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oberliner

(58,724 posts)
Mon Nov 20, 2017, 11:25 PM Nov 2017

Report: Conyers settled wrongful dismissal complaint over 'sexual advances'

Source: The Hill

Rep. John Conyers (D-Mich.), the longest-serving current House member, reportedly settled a wrongful dismissal complaint in 2015 after a former employee accused him of firing her for resisting his "sexual advances."

Four former staffers signed affidavits, three of which were notarized, saying that Conyers, top Democrat on the House Judiciary Committee, repeatedly made engaged in unwanted sexual behavior with his female staff, BuzzFeed News reported Monday night.

Documents examined by BuzzFeed described a wide-range of inappropriate conduct, including making requests for sexual favors, caressing and touching, as well as having his staff contact and transport women they believed were sexually involved with him.

Four unnamed sources who were involved with the case confirmed to BuzzFeed News that the documents are authentic.

Read more: http://thehill.com/homenews/house/361301-report-conyers-settled-wrongful-dismissal-complaint-over-sexual-advances

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Report: Conyers settled wrongful dismissal complaint over 'sexual advances' (Original Post) oberliner Nov 2017 OP
Oh, shit... CTyankee Nov 2017 #1
Cernovich gave the documents to Buzzfeed riverwalker Nov 2017 #2
He (Cernovich) is an egomaniacal lunatic oberliner Nov 2017 #4
Cernovich is just the delivery troll, not a journalist. Someone else used him to get these docs highplainsdem Nov 2017 #7
I reported that tweet as abusive. Initech Nov 2017 #10
Buzzfeed sought and received independent verification BeyondGeography Nov 2017 #31
Too bad cilla4progress Nov 2017 #3
This message was self-deleted by its author rzemanfl Nov 2017 #39
Okay, can we stop piling on Al Franken now? There is a qualitative DIFFERENCE pnwmom Nov 2017 #5
yes. Don't see how people can't get this. 7962 Nov 2017 #13
should Conyers resign? snooper2 Nov 2017 #24
I don't know what excuse he can have for this, so I'm also leaning toward yes. n/t pnwmom Nov 2017 #45
No question, this situation is considerably worse... InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2017 #51
crap. how disappointing n/t orleans Nov 2017 #6
So upset... can't watch the news anymore. (Was bad enough after the election!) InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2017 #52
Well... FarPoint Nov 2017 #8
Like Fox News and O'Reilly. nm mr_liberal Nov 2017 #9
They agreed to an acceptable plan.... FarPoint Nov 2017 #12
Or the secret Moose and Squirrel settlement. n/t rzemanfl Nov 2017 #37
I'm going to go out on a limb and say 'unwanted sexual advances' between adults ... mr_lebowski Nov 2017 #11
True. But firing someone because they rebuffed advances TexasBushwhacker Nov 2017 #22
Just further proof that "power" is a bigger problem than a particular "party" 7962 Nov 2017 #14
I think the key take-away here is BumRushDaShow Nov 2017 #16
Well said n/t Lulu KC Nov 2017 #19
The low hanging fruit are the first to go Not Ruth Nov 2017 #27
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2017 #38
This is our ranking member on Judiciary BeyondGeography Nov 2017 #15
He was supposed to lead impeachment hearings for Shrub BumRushDaShow Nov 2017 #17
If he gets reelected? Yupster Nov 2017 #54
And how sad is that? BeyondGeography Nov 2017 #55
I know it's an unpopular opinion here, but Yupster Nov 2017 #57
Democrats can term limit ranking members on their own but they do nothing BeyondGeography Nov 2017 #58
I think it's time for a moment of silence. truthisfreedom Nov 2017 #18
What does this have to do with Russia? BeyondGeography Nov 2017 #20
For some DUers, Russia is a convenient scapegoat whenever a Dem gets in trouble. Jake Stern Nov 2017 #30
HA! 7962 Nov 2017 #48
This message was self-deleted by its author njhoneybadger Nov 2017 #28
Even Conyers? Damn IronLionZion Nov 2017 #21
So, they basically gave her a no-show job in exchange for keeping quite Jose Garcia Nov 2017 #23
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2017 #25
Conyers claiming there was no settlement Bradical79 Nov 2017 #26
Right wing hate FAKE NEWS! Abouttime Nov 2017 #29
Yes! The conspiracy started in 2015 B2G Nov 2017 #32
A 2nd woman has also come forward. Is she fake too? 7962 Nov 2017 #50
"Affidavits, three of which were notarized?" rzemanfl Nov 2017 #33
How many do you need? nt B2G Nov 2017 #34
Please read the whole post. Thank you very much and have a wonderful day. rzemanfl Nov 2017 #36
I did. B2G Nov 2017 #40
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affidavit rzemanfl Nov 2017 #41
An affidavit that is not notarized is still an affidavit oberliner Nov 2017 #42
Have it your way, this place is like Burger King these days! rzemanfl Nov 2017 #43
And a car lacking a motor is yet a car... LanternWaste Nov 2017 #44
You've been reprimanded!! 7962 Nov 2017 #49
An affidavit is a sworn statement before someone authorize to administer an oath or affirmation. It 24601 Nov 2017 #56
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2017 #35
Conyers admits financial settlement with former staffer but denies misconduct Baclava Nov 2017 #46
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2017 #47
on the positive side, good to see the system to claim a "wrongful dismissal complaint" worked. Sunlei Nov 2017 #53

riverwalker

(8,694 posts)
2. Cernovich gave the documents to Buzzfeed
Mon Nov 20, 2017, 11:31 PM
Nov 2017

Now he’s crowing about “the biggest story of the year” and now “all of Congress knows my name”


 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
4. He (Cernovich) is an egomaniacal lunatic
Mon Nov 20, 2017, 11:41 PM
Nov 2017

But the evidence here speaks for itself.

Have you read the affidavits?

highplainsdem

(48,910 posts)
7. Cernovich is just the delivery troll, not a journalist. Someone else used him to get these docs
Tue Nov 21, 2017, 12:54 AM
Nov 2017

out and try to keep the real source of the leak hidden:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029869670

BeyondGeography

(39,346 posts)
31. Buzzfeed sought and received independent verification
Tue Nov 21, 2017, 12:25 PM
Nov 2017
Buzzfeed said it first received the documents from the right-wing activist Mike Cernovich but independently verified their authenticity with four people connected with the case, including the accuser. The outlet also linked to redacted versions of the affidavits posted online.

http://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/2017/11/21/conyers-sexual-misconduct/107895986/

Response to cilla4progress (Reply #3)

pnwmom

(108,955 posts)
5. Okay, can we stop piling on Al Franken now? There is a qualitative DIFFERENCE
Mon Nov 20, 2017, 11:50 PM
Nov 2017

between the kinds of complaints being aired about him and those against Conyers, Moore, and Trump.

Anyone with common sense can see this.

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
13. yes. Don't see how people can't get this.
Tue Nov 21, 2017, 07:23 AM
Nov 2017

just as there are different levels of the same crime.

 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
24. should Conyers resign?
Tue Nov 21, 2017, 11:29 AM
Nov 2017

I'm leaning towards yes...We should have the moral majority the right wing hypocrites claim all of the time.

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,121 posts)
51. No question, this situation is considerably worse...
Tue Nov 21, 2017, 09:29 PM
Nov 2017

so disappointed to hear this about Rep. Conyers... such a strong leader on progressive issues. Ugghhh!!

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
11. I'm going to go out on a limb and say 'unwanted sexual advances' between adults ...
Tue Nov 21, 2017, 02:50 AM
Nov 2017

Are pretty significantly different from taking 14 year old's to remote homes and making them put their hands on your privates, or forcing your hands down the pants of 16 year olds ...

Not saying 'it's okay' by any stretch, but ... it's pretty different in the grand scheme of things.

I'd imagine Conyers isn't banned from any shopping malls for creeping on teenage girls.

But watch in astonishment as utterly twisted logic ensues from the right-wing as they attempt to paint the less-severe crimes perpetrated by Conyers as being far-more severe than anything Moore stands accused of ... just because he's ... well ... a Democrat, and ... that other thing.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,142 posts)
22. True. But firing someone because they rebuffed advances
Tue Nov 21, 2017, 09:39 AM
Nov 2017

is very bad as well. The settlement was just a couple of years ago. Conyers is 88.

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
14. Just further proof that "power" is a bigger problem than a particular "party"
Tue Nov 21, 2017, 07:26 AM
Nov 2017

Too many people are happy to savage one side and give a pass for their own for basically the same offense.
Whether we're talking about producers, TV personalities, Congressmen or Presidents.

BumRushDaShow

(128,455 posts)
16. I think the key take-away here is
Tue Nov 21, 2017, 07:52 AM
Nov 2017

this has always been a "societal" problem (and really, is world-wide). The various fits and starts of the "Women's Lib" movement came out of this continual and pervasive issue.

Although you do have some women who prey and harass, it's mostly a male thing and millions have done it because it was par for the course in the mentality of women being the "inferior or weaker sex", leading to the encouragement of men to establish their libido in various ways. Not all obviously did such but quite a few, even "innocently", participated in what could be considered "denigrating behavior" when it comes to women.

What we are seeing are essentially low-hanging fruit (public figures) now being excoriated for behaviors and practices that have been going on for a long long time and were considered "acceptable" by the power structure.

Response to 7962 (Reply #14)

BeyondGeography

(39,346 posts)
15. This is our ranking member on Judiciary
Tue Nov 21, 2017, 07:49 AM
Nov 2017

If we take the House and this tenured old fool is re-elected, he’s going to lead impeachment hearings...kindly stand down, asshole.

BumRushDaShow

(128,455 posts)
17. He was supposed to lead impeachment hearings for Shrub
Tue Nov 21, 2017, 08:02 AM
Nov 2017

and even wrote a whole book about it...



But we know how that went (or didn't go).

Yupster

(14,308 posts)
54. If he gets reelected?
Tue Nov 21, 2017, 11:22 PM
Nov 2017

He has been elected and reelected every two years since 1964 and the lowest percentage he's ever gotten is 77 %.

BeyondGeography

(39,346 posts)
55. And how sad is that?
Wed Nov 22, 2017, 12:33 AM
Nov 2017

It’s a safe seat, he’s 88 years old and he stopped being effective 10 years ago. Think of all the talented young Democrats who could have replaced him by now. Instead, we have to watch him game the system to try and avoid an ignoble departure, which will surely happen anyway.

Yupster

(14,308 posts)
57. I know it's an unpopular opinion here, but
Wed Nov 22, 2017, 01:37 AM
Nov 2017

I believe in term limits.

Not because of Republican versus Democratic, but because of Strom Thurmond and Bobby Byrd.

Thurmond wasn't going to be challenged by a Republican because he was a legend. He wasn't going to be beaten by a Democrat because he was a Republican in South Carolina. So he lived his last years in a hospital getting wheeled out for key votes at age 100.

Byrd wasn't going to be beaten by a Democrat because he was a legend and he wasn't going to get beaten by a Republican because it was West Virginia (how times have changed), so he could be a former Ku Klux Klansman as the President of the Senate at age 90.

It's for those situations that I'd support term limits, or how about a mandatory retirement age of 80.

BeyondGeography

(39,346 posts)
58. Democrats can term limit ranking members on their own but they do nothing
Wed Nov 22, 2017, 01:41 AM
Nov 2017

That’s how we wind up with barely coherent people like Conyers chairing committees. Part of the reason why he is receiving zero support within his own party right now is that he has overstayed his welcome and the knives are out.

truthisfreedom

(23,139 posts)
18. I think it's time for a moment of silence.
Tue Nov 21, 2017, 08:03 AM
Nov 2017

Until we can figure out just how much mother Russia is f-ing with us.

Jake Stern

(3,145 posts)
30. For some DUers, Russia is a convenient scapegoat whenever a Dem gets in trouble.
Tue Nov 21, 2017, 12:04 PM
Nov 2017

Russia didn't make John Conyers fondle his staffers. Russia didn't make Anthony Wiener send dick pics. Russia didn't make Bill repeatedly break his marital vows.

So Jan Bradyesque, "Russia, Russia, Russia!"

Response to truthisfreedom (Reply #18)

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Abouttime

(675 posts)
29. Right wing hate FAKE NEWS!
Tue Nov 21, 2017, 12:03 PM
Nov 2017

Nothing but a cheap shot hit job from the purveyors of FAKE NEWS.
Don't fall for it!
Conyers will be the chair of the house Judiciary Committee next year, he will be our man leading the way to tRump's impeachment. This is all a desperate ploy by trump to take him out.

 

B2G

(9,766 posts)
32. Yes! The conspiracy started in 2015
Tue Nov 21, 2017, 12:26 PM
Nov 2017

because these women, who signed affidavits, just KNEW Trump would be elected.

Get ahold of yourself.

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
50. A 2nd woman has also come forward. Is she fake too?
Tue Nov 21, 2017, 08:44 PM
Nov 2017

As the door swings open, this wave is going to catch many. From BOTH parties

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
42. An affidavit that is not notarized is still an affidavit
Tue Nov 21, 2017, 01:08 PM
Nov 2017

It's just an affidavit that is not notarized.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
44. And a car lacking a motor is yet a car...
Tue Nov 21, 2017, 02:40 PM
Nov 2017

And a car lacking a motor is yet a car, capable of doing so much...

24601

(3,955 posts)
56. An affidavit is a sworn statement before someone authorize to administer an oath or affirmation. It
Wed Nov 22, 2017, 01:13 AM
Nov 2017

be be a notary, but that's only one of the options. They are often administered by officers of a court who are not notaries.

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Response to Baclava (Reply #46)

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
53. on the positive side, good to see the system to claim a "wrongful dismissal complaint" worked.
Tue Nov 21, 2017, 10:34 PM
Nov 2017

system worked. The employee made a complaint, went through the process and a "settlement" was reached. A leap to call it "severance pay", it would only be severance pay if all employees received severance.

If the other woman feel they were wrongfully dismissed, they need to get a Lawyer and file claims.

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