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Judi Lynn

(160,516 posts)
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 06:05 PM Nov 2017

Deer hunter who killed woman is charged with manslaughter

Source: Associated Press


Updated 3:56 pm, Thursday, November 30, 2017



MAYVILLE, N.Y. (AP) — An upstate New York hunter who fatally shot a neighbor he said he mistook for a deer has been charged with manslaughter.

Thomas Jadlowski also was charged in a grand jury indictment Thursday with hunting after hours in the Chautauqua (shuh-TAH'-kwah) County town of Sherman. He was arraigned in Chautauqua County Court, where he pleaded not guilty and bail was set at $50,000.
 
Rosemary Billquist was killed while walking her dogs behind her home. Authorities say it happened after sunset, when it's illegal to hunt deer. Hundreds of people attended her funeral on Wednesday.

Jadlowski called 911 after firing a shot from his hunting pistol. He hasn't publicly commented on what happened.

Read more: http://www.chron.com/news/crime/article/Officials-to-address-case-of-hunter-who-fatally-12394001.php



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Deer hunter who killed woman is charged with manslaughter (Original Post) Judi Lynn Nov 2017 OP
How can he plead not guilty? Marthe48 Nov 2017 #1
Looking for a plea deal NickB79 Nov 2017 #3
Perhaps the charge is first degree manslaughter TexasBushwhacker Nov 2017 #13
HE MURDERED HER trueblue2007 Nov 2017 #16
because he is a gun humping asshole Skittles Nov 2017 #29
pistol? getagrip_already Nov 2017 #2
Lots of people do, actually NickB79 Nov 2017 #5
Yes they do. But not from 200 yds. Lochloosa Nov 2017 #6
Yup - one summer in college I worked for a guy who only hunted with pistols dbackjon Nov 2017 #10
Many folks are questioning 200 yd accuracy. keithbvadu2 Nov 2017 #12
Contenders are chambered in rifle calibers and accept scopes NickB79 Nov 2017 #14
200yds is nothing . stonecutter357 Nov 2017 #28
The choice of the TC is interesting, rifles are not allowed in parts of NY State... IthinkThereforeIAM Nov 2017 #17
I've read TC's are a preferred poacher's gun NickB79 Nov 2017 #22
They abuse the safety rules for use of pistols... IthinkThereforeIAM Nov 2017 #26
In Texas it's illegal to hunt deer with a handgun Xipe Totec Nov 2017 #19
Are you sure about that? sl8 Nov 2017 #24
Let's just say I heard it directly from the game warden at LBJ National Grasslands Xipe Totec Nov 2017 #25
It destroyed the victim, she had no chance to survive... Historic NY Nov 2017 #20
gun humping assholes Skittles Nov 2017 #30
Good. DashOneBravo Nov 2017 #4
I hope he does time. Cattledog Nov 2017 #7
I can't help but wonder about this... Merlot Nov 2017 #8
Yeah. I think he would have previously noticed her walking he dog at the same time everyday. alphafemale Nov 2017 #11
:) Fullduplexxx Nov 2017 #9
More info from 2nd website left-of-center2012 Nov 2017 #15
Dog steps on shotgun, shoots hunter djg21 Nov 2017 #18
I used to go hunting when I was young w/my dog... Historic NY Nov 2017 #21
He was not a deer hunter, he was an idiot with a gun... hunter Nov 2017 #23
Hope he does jail time and gets sued for every penny he has. Another armed loser. Hoyt Nov 2017 #27
Someone should tell him that's the price of freedom IronLionZion Dec 2017 #32
Lock him up Gothmog Dec 2017 #31

NickB79

(19,233 posts)
3. Looking for a plea deal
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 06:09 PM
Nov 2017

This won't see a jury IMO, unless his lawyer is total shit. He's screwed royally.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,174 posts)
13. Perhaps the charge is first degree manslaughter
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 07:11 PM
Nov 2017

and he's hoping to plead down to second degree (involuntary manslaughter).

NickB79

(19,233 posts)
5. Lots of people do, actually
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 06:13 PM
Nov 2017

My uncle used to hunt deer with a long-barreled .357 revolver. This guy was using a TC Contender, which is basically a single-shot rifle with a short barrel. Nothing like a Glock or other semi-automatic pistol.

 

dbackjon

(6,578 posts)
10. Yup - one summer in college I worked for a guy who only hunted with pistols
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 06:49 PM
Nov 2017

Said modern rifles made it too easy, took the "hunt" out of hunting.


NickB79

(19,233 posts)
14. Contenders are chambered in rifle calibers and accept scopes
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 07:13 PM
Nov 2017

3" groups at 200 yards isn't a stretch with a good rest.

IthinkThereforeIAM

(3,076 posts)
17. The choice of the TC is interesting, rifles are not allowed in parts of NY State...
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 07:35 PM
Nov 2017

... and Chautauqua county has an area where typical rifle cartridges (as used in the TC "pistol", in this incident) are not allowed.

[link:http://www.dec.ny.gov/outdoor/35010.html|

NickB79

(19,233 posts)
22. I've read TC's are a preferred poacher's gun
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 09:25 PM
Nov 2017

Easy to carry unnoticed, long range, accurate.

Throw in the fact the guy shot the victim after dark.

IthinkThereforeIAM

(3,076 posts)
26. They abuse the safety rules for use of pistols...
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 11:34 PM
Nov 2017

... a .357 cal long barrel revolver pistol has a reliable range of 60 yards. Regular pistol cartridges do not have the powder behind them for shots much further than that for big game take downs. That is what I have been trying to point out in this thread and the thread the past week concerning this topic/tragedy. And the fact that the Thompson Center was designed to bend the rules, as you state. It's a free country, you know, but someone has to always see how much they can get away with as to abuse of rules, as shown in the link I offered.

Areas with bow, crossbow, muzzleloader, slug shotgun and pistol rules tend to be densely populated, so the shorter lethal range weapons are allowed. Iowa, municipalities with deer problems, etc... have/had these restrictions for those reasons.

Xipe Totec

(43,890 posts)
19. In Texas it's illegal to hunt deer with a handgun
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 08:04 PM
Nov 2017

Even a .22 caliber rifle is illegal. It needs to be a slug of sufficient heft to guarantee a kill shot.

sl8

(13,736 posts)
24. Are you sure about that?
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 11:02 PM
Nov 2017

Googling "Texas deer hunting handgun" turns up a lot of people writing about & making videos of the practice.

Also it turned up this, in the Texas hunting regulations:
https://tpwd.texas.gov/regulations/outdoor-annual/hunting/general-regulations/means-and-methods

Firearms

Game animals and game birds may be hunted with any legal firearm, except:

white-tailed deer, mule deer, desert bighorn sheep, and pronghorn antelope may not be hunted with rimfire ammunition of any caliber.
...


It goes on to list more exceptions, but nothing about handguns.

Xipe Totec

(43,890 posts)
25. Let's just say I heard it directly from the game warden at LBJ National Grasslands
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 11:06 PM
Nov 2017

And let's not go into details.

Merlot

(9,696 posts)
8. I can't help but wonder about this...
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 06:35 PM
Nov 2017

She was in her back yard, does he live in the neighborhood as well?

 

alphafemale

(18,497 posts)
11. Yeah. I think he would have previously noticed her walking he dog at the same time everyday.
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 06:59 PM
Nov 2017

So much irresponsibility.

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
15. More info from 2nd website
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 07:29 PM
Nov 2017
Hunter charged with more serious felony in fatal shooting of Chautauqua County woman

"A Chautauqua County deer hunter was charged Thursday with second-degree manslaughter for the fatal shooting of a Sherman woman who was walking her dogs ...

A grand jury indicted Thomas B. Jadlowski, 34, on the felony charge, which carries a potential 15-year prison term ...

Second-degree manslaughter means the defendant caused the death recklessly.
He is aware that his conduct creates ... risk.

Much more at the link




 

djg21

(1,803 posts)
18. Dog steps on shotgun, shoots hunter
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 07:39 PM
Nov 2017
Authorities say a pheasant hunter in north-central Iowa was accidentally shot and wounded when a dog stepped on shotgun trigger guard and the gun fired.

. . .

Ken Lonneman, a DNR conservation officer, told CBS News that four hunters and two dogs were looking for the game birds when one of the hunters placed a loaded shotgun on the ground.

It went off when one of the dogs stepped on the trigger guard. Lonneman said it's unclear which dog discharged the shot.


https://www.cbsnews.com/news/dog-steps-on-shotgun-shoots-hunter/

Maybe there needs to be some sort of screening process to obtain a hunting license?

Historic NY

(37,449 posts)
21. I used to go hunting when I was young w/my dog...
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 08:28 PM
Nov 2017

he liked being able to run free and use his talent as a retriever. One nice sunny bright day he and I were looking for a couple pheasants, he flushed them as I went to take a shot the place opened up with shotgun pellets going in different directions. A red collared hunting dog and myself end up in the cross-fire, sheer luck kept us from harm. My dog was on the birds so they were rightfully mine..it was then I realized morons haven't got a clue about hunting, and hunting rules. The dog never came out with me again and I stopped getting a license.

hunter

(38,310 posts)
23. He was not a deer hunter, he was an idiot with a gun...
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 10:16 PM
Nov 2017

... who claims he was "hunting."

Somebody should have taken away his guns before this happened.

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