Miami Pedestrian Bridge Collapses, Police Say 'Mass Casualties'
Source: The Daily Beast
A pedestrian bridge under construction in at Florida International University in Miami collapsed Thursday afternoon, killing multiple people, The Miami Herald reported. The bridge covers a major highway at Southwest 8th Street near 109th Avenue, and it runs through downtown Miami. Multiple people were trapped underneath in cars. The bridge, which was just installed over the weekend, was not scheduled to open until early 2019. Reporters on the scene said police moved the media further away from the bridge just in case the rest falls down.
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FM123
(10,053 posts)I live in Broward County where Parkland is a half hour away, next to Dade county where the bridge collapse in Miami is another half hour from me, I just can't even anymore.
cilla4progress
(24,723 posts)Your heart must be in so much pain. Mine hurts for you.
Long distance hugs.
Tragic.
FM123
(10,053 posts)bucolic_frolic
(43,115 posts)engineers consulted on construction, an inspector probably certified it.
That's why it's safe. Whoops.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)This is the conceptual drawing:
http://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/community/miami-dade/west-miami-dade/wwwt0d/picture204506074/alternates/FREE_1140/IMG_View-1-comp__1__7_1_P9C6OBGT_L337097734
Apparently, someone believed the vertical column and rods were decorative.
http://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/community/miami-dade/west-miami-dade/article204506084.html
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)And I thought that case study was required teaching for construction engineers...
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)This project appears to have proceeded according to spec.
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)1. Seemingly insignificant procedural details were either sidestepped or done sloppily
2. 'Mistakes were made'
MissB
(15,805 posts)The Hyatt Regency was in the too distant past apparently.
hunter
(38,309 posts)... nobody listened to the guy who said, "Let's start with a conventional bridge. We can decorate it any way you like."
There are thousands of existing bridge designs just like this that don't fall down.
Keep It Simple Stupid.
Gore1FL
(21,117 posts)Doing so with infrastructure went out of style with Reagan.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)The span was put up a couple of days ago.
It is supposed to look like this:
What they had up was this:
Notice something missing?
exboyfil
(17,862 posts)It is OBVIOUSLY not designed to hold itself up.
Someone must have thought those cables were decorative.
dchill
(38,462 posts)Accelerated Bridge Construction is not yet perfected.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Of how the determination was made that it was capable of holding itself up.
dchill
(38,462 posts)be closed for anything involving a crane.
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LisaL
(44,973 posts)Assuming that killing a bunch of people isn't part of the innovative installation.
yardwork
(61,585 posts)Why would they construct a phase that wasn't stable? And why would they let traffic go under it????
Bernardo de La Paz
(48,986 posts)jberryhill
(62,444 posts)If you are talking about the red beams, they were part of the mobile platform that was used to hoist and move the span into position. The mobile platform was then removed, as the idea was to keep the street open for the remaining construction.
Someone with a license and degree had to have certified that the span would support itself in the interim. Someone else with a license and a degree had to have certified that it was installed to spec. One of those person(s) may end up in prison.
Bernardo de La Paz
(48,986 posts)jberryhill
(62,444 posts)....which shows the mobile platform.
The idea was to close the street - apparently an important thoroughfare - only briefly.
So someone had to have certified the span would hold its own weight prior to installation of the pylon and cables.
MissB
(15,805 posts)the end supports.
Gore1FL
(21,117 posts)Thanks for the clarification!
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The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,657 posts)It was a kind of bridge where they assemble most of it on the ground, then use cranes to put it in place. It was jut put in place last Saturday and they were still working on it.
bucolic_frolic
(43,115 posts)but qualified people are involved at every turn, they just don't turn it over to laborers and say "here's the plans, get a move on."
bluecollar2
(3,622 posts)csziggy
(34,133 posts)It was just put across the road:
Posted by Clara-Meretan Kiah × 03/14/2018 at 11:57 am
Posted by Clara-Meretan Kiah × 03/14/2018 at 11:57 am
Twelve-year-old Michelle Flores shared a special moment with her family at FIU this past Saturday: She and her sister Gabriela joined their parents, FIU alumni Leonor and Henry Flores MIS 01, to watch a 950-ton section of a pedestrian bridge swing into its permanent position across Southwest 8th Street.
Leonor Flores 98 is a project executive and one of 63 FIU alumni who work for MCM, the construction firm building the FIU-Sweetwater UniversityCity Bridge, which will further connect FIU and its northerly neighbor, the City of Sweetwater. She was excited to share her work with her family, especially Michelle, who is interested in STEM (science, technology, engineering and math) in school.
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The pedestrian bridge, which crosses Southwest 8th Street at the 109th Avenue intersection, will provide a safer crossing of the eight-lane thoroughfare for the 4,200 FIU students living in Sweetwater. Between its walkways and plazas, it will also provide 9,900 square feet of gathering and event space.
Residents of the City of Sweetwater will have increased access to all that FIU has to offer the community, including: free programming and exhibitions at the Frost Art Museum; walking trails through the FIU Nature Preserve; sports games; musical and theatrical performances at the Wertheim Performing Arts Center; and the FIU Health faculty group practice located on 109th Avenue.
More: https://news.fiu.edu/2018/03/community-gathers-to-watch-950-ton-bridge-move-across-southwest-8th-street/120395
pintobean
(18,101 posts)LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)I hope they're effective.
exboyfil
(17,862 posts)MCM Awarded the FIU Pedestrian Bridge Project
After a grueling 18 month selection process, three submittals and many sleepless nights, the MCM Civil Department secured another win! This $9.3 million project will be an iconic cable-stayed pedestrian bridge, connecting the city of Sweetwater with the northern entrance of Florida International University (FIU) over 8th Street.
This our first Design-Build with FIGG Bridge Engineers, a nationally acclaimed, award-winning firm based out of Tallahassee. FIGG has designed iconic bridges all over the country, including Boston's famous Leonard P. Zakim Bridge and Florida's Sunshine Skyway Bridge.
We're very excited about this challenging project and look forward to fostering a long and prosperous relationship with the FIGG team!
The MCM Team's blog
AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)Well, it was, until it fell down and killed people anyway.
PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)LisaL
(44,973 posts)Boxerfan
(2,533 posts)Stupid design-
The original used the cable support aka GG bridge. Without that any center support at all I can not imagine what dolt thought that would be Ok.....
Then line up multitudes of Dolts and you have this.
A basic chassis welder would have said no effin way.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Gore1FL
(21,117 posts)Poor implementation, to be sure.
I appreciate your posts on this thread. They have been informative.
LudwigPastorius
(9,126 posts)What would they think would happen?
I wouldn't be surprised to learn that the construction company was ordered to prematurely remove the supports under the bridge by some local government mucky muck so he wouldn't get complaints about traffic being impeded.
...just horrible.
FreeStateDemocrat
(2,654 posts)exboyfil
(17,862 posts)The general contractors were Rubio supporters. They hosted a fundraiser for him.
http://politicalpartytime.org/party/40278/
GreydeeThos
(958 posts)Trump does not believe in Government inspections or infrastructure spending. Welcome to life under Trump.
PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)Judi Lynn
(160,508 posts)By ABC NEWS Mar 15, 2018, 6:07 PM ET
The technique used to build the bridge that collapsed in Miami today was intended to cause less disruption and make installing new bridges easier.
The bridge that fell near Florida International University was put in place using Accelerated Bridge Construction (ABC) methods, and there is a school at the university dedicated to advancing those techniques.
Accelerated Bridge Construction a process where planners actively consider how bridge construction impacts local traffic flow and try to shift as much construction to be done in advance and off-site before moving those pieces onsite.
The Department of Transportation's Federal Highway Administration calls ABC "a paradigm shift in the project planning and procurement approach."
More:
http://abcnews.go.com/US/explaining-accelerated-bridge-construction-technique-collapsed-miami-bridge/story?id=53777995
LisaL
(44,973 posts)Innovative isn't always good. Causing mass casualties obviously isn't part of the plan.
Strelnikov_
(7,772 posts)Pictures in this thread have brought it home.
Will turn out to be a design error, in that the design was not adequate in the simple span interim configuration.
PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)was erected. Did someone miscalculate in the design or was there some error in implementation?
ucrdem
(15,512 posts)Concrete isn't light and it's an odd material to pick for a pre-fab bridge that had to be lifted into place under tight constraints. Usually concrete is poured into place after a steel framework, which is lighter and more readily prefabricated, has already been constructed.
ga_girl
(183 posts)You have to dig through the project proposal documents, but it's clear that the pylon and "cable stays" are almost decorative. The "cable stays" are in fact hollow steel tubes, bolted onto the blisters on top of the bridge and on the pylon with four bolts at each end. (pdf pg B-16)
There is no structural steel involved in the pylon and "cable stays". In fact, those were stage 5 & 6 in the erection sequence. (pdf pg B-27, B-28) Those pieces were intended to control the harmonic loads (bouncing) on the bridge from pedestrians walking back and forth. (pdf pg 18, 63)
Turns out that the bridge itself is designed as an I-beam. The canopy is the top of the I-beam, the walkway is the bottom, and the angled supports are a open plan center web of the I-beam. (pdf pg 47)
As to the cause of the collapse, the NTSB will have to determine that. But anyone who talks about the missing top work is wrong.
http://facilities.fiu.edu/projects/BT_904/MCM_FIGG_Proposal_for_FIU_Pedestrian_Bridge_9-30-2015.pdf