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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Tue Mar 6, 2018, 10:42 AM Mar 2018

Dolphins owner: Our players will be required to stand for anthem

Source: The Hill




BY AVERY ANAPOL - 03/06/18 09:13 AM EST

Miami Dolphins owner Stephen Ross said Monday that “all of our players will be standing” for the national anthem next season.

Ross told the New York Daily News that while he originally supported players who chose to kneel during the anthem in protest of police brutality and racial inequality, he has since had a change of heart.

"Initially, I totally supported the players in what they were doing,” he said. “It's America and people should be able to really speak about their choices.”

Ross released a statement in September calling for "unifying leadership" instead of "divisiveness" in response to President Trump criticizing the players taking a knee. Some Dolphins players were among the first to kneel last season.


Read more: http://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/376904-dolphins-owner-all-of-our-players-will-stand-for-the-national-anthem

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Dolphins owner: Our players will be required to stand for anthem (Original Post) DonViejo Mar 2018 OP
Trump has invited him to maralago every weekend Chipper Chat Mar 2018 #1
but they arent required to make those touchdowns ;) samnsara Mar 2018 #2
I'm not sure that there's a correlation between touchdowns and profit. nt JustABozoOnThisBus Mar 2018 #10
Fewer people are willing to buy season tickets for a "losing" team... NurseJackie Mar 2018 #11
Detroit Lions get a big crowd every home game. JustABozoOnThisBus Mar 2018 #13
I think we can agree that not playing is the Superbowl is different than having losing season. NurseJackie Mar 2018 #14
Are you suggesting MichMary Mar 2018 #15
It's unenforceable DeminPennswoods Mar 2018 #3
my first question also rurallib Mar 2018 #30
Well I'm not going to any Dolphin games this year HopeAgain Mar 2018 #4
So you just decided to throw out the first amendment, at a stadium that was paid for by taxpayers turbinetree Mar 2018 #5
In fairness genxlib Mar 2018 #20
So Russia picked the POTUS, the V.P. and Sec. of State and rigged the elections but the important .. Botany Mar 2018 #6
So patriotic. It's almost as bad as forcing people to stand for the pledge (loyalty oaths) AtheistCrusader Mar 2018 #7
Unless they opt The Wizard Mar 2018 #8
If I were on this dude's team, I'd ask him: Aristus Mar 2018 #9
nothing but a tRUMP shadow bluestarone Mar 2018 #12
No problem bigworld Mar 2018 #16
Nothing says American Freedom like requiring your... LudwigPastorius Mar 2018 #17
They are representing his team Calista241 Mar 2018 #22
No one has argued otherwise against any sentiment you brought up. LanternWaste Mar 2018 #23
Dolphins owner Stephen Ross won't require standing for anthem ... FreeStateDemocrat Mar 2018 #18
Look how the simple message of BLM has devolved maxsolomon Mar 2018 #19
This has been refuted genxlib Mar 2018 #21
You can not be required to salute the flag, pledge allegiance or stand for the anthem. oNobodyo Mar 2018 #24
Sure they can MichMan Mar 2018 #31
What is he going to do if the best players kneel? alarimer Mar 2018 #25
This is not good at all. damn. riversedge Mar 2018 #26
Solution: Stop playing the anthem. dchill Mar 2018 #27
I'm getting sick of watching the NFL games anyway. democratisphere Mar 2018 #28
OMG, will they ever stop beating this dead horse? Initech Mar 2018 #29

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
11. Fewer people are willing to buy season tickets for a "losing" team...
Tue Mar 6, 2018, 11:41 AM
Mar 2018

... fewer people attend teams with losing season.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,339 posts)
13. Detroit Lions get a big crowd every home game.
Tue Mar 6, 2018, 11:50 AM
Mar 2018

They haven't played in a Superbowl since, well, never.

But, much of the profit comes from media money, split among the teams. I don't know if winning affects the split for a regular season. There may be more money for teams in the post-season.

Go, Lions.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
14. I think we can agree that not playing is the Superbowl is different than having losing season.
Tue Mar 6, 2018, 12:35 PM
Mar 2018

The Lions’ attendance surge is probably more attributable to last year’s success. They went 9-7 and made the playoffs in 2016, with six of those wins coming at home. They also spent big in the offseason, signing two marquee free agents in Rick Wagner and T.J. Lang, and entered the 2017 season with their sights set on a division title. Another key development: Ford Field underwent $100 million in renovations, including the addition of two massive video boards behind each end zone. The spruced-up stadium has been an attraction like never before.



Go, Browns!

MichMary

(1,714 posts)
15. Are you suggesting
Tue Mar 6, 2018, 01:02 PM
Mar 2018

that players would stop playing to win just because they have to stand for a stupid song?

That wouldn't exactly be a great career move.

DeminPennswoods

(15,285 posts)
3. It's unenforceable
Tue Mar 6, 2018, 10:49 AM
Mar 2018

What's he going to do if the stars and best players don't stand? Release or suspend them?

rurallib

(62,408 posts)
30. my first question also
Wed Mar 7, 2018, 11:02 AM
Mar 2018

Does he force the coach to bench them?
Does he cut them from the team?

Does he trade them in a fire sale trade?
Does he tell the rest of the team to ostracize him?

HopeAgain

(4,407 posts)
4. Well I'm not going to any Dolphin games this year
Tue Mar 6, 2018, 10:49 AM
Mar 2018

Ross might want to put together a real organization because there aren't going to be anyone in the standing in the stands watching that sorry-ass team anyway.

turbinetree

(24,695 posts)
5. So you just decided to throw out the first amendment, at a stadium that was paid for by taxpayers
Tue Mar 6, 2018, 10:51 AM
Mar 2018

........................your a "little dictator", what other tax breaks did you get to make millions off taxpayers............a lot.

So you think that this stadium is your private little state.......................wrong.................

I don't want the players to stand for a national anthem---------------its a fucking racists song...............

What are you paying for part time employees, health benefits, at the tax payer funded stadium................



November 2018 cannot get here fast enough

genxlib

(5,524 posts)
20. In fairness
Tue Mar 6, 2018, 03:10 PM
Mar 2018

Ross is one of the few owners that has generally paid for his stadium. The most recent major renovation was $350 million on his dime.

I don't like his position at all but wanted to be fair on unrelated financing issues.

Botany

(70,501 posts)
6. So Russia picked the POTUS, the V.P. and Sec. of State and rigged the elections but the important ..
Tue Mar 6, 2018, 10:52 AM
Mar 2018

.... thing is standing for the national anthem? Please this a wedge issue being pushed by
the right and Russia. Stephen Ross is trying to give Trump cover w/this bullshit over a
"non-problem."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/lawmaker-russian-trolls-trying-to-sow-discord-in-nfl-kneeling-debate/2017/09/27/5f46dce0-a3b0-11e7-ade1-76d061d56efa_story.html?utm_term=.6b6998a5b2cd

Lawmaker: Russian trolls trying to sow discord in NFL kneeling debate

Aristus

(66,327 posts)
9. If I were on this dude's team, I'd ask him:
Tue Mar 6, 2018, 11:21 AM
Mar 2018

"If the cops start murdering unarmed football team owners, would you like for me to remain indifferent?"

LudwigPastorius

(9,137 posts)
17. Nothing says American Freedom like requiring your...
Tue Mar 6, 2018, 02:05 PM
Mar 2018

workers to express their patriotism or lose their jobs.

Calista241

(5,586 posts)
22. They are representing his team
Tue Mar 6, 2018, 04:48 PM
Mar 2018

He can ask them to do whatever he wants, and as long as the team complies with laws and rules set up by the Department of Labor, everything is good.

Those players are free to quit, retire, or sign contracts for employment at other teams also.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
23. No one has argued otherwise against any sentiment you brought up.
Tue Mar 6, 2018, 04:52 PM
Mar 2018

No one has argued otherwise against any sentiment you brought up.

 

FreeStateDemocrat

(2,654 posts)
18. Dolphins owner Stephen Ross won't require standing for anthem ...
Tue Mar 6, 2018, 02:14 PM
Mar 2018

www.miamiherald.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/barry.../article203701224.html

maxsolomon

(33,320 posts)
19. Look how the simple message of BLM has devolved
Tue Mar 6, 2018, 02:55 PM
Mar 2018

the power of the Right Wing Noise Machine turned a simple demand into an attack on White People's delusions.

oNobodyo

(96 posts)
24. You can not be required to salute the flag, pledge allegiance or stand for the anthem.
Wed Mar 7, 2018, 02:08 AM
Mar 2018

And any employer that attempted to require it of you would be violating your civil rights. Also, if you're a contract employee your employer would be breaching your contract.

https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/319/624/case.html

MichMan

(11,912 posts)
31. Sure they can
Wed Mar 7, 2018, 12:47 PM
Mar 2018

Exactly what civil rights would be violated?

Do you really think this falls under the 1st Amendment? If so, should I also be allowed to scream vulgarities at my boss and expect no repercussions?

Unless the employee is bound by a contract, they are generally considered "at will " employees and can be fired for refusing to follow a company policy like that or for a myriad of other reasons

The case you linked to specifically covers school children only and not private employers

democratisphere

(17,235 posts)
28. I'm getting sick of watching the NFL games anyway.
Wed Mar 7, 2018, 10:24 AM
Mar 2018

Take away ☮️ ful protest about the freedom of speech and expression and you lose me!

Initech

(100,067 posts)
29. OMG, will they ever stop beating this dead horse?
Wed Mar 7, 2018, 10:40 AM
Mar 2018

Seriously how long can you drag out a controversy?

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