Fri Feb 9, 2018, 04:20 PM
maxsolomon (29,508 posts)
60-year-old man fatally shot in road-rage incident on Interstate 5 near Tacoma
Source: Seattle Times
< MILTON, Pierce County — Authorities say a 60-year-old man was shot and killed in a road-rage altercation with a female motorcyclist on Interstate 5 south of Seattle. Washington State Patrol spokeswoman Brooke Bova says the incident happened Thursday afternoon southbound on I-5 in Milton. Bova told The News Tribune that the 23-year-old motorcyclist and man in a car stopped in the left lane of the freeway after a dispute on the road. Witnesses told responding troopers that the incident became physical and ended when the woman shot the man while they were fighting on the ground. Bova says the woman called 911 and was detained at the scene by troopers. Bova says the man died at the scene. > Read more: https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/crime/police-woman-fatally-shoots-man-in-road-rage-incident-on-interstate-5/ Pew pew pew, America. The 60 year old man's wife was in their car. GUNS MAKE EVERYTHING WORSE.
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maxsolomon | Feb 2018 | OP |
samnsara | Feb 2018 | #1 | |
lunasun | Feb 2018 | #26 | |
iluvtennis | Feb 2018 | #2 | |
bluestarone | Feb 2018 | #6 | |
iluvtennis | Feb 2018 | #7 | |
Johnyawl | Feb 2018 | #17 | |
Stonepounder | Feb 2018 | #19 | |
Freedomofspeech | Feb 2018 | #3 | |
maxsolomon | Feb 2018 | #10 | |
C Moon | Feb 2018 | #4 | |
raccoon | Feb 2018 | #16 | |
RKP5637 | Feb 2018 | #27 | |
dalton99a | Feb 2018 | #30 | |
Bigredhunk | Feb 2018 | #5 | |
maxsolomon | Feb 2018 | #9 | |
mikeysnot | Feb 2018 | #15 | |
grantcart | Feb 2018 | #18 | |
Lonestarblue | Feb 2018 | #8 | |
fierywoman | Feb 2018 | #11 | |
sarisataka | Feb 2018 | #12 | |
maxsolomon | Feb 2018 | #13 | |
sarisataka | Feb 2018 | #14 | |
Devil Child | Feb 2018 | #22 | |
gopiscrap | Feb 2018 | #20 | |
BigmanPigman | Feb 2018 | #21 | |
YOHABLO | Feb 2018 | #23 | |
MicaelS | Feb 2018 | #25 | |
Captain Stern | Feb 2018 | #24 | |
RKP5637 | Feb 2018 | #28 | |
adnoid | Feb 2018 | #32 | |
Canoe52 | Feb 2018 | #29 | |
Ferrets are Cool | Feb 2018 | #31 |
Response to maxsolomon (Original post)
Fri Feb 9, 2018, 04:22 PM
samnsara (16,810 posts)
1. never ever never ever never pull off to the side of the road when raging!
Response to samnsara (Reply #1)
Sat Feb 10, 2018, 10:13 AM
lunasun (21,646 posts)
26. Drive to a police station or firehouse if you know the area is a rec I thought was good
Response to maxsolomon (Original post)
Fri Feb 9, 2018, 04:28 PM
iluvtennis (17,831 posts)
2. OMG, ppl really need to learn to chill. I get irritated with may a bad driver here in California
but I just blow at them if it's really bad. If it's the normal shit, you just let it go and roll. No one should lose their life over a stupid ass traffic incident.
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Response to iluvtennis (Reply #2)
Fri Feb 9, 2018, 04:40 PM
bluestarone (14,378 posts)
6. yea hear ya but sometimes all it takes is you blow your horn at them AND
they chase you down LIKE IT WAS YOUR FAULT!!! i tell you it's CRAZY out there
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Response to bluestarone (Reply #6)
Fri Feb 9, 2018, 04:43 PM
iluvtennis (17,831 posts)
7. I hear ya. I've been tailgated on the freeway before. Headed to 1st exit and got off. They
kept going as I getting off the freeway wasn't something they wanted to do.
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Response to iluvtennis (Reply #7)
Fri Feb 9, 2018, 07:24 PM
Johnyawl (3,201 posts)
17. Drive like you're invisible
Don't blow your horn; don't give people the finger; assume everybody is armed and crazy. |
Response to Johnyawl (Reply #17)
Fri Feb 9, 2018, 10:32 PM
Stonepounder (4,033 posts)
19. When I learned to drive my father taught me.
He taught me a number of things. Don't tailgate. Always be courteous, giving the other driver the right-of-way (whether it is his/her turn or not) won't cost you more than a few seconds. And always, always assume the the other driver is going to do something really stupid or rude and know what you are going to do when it happens.
That's my idea of driving like I'm invisible. |
Response to maxsolomon (Original post)
Fri Feb 9, 2018, 04:32 PM
Freedomofspeech (4,132 posts)
3. I am getting to the point that I am afraid to go anywhere.
Guns everywhere here in PA.
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Response to Freedomofspeech (Reply #3)
Fri Feb 9, 2018, 04:52 PM
maxsolomon (29,508 posts)
10. Guns are everywhere everywhere
I can't think of a place that's not saturated.
By design. |
Response to maxsolomon (Original post)
Fri Feb 9, 2018, 04:36 PM
C Moon (11,215 posts)
4. Whenever I feel road rage sneaking up on me, I think to myself
"I don't want this person to be a part of my life."
And it usually helps. Sometimes I'm still frustrated. Holding back the finger, etc is the tough part. But that is what can set it off. Just not worth it. Nobody ever wins. |
Response to C Moon (Reply #4)
Fri Feb 9, 2018, 06:47 PM
raccoon (30,652 posts)
16. "I don't want this person to be a part of my life." Never heard that, but I like it. nt
Response to raccoon (Reply #16)
Sat Feb 10, 2018, 10:14 AM
RKP5637 (64,439 posts)
27. It's sure a good way of saying it, to keep in mind. n/t
Response to C Moon (Reply #4)
Sat Feb 10, 2018, 10:35 AM
dalton99a (73,598 posts)
30. They are not worth it
Think of them as trash
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Response to maxsolomon (Original post)
Fri Feb 9, 2018, 04:38 PM
Bigredhunk (1,287 posts)
5. -
I wonder how much more "courageous" people with guns are, making this type of ending more likely(?) They're not afraid to get into with someone b/c they have their little friend with them.
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Response to Bigredhunk (Reply #5)
Fri Feb 9, 2018, 04:49 PM
maxsolomon (29,508 posts)
9. She pulled over knowing she had a gun.
I do believe it makes people take more risk in confrontations.
There's not enough information to assign blame for initiating the incident, and I have no idea what the traffic conditions were (probably bumper-to-bumper) but they both stopped and left their vehicles to escalate it. |
Response to maxsolomon (Reply #9)
Fri Feb 9, 2018, 05:37 PM
mikeysnot (4,717 posts)
15. Bingo
Always have and out.
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Response to Bigredhunk (Reply #5)
Fri Feb 9, 2018, 09:40 PM
grantcart (52,530 posts)
18. the other day someone tried to speed around me in a merge lane but got caught off and was about a
mile behind me.
They would hit the accelerator and swerve to get ahead of cars to catch up to me, I would change lanes to try and stay in the same lane so that they couldn't gain on me. Eventually they pulled up next to me in a large SUV with heavily tinted windows and was aggressively swerving into my lane. I held up my phone as if I were taking a movie on my phone. I went back to capture their license plate. They dropped back and I could see young 20 year old guys screaming at me and making menacing gestures. I kept my phone up in a position where it could clearly record their faces. I could see the people in the SUV discussing my actions. They quieted down and took the next exit off the freeway. Someday I am really going to have to figure out how to use the movie camera function on my phone. |
Response to maxsolomon (Original post)
Fri Feb 9, 2018, 04:47 PM
Lonestarblue (7,113 posts)
8. I used to honk at bad drivers, but no more.
I live in Texas, and this state thinks it’s just great for everyone to open carry and always have a gun in the car in case you need to shoot someone! It’s insane, but road rage is a serious problem here, and motocyclists are often the most vulnerable. A couple of years ago, a man near Houston thought a cyclist had cut him off so he chased him down and caused the cyclist to crash, killing him. I have lived and driven in the largest cities in New York, New Jersey, and Massachusetts—and the drivers here are the worst I have ever experienced. Every time I go out, I go into defensive mode and assume that every driver around me is going to do something stupid. And they do but I rarely use my horn. You never know when a nut will just stop and try to shoot you! One of the worst offenses here is running red lights—not just when they’re changing but also when they have changed and the cars in the other direction are already moving into an intersection. Just nuts!
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Response to maxsolomon (Original post)
Fri Feb 9, 2018, 05:05 PM
fierywoman (6,764 posts)
11. Try blowing 'em kisses instead of giving them the finger --
really freaks them out. Very fun.
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Response to maxsolomon (Original post)
Fri Feb 9, 2018, 05:12 PM
sarisataka (15,202 posts)
12. Lots of missing details
But other reports indicate when traffic came to a stop, the man pulled along side of the motorcyclist and exited his vehicle. Likely he was the aggressor and possibly she could not avoid the encounter.
Hopefully traffic cameras and witnesses can help determine if it was self defense or homicide. |
Response to sarisataka (Reply #12)
Fri Feb 9, 2018, 05:16 PM
maxsolomon (29,508 posts)
13. Great.
Now she'll be a poster child for self-defense shootings. You must be chuffed.
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Response to maxsolomon (Reply #13)
Fri Feb 9, 2018, 05:32 PM
sarisataka (15,202 posts)
14. I never take pleasure in violent death
But I will always side with the victim of an assault. I don't believe anyone should have to take a beating for the good of society.
Then again if it is not self defense I am more than willing to support full prosecution and punishment. Learned a new word today, thanks. |
Response to maxsolomon (Reply #13)
Sat Feb 10, 2018, 12:35 AM
Devil Child (2,728 posts)
22. If this was indeed a legitimate act of self-defense
Then I will be quite chuffed (thanks for the new word) when she is hopefully released without charge. We shall learn soon enough as the investigation unfolds.
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Response to maxsolomon (Original post)
Fri Feb 9, 2018, 10:58 PM
gopiscrap (22,846 posts)
20. this happened about 9 miles from
where I live and the town it happened in is NOT Tacoma it is in Milton
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Response to maxsolomon (Original post)
Fri Feb 9, 2018, 11:25 PM
BigmanPigman (48,381 posts)
21. I just had a flashback of Easy Rider
when the two rednecks went after the peaceful longhaired hippies on their motorcycles. Americans love their guns!
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Response to maxsolomon (Original post)
Sat Feb 10, 2018, 03:53 AM
YOHABLO (7,358 posts)
23. The key is to give yourself enough time to go from point A to B. Obey the speed limit. And
Let those who want to get around you do so. Ignore their middle finger gestures, and do not have any verbal exchange. Ignore them. Motorcyclists are of a different 'breed'. It's a dangerous mode of transportation.
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Response to YOHABLO (Reply #23)
Sat Feb 10, 2018, 10:09 AM
MicaelS (8,739 posts)
25. Motorcyclists tend to piss people off by just existing.
They ride machines that are fast, have quick acceleration, are noisy, and highly manueverable. Plus they often split lanes, that pisses people off, even where it is legal. The cyclist may have done something, may have done nothing.
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Response to maxsolomon (Original post)
Sat Feb 10, 2018, 07:58 AM
Captain Stern (2,056 posts)
24. I wonder why the put the age of the guy that was shot in the headline....
...and not the age of the woman that shot him.
What's so special about being 60? I guess there was a time long ago when I thought of 60-year olds as helpless, and frail. But now that I'm in my fifties, I know better. I suppose I could see them (at least for now) putting the guy's age in the headline if he was 90. |
Response to Captain Stern (Reply #24)
Sat Feb 10, 2018, 10:21 AM
RKP5637 (64,439 posts)
28. Age is often just a chronological tracking mechanism, but no indication of the fitness of people.
I have people living near me nearly 100!!!!! And they get around and work in their yards like in their 50's or less.
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Response to Captain Stern (Reply #24)
Sat Feb 10, 2018, 11:49 AM
adnoid (20 posts)
32. Mentioned in the article
She is 23.
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Response to maxsolomon (Original post)
Sat Feb 10, 2018, 10:32 AM
Canoe52 (2,884 posts)
29. She had a gun, he had a gun, but maybe more guns would have prevented this?
Maybe 4 guns, one in each of their hands? Maybe 6 guns? One in each hand and another tucked in their belt? Or maybe 8 guns? Maybe more? How many more guns needed to prevent this? A hundred guns? We really need to prevent this, and I’ve been told that more guns will prevent senseless gun violence, so please please someone, anyone!
Go ahead make my day, tell me that more guns would have prevented this, and I’ll tell you to go fuck yourself. So sick of this shit. Sick of the bullshit arguments. |
Response to maxsolomon (Original post)
Sat Feb 10, 2018, 11:08 AM
Ferrets are Cool (18,847 posts)
31. I would like to know more about the incident...
the story says that they were wrestling on the ground when he was shot. He may have instigated the entire affair...may have knocked her off her bike....make have been punching her in the face....she may have shot him in self defense.
We need to know more. * I can't read the story because it's blocked. |