Sanders: Democrats have been 'completely shut out' of tax reform

[DonViejo]

Source: The Hill




BY JULIA MANCHESTER - 11/19/17 09:50 AM EST

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Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) pushed back on President Trump's claim that Democrats have been obstructionists on tax reform, saying on Sunday that Democrats have been shut out of the process.

"Democrats have been completely shut out of this process just as they've been shut out of the healthcare legislation process," Sanders told CNN's Jake Tapper on "State of the Union." Sanders was referring to a tweet from Trump on Saturday, in which he accused Democrats of being "obstructionists" during the tax reform process.

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Sanders called the tweet "total nonsense."

"What this legislation is about is fulfilling the promises, Republican promises, made to wealthy campaign contributors. There is a reason why the billionaire class provides hundreds of millions of dollars in campaign contributions to Republicans, and now is payback time," the senator said.





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[Irish_Dem]

1. Billionaires bribe congress with millions of dollars, congress gives it back via tax cuts.

So they just keep recycling the same millions of dollars?
Doesn't make sense, except I suppose congress members find a way to take personal cuts.

[dalton99a]

2. They're getting a helluva return on their investment

[Eyeball_Kid]

3. It's a redistribution of wealth to the upper 1%. It's not "recycling" millions.

Those millions in tax breaks come from the rest of us.

[Irish_Dem]

4. So the billionaires get a lot more money than they put into the bribery system?

I am trying to learn how this scam works exactly.

I know that the billionaires bribe congress with $millions.
Congress critters get quite wealthy passing laws favoring the 1%.
The laws passed suck money out of the economy (from the non 1%ers).

Kind of like how Putin has sucked out a lot of money from the Russian economy.
Russians have a lower standard of living than the Chinese right now.

What I don't understand is why no one is paying attention to any of this.

[subterranean]

5. You summed it up nicely.

The billionaires and corporations donate 100s of millions to campaigns, and get billions back in the form of tax breaks and deregulation. They wouldn't donate all that money if they didn't get a big return on their investment. The reduction of the corporate tax rate to 20% (while keeping the existing loopholes and deductions) and the repeal of the estate tax will be a massive windfall for the top 0.1 percent.

Will they be satisfied with that? Hell, no. Eventually they'll be coming after our Social Security and Medicare, too. They want it all.

[Irish_Dem]

6. Wow, that is quite a return on their investment. And congress gets rich too.

Senators especially become vastly wealthy when they enter office.

And yes the 1% are money hoarders. No amount of money will satisfy them.
Once they have take the 99%ers money, I assume they will turn on each other.

It is really a sickness. They will destroy everything to get their money fix.

[erronis]

7. Opioids for the masses, $s and coke/Koch for the plutos

Back in the days of innocence and Marx, it went something along the lines of 'religion for the masses'.

Opioids are simpler to distribute with little worries about religious fanatics/zealots. They can also be used to just flat-out poison the plebes to death if needed.

With the latest versions of fentanyl and carfentanil, the targets don't even know they've been given a death sentence. With justice these will make their way into the lines of white powder so enjoyed by the clubby set.

[Irish_Dem]

9. They also place us in a toxic soup, water, air, food contaminated. Lack of health care and education

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Young people with all kinds of learning disabilities and personality disruption.
Old people with dementia.

Hard for most to survive financially.

So they keep the populace sick and struggling.

And yes opioids will kill off a sizable segment.

Oh anything that harms the elite will immediately be taken care of.

[erronis]

10. Timely "fiction" from the New Yorker

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/10/02/blueprints-for-st-louis

There was really just one more thing to deal with for now, and they had both been dreading it. They had to finally sit down and look at bids from the pharmaceuticals, which were fighting their way onto the proposal, vying to be the providers of the chemical component that every memorial these days was more or less expected to have: a gentle mist to assist the emotional response of visitors and drug them into a torpor of sympathy. Not garment-rending sympathy, but something more dignified. A mood was delivered via fog. Discreetly, and mildly, with micro-doses misting through carefully arranged spouts, the way an outdoor mall in the summer might be air-conditioned. You didn’t see it and you didn’t smell it. You strolled through a field or a plaza or a series of dark marble tunnels, whatever, sipping the sorrow-laced air, and, when you finally departed, a kind of low-grade catharsis had been triggered. You were bursting with feeling. Big artistic win.
It was sponsorship and it was gross, but because it was essentially invisible, and because people genuinely seemed to seek it out—attendance had undeniably spiked—Roy and Ida had been looking the other way and letting it happen, and now they really didn’t have a choice. It was an inevitable shortcut, or even a stage of evolution, in architecture, assisting the public’s reaction and securing that most prized of currencies: human fucking feeling. How to create it, how to create it? And why not use all the help you could get?

[Irish_Dem]

11. I think the apathy mist has been released all over America. nt

Never thought I would live to see the day when no one seems to care that Russia
has taken over America.

[Podkayne K]

8. IT IS NOT TAX REFORM!

By calling it that we fall into the Greedy Ole' Pedophile's vocabulary trap. Reform means making something better. This ain't it!

Instead, we need a new moniker. Such As:

The Billionaire Enhancement Act

The No Billionaire Left Behind Act

The We Will, We Will Fuck You Act

The UR Screwed Act (Of course, these last two apply to every bill the Pukes propose)

The We Don't Pay No Stinkin' Taxes Act

The We Have a Need For Greed Act

The We Not Only Molest Your Teen Daughters but your Pitiful Bank Accounts as Well Act

The Taxes Are For Suckers Act

The We Got Ours Now We'll Get Yours Too Act

The Rich Get Richer, The Poor Get Taxes Act

The Now You See It, Now You... Who Are We Kidding, You'll Never See It Act


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