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Judi Lynn

(160,515 posts)
Thu Mar 15, 2018, 12:55 AM Mar 2018

Oklahoma death penalty: state plans to execute inmates with nitrogen gas

Source: Associated Press


Oklahoma has been unable to obtain lethal injection drugs
Attorneys and rights groups say method is experimental

Associated Press in Oklahoma City

Wed 14 Mar 2018 18.40 EDT

After trying unsuccessfully for months to obtain lethal injection drugs, Oklahoma officials said on Wednesday they plan to use nitrogen gas to execute inmates once the state resumes using the death penalty, marking the first time a US state would use the gas to carry out capital punishment.

The state attorney general, Mike Hunter, and corrections department director, Joe Allbaugh, jointly announced the plan, saying the two agencies would work together to develop new protocols over the next several months.

“We can no longer sit on the sidelines and wait on the drugs,” Hunter said. “Using nitrogen will be effective, simple to administer, easy to obtain and requires no complex medical procedures.”

Oklahoma and other states have not been able to get the drugs required for lethal injections amid opposition from drugmakers to having their products used in executions. Allbaugh said in trying to find a supply of lethal drugs, he was forced to deal with “seedy individuals” who may have had access to them.

Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/mar/14/oklahoma-death-penalty-nitrogen-gas-lethal-injection

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Oklahoma death penalty: state plans to execute inmates with nitrogen gas (Original Post) Judi Lynn Mar 2018 OP
My question is always, PoindexterOglethorpe Mar 2018 #1
death by reducing oxygen is better than via drugs kiri Mar 2018 #4
I just read that it only takes a minute to lose consciousness. Nitram Mar 2018 #8
Commandment? Not US law then. n/t Odoreida Mar 2018 #15
"The use of the nitrogen gas on unwilling subjects is entirely experimental and untested" dalton99a Mar 2018 #2
Kill. Kill. Kill. Iggo Mar 2018 #3
I'm against the death penalty Sgent Mar 2018 #5
Because historically MFM008 Mar 2018 #6
Sounds like a fast and painless way to die. Nitram Mar 2018 #7
Sounds like a fast and painless way to kill. Iggo Mar 2018 #13
The reason why it won't catch on DAngelo136 Mar 2018 #9
Big Pharma gets religion. NOMOGOP Mar 2018 #10
Zyklon-B... Toorich Mar 2018 #11
Inert gas asphyxiation is a preferred form of suicide. The_jackalope Mar 2018 #12
I have always said Old Crank Mar 2018 #14
Why doesn't Oklahoma use fracking as a means of execution? Quemado Mar 2018 #16
Hmm...not sure. Uhhh...test it on O.J first?!?! Bengus81 Mar 2018 #17

kiri

(794 posts)
4. death by reducing oxygen is better than via drugs
Thu Mar 15, 2018, 01:56 AM
Mar 2018

I oppose capital punishment, killing prisoners.

But 80% of the air we breathe is nitrogen, 19% is oxygen. Reducing the oxygen percentage slowly to about 13% results in gradual loss of consciousness, with no pain.

The prisoner goes into sleep and dies. May take about 45 minutes. Relatively humane.

Nitram

(22,776 posts)
8. I just read that it only takes a minute to lose consciousness.
Thu Mar 15, 2018, 08:21 AM
Mar 2018

Because the subject is still breathing out carbon dioxide, there is no sensation of asphyxiation. In the US, at least 80 people died due to accidental nitrogen asphyxiation between 1992 and 2002, so we do know what the effects are. Raising the alarm about its use as "experimental" is not quite accurate.

dalton99a

(81,427 posts)
2. "The use of the nitrogen gas on unwilling subjects is entirely experimental and untested"
Thu Mar 15, 2018, 01:28 AM
Mar 2018

Such a bloodthirsty bunch

Sgent

(5,857 posts)
5. I'm against the death penalty
Thu Mar 15, 2018, 02:58 AM
Mar 2018

as its used in the US (and generally), but all things considered, nitrogen gas is better than any of the alternatives -- including lethal injection.

Its the recommended method by the hemlock society and other persons.

DAngelo136

(265 posts)
9. The reason why it won't catch on
Thu Mar 15, 2018, 08:50 AM
Mar 2018

is because it is painless. In this religiously insane country and society, pain must be part of the punishment. On the other hand, we're squeamish about bloodletting. That's why we opt for more "scientific" and clinical ways of extinguishing human life.

Here's an explanation given on a YouTube video:

 

NOMOGOP

(87 posts)
10. Big Pharma gets religion.
Thu Mar 15, 2018, 09:20 AM
Mar 2018

I'm surprised Pharma isn't just charging a million x what drug cost and washes it's hands of the matter. Denying people medication for $ is NO better than phony outrage displayed by refusing execution drugs. People die/suffer either way.

The_jackalope

(1,660 posts)
12. Inert gas asphyxiation is a preferred form of suicide.
Thu Mar 15, 2018, 09:50 AM
Mar 2018

Simple, easy, pain-free and quite sure.
If I were to self-deliver, I'd use nitrogen.

That said, having the state kill unwilling people is simply barbaric.

Old Crank

(3,563 posts)
14. I have always said
Thu Mar 15, 2018, 11:20 AM
Mar 2018

To drive the point home. The death penalty is only about revenge.

So the highest elected official in the state, the Governor, do the execution. 9mm with 1 round in front of the witnesses.

He signs the death warrant. He pulls the trigger.

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