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Judi Lynn

(160,453 posts)
Sat Mar 24, 2018, 10:49 PM Mar 2018

Man wearing body armor with loaded gun arrested in Chicago

Source: Associated Press


Updated 8:00 pm, Saturday, March 24, 2018



CHICAGO (AP) — A man with a loaded handgun, wearing a bullet proof vest and carrying a bag of SWAT equipment authorities believe was stolen from New York City police has been arrested at Chicago's busiest train station.

Chicago police say 21-year-old Isaiah Malailua was arrested Friday morning at a Union Station ticket counter and charged with unlawful use of a weapon for wearing body armor.

Cook County Judge John Fitzgerald Lyke set bail at $100,000 and ordered Malailua, from Redding, California, to remain in the Chicago area.

Lyke says: This is troubling, to say the least, in light of what's happening in our country."

Read more: https://www.chron.com/news/crime/article/Man-wearing-body-armor-with-loaded-gun-arrested-12779346.php

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Man wearing body armor with loaded gun arrested in Chicago (Original Post) Judi Lynn Mar 2018 OP
Must be a sloppily written law for armor to count as a weapon. nt greyl Mar 2018 #1
I like that law. demigoddess Mar 2018 #2
I think I understand your first instinct to like that law. But, stop and think. bitterross Mar 2018 #5
Do you have links to the spoon and condom things? It's news to me and sounds outrageous. hedda_foil Mar 2018 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author PSPS Mar 2018 #13
the armor was stolen, is the point, i think. mopinko Mar 2018 #15
Like seizing cash without any proof of a crime. 7962 Mar 2018 #18
Yes! Which, of course Sessions just made easier. bitterross Mar 2018 #19
Arrrrggh. Thanks for the link. nt 7962 Mar 2018 #20
He had stolen equipment JI7 Mar 2018 #21
A very Russian attitude. Igel Mar 2018 #3
hihi хихи (lol) greyl Mar 2018 #6
Same thing happens in the war on drugs and sex workers. bitterross Mar 2018 #4
Okay, now you're repeating it. Can you provide documentation of these abuses? hedda_foil Mar 2018 #8
Yes, I can. bitterross Mar 2018 #9
Thanks very much, biterrross. hedda_foil Mar 2018 #10
I think the thinking is that anything that can prevent a cop from killing you rocktivity Mar 2018 #22
Here in SC, dingosatemyusername Mar 2018 #11
He was probably just going out for a coffee and wanted to be safe in Chicago. nt TwistOneUp Mar 2018 #12
He's a terrorist maxrandb Mar 2018 #14
He stole equipment from NYPD SWAT? He's GOOD... rocktivity Mar 2018 #16
'Malailua'? No wonder he was arrested. Aristus Mar 2018 #17
Wait.....He stole it from the police? LiberalLovinLug Mar 2018 #23
It might be counterfeit, black market, or have been purchased with phony ID rocktivity Mar 2018 #24
That would be more believable. LiberalLovinLug Mar 2018 #25
The story says "authorities BELIEVE" that the SWAT equipment was stolen rocktivity Mar 2018 #26
More likely taken from the trunk of a SWAT officers car. EX500rider Mar 2018 #27
 

bitterross

(4,066 posts)
5. I think I understand your first instinct to like that law. But, stop and think.
Sat Mar 24, 2018, 11:40 PM
Mar 2018

My first instinct was "Well, he can't be up to any good if he's wearing body armor and has a gun." So I get it.

Then, I stopped for a minute and thought about how the racist DA's like Jeff Sessions have turned house-hold items like possession of a spoon into possession of drug paraphernalia. How they've turned possession of condoms into prostitution charges.

Yes, surely some of those people with the spoons and the condoms were up to no good. But not all of them. I still believe in innocent until proven guilty. Though so often, it is very hard to do so.

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Igel

(35,282 posts)
3. A very Russian attitude.
Sat Mar 24, 2018, 11:34 PM
Mar 2018

The only reason you'd want defense is if you expect to have to defend against a counterattack.

Never said of the self, of course.

greyl

(22,990 posts)
6. hihi хихи (lol)
Sat Mar 24, 2018, 11:55 PM
Mar 2018

"The only reason you'd want defense is if you expect to have to defend against a counterattack."

False.

What about if you expect to have to defend against an attack? What if the law is so sloppily written that common animal handling gloves were deemed to be "weapons" by some idiot cop with an agenda?

Nothing "Russian" about fretting over sloppily written, i.e., arbitrarily applied laws.

Edit: To be clear, in the context of the subject of the thread, I'd agree that the armor should add, in some way, to the charges and suspicion of guilt. It's just dumb to classify armor as a weapon, imo.

 

bitterross

(4,066 posts)
4. Same thing happens in the war on drugs and sex workers.
Sat Mar 24, 2018, 11:36 PM
Mar 2018

Every-day items become drug paraphernalia and condoms become intent to prostitute.

Our system of justice is nothing but creative and inventive when it comes to making more people criminals. There's a huge profit in it.

rocktivity

(44,572 posts)
22. I think the thinking is that anything that can prevent a cop from killing you
Sun Mar 25, 2018, 04:23 PM
Mar 2018

Last edited Tue Mar 27, 2018, 05:19 PM - Edit history (1)

-- but makes it possible for you to kill them -- can be considered a weapon.


rocktivity

11. Here in SC,
Sun Mar 25, 2018, 02:28 AM
Mar 2018

you can be charged with intent to manufacture crack cocaine if you have baking powder and a clear glass bowl in your kitchen.

rocktivity

(44,572 posts)
16. He stole equipment from NYPD SWAT? He's GOOD...
Sun Mar 25, 2018, 11:05 AM
Mar 2018

But seriously, folks, he was carrying loaded handgun, WEARING a bullet proof vest and CARRYING a bag of SWAT equipment, I think that falls within the realm of suspicious behavior.


rocktivity

Aristus

(66,294 posts)
17. 'Malailua'? No wonder he was arrested.
Sun Mar 25, 2018, 11:31 AM
Mar 2018

If his name was Whitey Whitehead of White Plains, there would have been no arrest.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,165 posts)
23. Wait.....He stole it from the police?
Sun Mar 25, 2018, 04:51 PM
Mar 2018

How the hell does that happen? That is not explained at all. I don't see how just anyone can walk in and steal police-only equipment and walk out.

rocktivity

(44,572 posts)
24. It might be counterfeit, black market, or have been purchased with phony ID
Sun Mar 25, 2018, 06:13 PM
Mar 2018

Amazon has a tactical equipment section.

After reading about a rapist who pulled over women drivers with very authentic-looking lights on his alleged "unmarked" police car, I thought, "But how did he get the lights? You can't just walk into a store..." Half-jokingly, I did an Amazon search, and -- well, there they were...


rocktivity

LiberalLovinLug

(14,165 posts)
25. That would be more believable.
Sun Mar 25, 2018, 09:47 PM
Mar 2018

But the story clearly states he stole it from the NYPD police.

So...did he sneak in one night. Broke into a police station and then broke into the body armor lockers? That's some feat. And says something about the shoddy security at police stations.
Did he hold up a police station?
Or did he have someone on the inside to help him?

Either way this seems like at least a big a story as him getting caught with it.

rocktivity

(44,572 posts)
26. The story says "authorities BELIEVE" that the SWAT equipment was stolen
Sun Mar 25, 2018, 09:57 PM
Mar 2018

which suggests an additional motive: unless he can be proven to be in illegal possession of the gun, the charge of his wearing the bulletproof vest might not be enough. Solution: suspect him of being in possession of stolen property!


rocktivity

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