the way I do.

Response to DonViejo (Original post)

hatrack

(59,578 posts)
38. It's not much more than a mosquito bite . . . . irritating, but soon forgotten . . . .
Sun Nov 19, 2017, 10:16 PM
Nov 2017

I'd hate to see a real crisis erupt in this assclown's life - like shingles or personal bankruptcy or an outbreak of carbuncles.

"Hate to see" - maybe not quite the phrase I was looking for.

Oneironaut

(5,486 posts)
45. Bannon is a blowhard traitor who admits that he wants to destroy the US government.
Mon Nov 20, 2017, 10:12 PM
Nov 2017

Anything that weakens the government is a perceived win for him.

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