17 yo student killed at Alabama HS
Source: Raw Story
One student is dead and two other are injured after a shooting at a Birmingham, Alabama high school police categorized as accidental on Wednesday.
The Washington Post reported that police issued a statement saying the shooting happened during dismissal at Huffman High School in the states capital. One 17-year-old student died as a result of the shooting, which took place exactly three weeks after the mass shooting in Parkland, Florida claimed 17 lives.
And we need guns in schools!
Read more: https://www.rawstory.com/2018/03/17-year-old-student-killed-accidental-shooting-alabama-high-school/
dhol82
(9,351 posts)I must be psychic.
ffr
(22,649 posts)Tears so often. It's hard to make it through a day without shedding tears. I'm so sorry for the state of our nation.
an innocent person loses their life and a life that would probably have done a lot of good for the world because of selfish assholes .
flibbitygiblets
(7,220 posts)They never say in the article. The girl who died had been accepted to nursing school. WHY ARE THERE GUNS AT A HIGH SCHOOL???
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)we will have to wait for more details, looks like.
flibbitygiblets
(7,220 posts)NBC news is saying a 17-year old BOY was killed, and the 17-year-old girl is "critical but stable".
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/student-killed-another-critical-after-accidental-shooting-birmingham-school-n854691
Trumpdumper
(170 posts)ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)BULLSHIT!
Sam McGee
(347 posts)Not Birmingham. B'ham is the largest city in the state, which causes outsiders to think it's the capital.
Cryptoad
(8,254 posts)ffr
(22,649 posts)at their school in the upcoming March For Our Lives protest, another 17 y.o. was murdered today in an Alabama high school.
Indeed
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)idiots with GUNZ!!!
lostnfound
(16,138 posts)Hadnt been told of any argument or threat
So just an accident.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/student-killed-another-critical-after-accidental-shooting-birmingham-school-n854691
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lostnfound
(16,138 posts)Sources said a male student was "showing off" his gun when it discharged, striking the female student. He then accidentally shot himself as he was putting the gun away, according to sources. Police officials did not confirm that account, or any of the other stories making the rounds.
Sancho
(9,065 posts)This is my generic response to gun threads where people are shot and killed by the dumb or criminal possession of guns. For the record, I grew up in the South and on military bases. I was taught about firearms as a child, and I grew up hunting, was a member of the NRA, and I still own guns. In the 70s, I dropped out of the NRA because they become more radical and less interested in safety and training. Some personal experiences where people I know were involved in shootings caused me to realize that anyone could obtain and posses a gun no matter how illogical it was for them to have a gun. Also, easy access to more powerful guns, guns in the hands of children, and guns that werent secured are out of control in our society. As such, heres what I now think ought to be the requirements to possess a gun. Im not debating the legal language, I just think its the reasonable way to stop the shootings. Notice, none of this restricts the type of guns sold. This is aimed at the people who shoot others, because its clear that they should never have had a gun.
1.) Anyone in possession of a gun (whether they own it or not) should have a regularly renewed license. If you want to call it a permit, certificate, or something else that's fine.
2.) To get a license, you should have a background check, and be examined by a professional for emotional and mental stability appropriate for gun possession. It might be appropriate to require that examination to be accompanied by references from family, friends, employers, etc. This check is not to subject you to a mental health diagnosis, just check on your superficial and apparent gun-worthyness.
3.) To get the license, you should be required to take a safety course and pass a test appropriate to the type of gun you want to use.
4.) To get a license, you should be over 21. Under 21, you could only use a gun under direct supervision of a licensed person and after obtaining a learners license. Your license might be restricted if you have children or criminals or other unsafe people living in your home. (If you want to argue 18 or 25 or some other age, fine. 21 makes sense to me.)
5.) If you possess a gun, you would have to carry a liability insurance policy specifically for gun ownership - and likely you would have to provide proof of appropriate storage, security, and whatever statistical reasons that emerge that would drive the costs and ability to get insurance.
6.) You could not purchase a gun or ammunition without a license, and purchases would have a waiting period.
7.) If you possess a gun without a license, you go to jail, the gun is impounded, and a judge will have to let you go (just like a DUI).
8.) No one should carry an unsecured gun (except in a locked case, unloaded) when outside of home. Guns should be secure when transporting to a shooting event without demonstrating a special need. Their license should indicate training and special carry circumstances beyond recreational shooting (security guard, etc.). If you are carrying your gun while under the influence of drugs or alcohol, you lose your gun and license.
9.) If you buy, sell, give away, or inherit a gun, your license information should be recorded.
10.) If you accidentally discharge your gun, commit a crime, get referred by a mental health professional, are served a restraining order, etc., you should lose your license and guns until reinstated by a serious relicensing process.
Most of you know that a license is no big deal. Besides a drivers license you need a license to fish, operate a boat, or many other activities. I realize these differ by state, but that is not a reason to let anyone without a bit of sense pack a semiautomatic weapon in public, on the roads, and in schools. I think we need to make it much harder for some people to have guns.
For those who want to argue legality, please reference: The Second Amendment: A Biography by Michael Waldman