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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Sat Nov 25, 2017, 08:05 PM Nov 2017

NYT: Trump Expressed Disbelief At Ivanka's Criticism Of Roy Moore

Source: Talking Points Memo




By MATT SHUHAM Published NOVEMBER 25, 2017 5:04 PM

President Donald Trump fumed at his daughter Ivanka Trump’s criticism of Alabama Republican Senate candidate Roy Moore, the New York Times reported Saturday, citing three unnamed staff members who heard his reaction. Ivanka Trump had said in an interview, when asked about Moore, that “there’s a special place in hell for people who prey on children.”

“Do you believe this?” Trump told several aides “in the hours after” Ivanka Trump’s comments, the Times reported. The comments were later included in an ad by Moore’s Democratic opponent, Doug Jones.

Moore has been accused by several women of pursuing relationships with them when they were teenagers and he was a grown man. One woman, Leigh Corfman, told the Washington Post in a Nov. 9 article that Moore attempted to initiate sexual contact with her when she was 14. Beverly Young Nelson alleged in a press conference days later that Moore attempted to rape her when she was 16. Moore has denied all wrongdoing.

The White House’s message on the race has changed day-to-day. Initially following the Post’s reporting, the White House said in a statement that Moore should step aside from the race if Corfman’s allegations were true. In subsequent days, White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders refused to engage with further questions about Moore, saying Alabama voters should choose their next senator, and Trump did not answer shouted questions about the race.

Read more: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/new-york-times-trump-fumed-ivanka-moore-criticism

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NYT: Trump Expressed Disbelief At Ivanka's Criticism Of Roy Moore (Original Post) DonViejo Nov 2017 OP
You condemn a child molester and your dad gets mad at you. Irish_Dem Nov 2017 #1
Ivanka's comments carry a double meaning. Sneederbunk Nov 2017 #2
Yes Trump just confirmed what she meant. nt Irish_Dem Nov 2017 #4
Oh yeah MFM008 Nov 2017 #6
I'm convinced that he molested her. yardwork Nov 2017 #19
You see, Trump has to "shut up" .. his own daughter. Stuart G Nov 2017 #3
Sexually intimate hug for daughter Ivanka keithbvadu2 Nov 2017 #5
Not only does he just "happen" to touch her like that he looks to do it. Doreen Nov 2017 #9
More rigid minded as the days roll by bucolic_frolic Nov 2017 #7
Makes you wonder if in her own way is talking about his and her Doreen Nov 2017 #8
He may have thought she was okay with what happened to her -- RandomAccess Nov 2017 #10
Uh, yeah, knowing that is his daughter is disgusting. Doreen Nov 2017 #13
That's a new one for me. Ewwwwwww uppityperson Nov 2017 #14
"But honey - he hasn't done anything I haven't done to you, sweetcheeks." sandensea Nov 2017 #11
Yup. zentrum Nov 2017 #15
Guess he thinks morals are for the underclasses dembotoz Nov 2017 #12
Saying 'theres a special place in hell ...' is de-rigeur ... but that's quite different ... mr_lebowski Nov 2017 #16
if you actually are concerned, why not spend 30 seconds looking up the full interview? Kaleva Nov 2017 #17
Okay, well I'm somewhat relieved to see that she also said ... mr_lebowski Nov 2017 #22
Moore's opponent's name is Doug Jones. Demit Nov 2017 #18
Thanks for your concern. yardwork Nov 2017 #20
The party line needs to be "all the accusations are lies" oberliner Nov 2017 #21

Stuart G

(38,414 posts)
3. You see, Trump has to "shut up" .. his own daughter.
Sat Nov 25, 2017, 08:34 PM
Nov 2017

She has an opinion about Moore, but that opinion doesn't match up with her dad. "Trump fumed at his daughter.." for expressing an honest opinion about Moore..(an opinion held by many)

And that is who Trump is, "my way, is the only way"..No consideration for opposing opinions, even his own daughter..

sure says a whole lot about Trump..what a sad piece of shit..(my apologies to those who have respect for shit)

keithbvadu2

(36,655 posts)
5. Sexually intimate hug for daughter Ivanka
Sat Nov 25, 2017, 09:10 PM
Nov 2017

Friendship hug for wife, sexually intimate hug for daughter

Body Language Expert Weighs In on Donald Trump’s Awkward RNC Stage Hugs With Melania and Ivanka

http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/donald-trump-awkwardly-hugs-melania-ivanka-expert-weighs-in-w430543
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Doreen

(11,686 posts)
9. Not only does he just "happen" to touch her like that he looks to do it.
Sat Nov 25, 2017, 10:45 PM
Nov 2017

What a sick piece of shit.

bucolic_frolic

(43,044 posts)
7. More rigid minded as the days roll by
Sat Nov 25, 2017, 09:54 PM
Nov 2017

serious hardening of the arteries

more cheeseburgers, please, and double the fries

Doreen

(11,686 posts)
8. Makes you wonder if in her own way is talking about his and her
Sat Nov 25, 2017, 10:44 PM
Nov 2017

relationship that some of us suspect. Only a person who is guilty of something like that would get upset about a comment like that.

 

RandomAccess

(5,210 posts)
10. He may have thought she was okay with what happened to her --
Sat Nov 25, 2017, 10:52 PM
Nov 2017

There are many similar photos, I'll just post this one

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
16. Saying 'theres a special place in hell ...' is de-rigeur ... but that's quite different ...
Sun Nov 26, 2017, 04:55 AM
Nov 2017

From saying "I proclaim him guilty!"

I'm kinda curious now what the rest of the interview sounded like, and the actual context of that quote.

I really hope Moore's opponent doesn't get caught in what would essentially be a lie, if he's putting out campaign ads implying that Ivanka said Moore was guilty, if in fact all she actually said was 'IF he's guilty (he's a bad dude)'.

Because those are two different scenarios. Not that *I* don't totally think he IS guilty ... but ... it may be factually inaccurate to say she was condemning Moore when she said that. Again, I dunno cause I only know that one quote.

It also could very well be that what Trump is fuming about ... is the misrepresentation of what she said, not that he's mad at his Precious.

Kaleva

(36,248 posts)
17. if you actually are concerned, why not spend 30 seconds looking up the full interview?
Sun Nov 26, 2017, 07:11 AM
Nov 2017

You would have found it in less time it took for you to write your post.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
22. Okay, well I'm somewhat relieved to see that she also said ...
Sun Nov 26, 2017, 05:29 PM
Nov 2017

"I've yet to see a valid explanation and I have no reason to doubt the victims' accounts".

Those are considerably stronger words of condemnation ... though I'd say they stop short of actually proclaiming him guilty outright.

And I'd still maintain that if you were to say ONLY that Ivanka said: "There's a special place in hell for those that prey on children" WRT her opinion on Moore, then you are not entirely being accurate, because the implication when you only quote that one piece ... is that she's unequivocally proclaimed him guilty ... when in fact, while she's clearly insinuated it, she's also left the door open to being convinced otherwise.

And knowing how much Dump despises the 'liberal media', but loves Ivanka (most likely, in the biblical sense), I'd be willing to bet he's twisted the whole subject in HIS mind to 'ZOMG the media is misreporting what my darling Daughter actually said!'.

That's all I'm getting at.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
21. The party line needs to be "all the accusations are lies"
Sun Nov 26, 2017, 09:22 AM
Nov 2017

That's the only way he can make it work.

Seems like Alabama voters are buying that.

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