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mbusby

(823 posts)
Mon May 7, 2018, 11:38 PM May 2018

More than 30,000 nursing home eviction notices to be sent in Louisiana Thursday...

Source: USA Today

BATON ROUGE -- Louisiana's Department of Health will begin sending nursing home eviction notices Thursday to more than 30,000 residents who could lose Medicaid under the budget passed by the state House of Representatives.

"The Louisiana Department of Health is beginning the process of notifying all impacted enrollees that some people may lose their Medicaid eligibility," Department of Health spokesman Bob Johannessen said. "The goal of the department is to give notice to all affected people as soon as possible in order that they begin developing their appropriate plans."

Gov. John Bel Edwards' staff has planned a press conference Wednesday for more details, a day before the notices are set to be mailed to 37,000 Medicaid recipients in nursing homes or other long-term care facilities.

"The Department of Health told us they're sending out the letters May 10," said Mark Berger, executive director of the Louisiana Nursing Home Association, during testimony at the Senate Finance Committee meeting Monday.

...


Read more: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2018/05/07/louisiana-nursing-home-eviction-notices-could-create-mass-chaos/588867002/

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More than 30,000 nursing home eviction notices to be sent in Louisiana Thursday... (Original Post) mbusby May 2018 OP
Just in time for mother's day - nice touch jberryhill May 2018 #1
A Republican Crisis Roy Rolling May 2018 #37
Hey, Hey! Hey, HEY!!!! Grins May 2018 #48
Begin developing the appropriate plans . Wtf? drray23 May 2018 #2
My reaction is the same pandr32 May 2018 #3
They strap them into a gurney then push them in the bayou. KWR65 May 2018 #16
A majority should have family to move in with. Of course, Hortensis May 2018 #17
Many people in nursing homes require more care than a family member can provide crazycatlady May 2018 #51
Sure. Those won't be lying on the sidewalks, though, Hortensis May 2018 #60
I am afraid you are not considering the whole picture. drray23 May 2018 #74
I'm not forgetting that at all, Drray23. Hortensis May 2018 #77
Republicans have been doing this for decades. SergeStorms May 2018 #22
Totally agree! workinclasszero May 2018 #61
Republicans want poor people to die in the gutter like in India dalton99a May 2018 #4
You are 100 percent correct Bradshaw3 May 2018 #9
Yeah, what happened to..... SergeStorms May 2018 #23
You damn right they do and it's workinclasszero May 2018 #62
A change of plans is in order. nancy1942 May 2018 #5
Their new plan... mbusby May 2018 #11
What is the response of GOP Christians to this barbarism?! appalachiablue May 2018 #14
ask them if they have made modifications to their home for when grandma moves in.... dembotoz May 2018 #52
Right. If Christian GOP supporters can't care for people, then those Xians appalachiablue May 2018 #82
Right here.... workinclasszero May 2018 #63
that is literally the best political cartoon I have ever seen n/t renate May 2018 #79
+1 CrispyQ May 2018 #80
That's a great one, illustrative of the sickness and rot upon us. appalachiablue May 2018 #84
The Nazi, T-4 Euthanasia Program begun 1939 to sterilze and murder 'defectives.' appalachiablue May 2018 #90
I Can't Say What I Think I Will Get Banned From The Universe PaulX2 May 2018 #6
Plus One!!!! Bradshaw3 May 2018 #10
I'm pretty sure we're on the same wavelength. smirkymonkey May 2018 #75
Similar to the republican health plan.... Toorich May 2018 #7
The GOP plan is to bankrupt and make ill, BigmanPigman May 2018 #8
Ben Carson said a few days ago HUD residents will be paying more Bradshaw3 May 2018 #12
Brutal fascists at work eliminating the helpless. Reminds me of films appalachiablue May 2018 #13
"Useless eaters" KatyMan May 2018 #42
We all knew this was coming when the Rethugs decided to put Medicaid on the chopping block... Zoonart May 2018 #54
Takers and producers..... Was that the phrase? keithbvadu2 May 2018 #87
This administration would NEVER be compassionate to give cyanide to Doreen May 2018 #69
Oh goody. sheshe2 May 2018 #15
Show up at the homes of the legislators (and their families) and camp out. DRoseDARs May 2018 #18
Damn straight halobeam May 2018 #33
Time for Hoovervilles everybody! llmart May 2018 #45
"Hoovervilles" in the Great Depression 1930s, all over the US. For real. appalachiablue May 2018 #85
Former House Speaker Jim Tucker says, "If those notices go out, they will kill people" Elwood P Dowd May 2018 #19
"If those notices go out, they will kill people," - Mission accomplished keithbvadu2 May 2018 #88
Remember that ad with ryan pushing granny out of her wheelchair...off the cliff..? Hulk May 2018 #20
That was Alan Grayson. PoindexterOglethorpe May 2018 #21
And he used to post right here on DU: Rhiannon12866 May 2018 #25
Congratulations, you're getting your wish. Shipwack May 2018 #36
I am pretty sure he is running again. dameatball May 2018 #76
Rep. Alan Grayson (D - FL-9) Rhiannon12866 May 2018 #26
Additional Info here: KY_EnviroGuy May 2018 #24
Omg area51 May 2018 #27
Same as Hitler: different times, different people/country, different methods, but the end result is RKP5637 May 2018 #58
Trump and the GOP fascist coup are really dropping the mask workinclasszero May 2018 #64
I can't decide whether this is compassionate conservatism or tough love. LastLiberal in PalmSprings May 2018 #28
A twist: "You voted Republican, so fuck you!" Grins May 2018 #50
America is rapidly becoming a 4th world nation where cruelty has no limits. democratisphere May 2018 #29
"Bring out your dead"... Kittycow May 2018 #30
Sick little fuckers, just sick bastards every one of them, what else is there to say? Canoe52 May 2018 #31
You're speaking what republicans think about Medidicaid patients? keithbvadu2 May 2018 #89
On the plus side -- everything is clear. Heartbreakingly, utterly clear. byronius May 2018 #32
and don't forget their embrace of religion rurallib May 2018 #40
The sready March towards becoming a third world nation... HopeAgain May 2018 #34
So, it isn't just about losing a place to stay. watoos May 2018 #35
Stop complainig. Abortion and Gunz.. them's what's important. Not Granny. 3Hotdogs May 2018 #38
Welcome to Louisiana Indigent Care Laboratory bucolic_frolic May 2018 #39
Just guessing here watoos May 2018 #41
All so the Republicans can cut sales tax by one cent muriel_volestrangler May 2018 #43
"Next year's shortfall was created because..." Javaman May 2018 #44
Just guessing he means 1%. watoos May 2018 #47
There is always living under the bridge. LisaL May 2018 #46
The Democratic Party needs to send a strong message in support of the sick and elderly everywhere. mia May 2018 #49
Nice! So they're going to kick out elderly patients with Alzheimer's, diabetes, congestive heart Nitram May 2018 #53
"Heckofajob!" someone once said, oddly enough - about Louisiana! NM Grins May 2018 #55
I guess lots of older republican voting folks thought we were kidding about the granny killing GOP workinclasszero May 2018 #56
The republican plan continues to implement the culling of people in America, killing them off. RKP5637 May 2018 #57
New: *MICHIGAN MEDICAID Work Requirement Comes With A Racist Twist* appalachiablue May 2018 #92
"developing their appropriate plans" workinclasszero May 2018 #59
Probaby more than 10 thousand will be DEAD within weeks. mackdaddy May 2018 #65
This is unconscionable. liberalmuse May 2018 #66
This move should ramp up the Suicide rate in Louisiana Submariner May 2018 #67
So the state is doing this????? THEN bluestarone May 2018 #68
Oh come on people, trump needs the money for his Doreen May 2018 #70
republican family values at work Achilleaze May 2018 #71
I think that the state of Louisiana just made a giant mistake... SWBTATTReg May 2018 #72
How many of the 37,000+ recipients ... aggiesal May 2018 #73
How many are Vets?? Yeah....the CONS "support the troops" and Liburls don't........ Bengus81 May 2018 #78
Appropriate Plan - Family Members, Advocates show up MarcA May 2018 #81
Hope this adds fuel to a blue wave there beachbum bob May 2018 #83
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe May 2018 #86
Good old southern values. joshcryer May 2018 #91

Roy Rolling

(6,915 posts)
37. A Republican Crisis
Tue May 8, 2018, 07:30 AM
May 2018

They refuse to raise any of the taxes they drastically cut under Bobby Jindal. The Republican legislature is trying to damage our Democrat governor John Bel Edwards. The same LAGOP that spawned Davis Duke, David Vitter, and Steve Scalise.

They are too stupid to quit, they know nothing else but overspending on Republican items, and starving everyone else to pay for the reckless financial management.

It's the same idiocy that occupies the federal government now.

drray23

(7,627 posts)
2. Begin developing the appropriate plans . Wtf?
Mon May 7, 2018, 11:43 PM
May 2018

These people are on Medicaid because they are destitute and can't afford anything else. They have no way to "develop an appropriate plan" other than dying in the street if they are kicked out. It should be a crime to knowingly send people to their death because it's exactly what is going to happen.

KWR65

(1,098 posts)
16. They strap them into a gurney then push them in the bayou.
Tue May 8, 2018, 12:19 AM
May 2018

The Republicans are disgusting people.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
17. A majority should have family to move in with. Of course,
Tue May 8, 2018, 12:20 AM
May 2018

this would be a tremendous inconvenience at very least for most. Many wouldn't have an extra ground-floor bedroom and have to turn someplace else into a bedroom for Uncle Harry.

Some relatives would be elderly themselves. Some will never have met their elderly, newly destitute and homeless relatives.

Others may not have a nonworking adult to care for those people who can't be left alone all day. 7:1, it'd be a woman who quit her job to become caretaker, along with removing an income from the family and its contributions to, among other things, their own future retirement needs.

I'm not heartless, but GOOD. Hope it happens there, now, and becomes a wake-up call. Because if we don't get control of congress 182 days from now, it will be happening not just there but other places too. The plan is ultimate dismantling of Medicaid, Medicare, Social Security, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera.

Btw, how's the plan to dismantle the VA coming? Many vets collect Medicaid so are slated for two major hits.

And did we all hear that it's really happening, our era's shameful version of WWII's Japanese internment: We will now be now tearing frightened children away from their parents at the border and interning them separately. This is an atrocity.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
60. Sure. Those won't be lying on the sidewalks, though,
Tue May 8, 2018, 10:30 AM
May 2018

as much as some of those behind this might think this would be a quick problem solver.

The imminent threat would be to people who have some disability that keeps them from living on their own but don't currently need to be in a skilled nursing facility.

Family can drive someone with stabilized kidney failure to and from dialysis 3 times a week, to the doctor/ER when insulin levels become worrisome, give medicines to forgetful parents, etc. There are many, many millions of those alone of course. And modern technology is enabling a lot more remote and home medical care so patients can stay home with their caretakers, some of whom might come to yearn for the good old days of 3+ free hours out of the house while dialysis was going.

drray23

(7,627 posts)
74. I am afraid you are not considering the whole picture.
Tue May 8, 2018, 02:37 PM
May 2018

There is such a thing as generational poverty. Many of these people in the nursing home on Medicaid also have families that are on the brink of homelessness themselves.

I see it everyday in my area. These folks would not be able to take care of an elderly relative, let alone drive them to and from the hospital several times a week. They are working 2 to 3 jobs just to be able to survive. Sometimes they can't even afford a car. In any case, they wont be able to free themselves from work to do that.


Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
77. I'm not forgetting that at all, Drray23.
Tue May 8, 2018, 02:56 PM
May 2018

This is a major disaster in the making. Which is why I want it to happen NOW, not after the Republicans manage to hold control of congress and many state governments they are at risk of losing right now.

Now, while the numbers to be hurt are far smaller than they will become if we don't get these barbarians out of power.

These people, both the disabled and their family of all generations, are ENTITLED to Medicaid assistance. Most paid in one way or another since its inception so it would be there if needed. All generations affected have a RIGHT to that, and it's our duty to stop it being stolen from them.

But it'll help tremendously if people are shown what's being lost and what that means to them.

Btw, Trump admin just told the states NO to imposing lifetime limits on Medicaid. For the same reason they did it (for now?) -- worry about the midterm elections, I'm sorry to hear that.

SergeStorms

(19,195 posts)
22. Republicans have been doing this for decades.
Tue May 8, 2018, 01:33 AM
May 2018

In Florida they used to "evict" Medicaid patients in nursing homes to make room for patients who had better insurance or were paying cash. They'd load the Medicaid patients into cars, some in buses, and drop them off all over the cities. Sometimes they leave them at bus stations, and most often they wouldn't even change them into street clothes. They leave them in hospital garb, you know.....the gowns that leave your ass flapping in the breeze. The Florida newspapers reported on this heavily, and the authorities even caught some of these nursing home owners, and some of them got a stern talking to and maybe fined.

It's all about the money, and with the baby boomer generation in full retirement/long term healthcare mode, it's going to get a lot worse in the very near future.

These are the "good christian" Republicans, complete with "family values".

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
61. Totally agree!
Tue May 8, 2018, 10:31 AM
May 2018

This is the REAL death panel the rethugs love to screech about incessantly!

A death sentence straight from the 1% Koch bros, Mercer's, Walton's and their personal political party!

Enjoy America, Trump loves ya!

Bradshaw3

(7,513 posts)
9. You are 100 percent correct
Tue May 8, 2018, 12:01 AM
May 2018

They just don't friggin care. HUD housing residents are about to be the next in line. Tent cities and dying in the gutter is what they want. That is not hyperbole.

SergeStorms

(19,195 posts)
23. Yeah, what happened to.....
Tue May 8, 2018, 01:36 AM
May 2018

"the sanctity of life" they're so concerned with before babies are born? Republicans only care about "life" while it's still in the womb. After that they could care less. They should all pull themselves up by their bootstraps, and shit like that.

nancy1942

(635 posts)
5. A change of plans is in order.
Mon May 7, 2018, 11:50 PM
May 2018

What might be Plan B when a person is destitute? This must be that compassionate Republican thing they occasionally refer to when they all need a hearty chuckle.

dembotoz

(16,799 posts)
52. ask them if they have made modifications to their home for when grandma moves in....
Tue May 8, 2018, 10:03 AM
May 2018

and which one is gonna quit their job to care for her....

appalachiablue

(41,127 posts)
82. Right. If Christian GOP supporters can't care for people, then those Xians
Tue May 8, 2018, 03:59 PM
May 2018

CAN FUND $$$ centers and services for Medicaid recipients as 'charity,' a substitute. That'll be the day...won't happen.

appalachiablue

(41,127 posts)
90. The Nazi, T-4 Euthanasia Program begun 1939 to sterilze and murder 'defectives.'
Tue May 8, 2018, 06:44 PM
May 2018


Various eugenics policies were in effect from the late 19th c. into the 20th c. in the US, European & other countries.

Nazi Racial State Genocide, BBC
http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/worldwars/genocide/racial_state_01.shtml
 

PaulX2

(2,032 posts)
6. I Can't Say What I Think I Will Get Banned From The Universe
Mon May 7, 2018, 11:55 PM
May 2018

To call Republicans scum is an insult to pond inhabitants.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
75. I'm pretty sure we're on the same wavelength.
Tue May 8, 2018, 02:45 PM
May 2018

I really hate to think of how this is going to end up, but it's going to be ugly.

Toorich

(391 posts)
7. Similar to the republican health plan....
Mon May 7, 2018, 11:59 PM
May 2018

*Don't get sick, but if you do, hurry up and die.*
This plan is - don't get poor and old, but if you do, hurry up and die.

BigmanPigman

(51,584 posts)
8. The GOP plan is to bankrupt and make ill,
Mon May 7, 2018, 11:59 PM
May 2018

and possibly die, about half of the country. If they had their wish both would occur at the same time. Paul Ryan and Mitch will have pleasant dreams when that happens.

Bradshaw3

(7,513 posts)
12. Ben Carson said a few days ago HUD residents will be paying more
Tue May 8, 2018, 12:05 AM
May 2018

Here's the link:

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ben-carsons-hud-proposal-would-raise-rent-for-millions-in-public-housing/

Every comment in this thread about repubs and how they want to rid the world of poor people is spot on. Repubs are worse than pond scum and have to be defeated.

appalachiablue

(41,127 posts)
13. Brutal fascists at work eliminating the helpless. Reminds me of films
Tue May 8, 2018, 12:05 AM
May 2018

during WWII in Europe when medical staff assisted very ill and elderly patients with cyanide capsules to take in time before Nazi troops arrived.
----------------------
USA Today, OP Excerpt:

"Medicaid is a federal-state collaboration covering more than 70 million people, or about 1 in 5 Americans, making it the largest government health insurance program. President Obama expanded the program by allowing states to cover millions more low-income adults.
Rolling back the expansion has been a longtime goal of the GOP. The Trump administration has encouraged states to reshape their Medicaid programs, paving the way for states like Kentucky and Michigan to include *new measures like work requirements for able-bodied adults."
----------------------

~ Mme Vesuvius


Zoonart

(11,850 posts)
54. We all knew this was coming when the Rethugs decided to put Medicaid on the chopping block...
Tue May 8, 2018, 10:15 AM
May 2018

I have posted several times that the F-the Libtards voter would wake up and stop having fun burning down the Republic when Grandma and Grandpa... or Mom and Dad showed up in wheelchairs in their driveway.

This is just the beginning. Congratulations... show them what they've won, Vana.

sheshe2

(83,746 posts)
15. Oh goody.
Tue May 8, 2018, 12:17 AM
May 2018
"The goal of the department is to give notice to all affected people as soon as possible in order that they begin developing their appropriate plans."

They are giving them time to plan which bridge they will die under.

FUCK!
 

DRoseDARs

(6,810 posts)
18. Show up at the homes of the legislators (and their families) and camp out.
Tue May 8, 2018, 01:02 AM
May 2018

Resist any attempt to remove. Many of you have been given a death sentence anyway, what have you to lose?

halobeam

(4,873 posts)
33. Damn straight
Tue May 8, 2018, 04:20 AM
May 2018

If all else fails, get themselves arrested. They'll at least have food, heat a bed and healthcare back.

llmart

(15,536 posts)
45. Time for Hoovervilles everybody!
Tue May 8, 2018, 08:56 AM
May 2018

Maybe the rest of us should find a way to set them all up in tent cities either at the state capitol or the White House. There'll be no porta potties, so let them do whatever they have to when nature calls on the lawn of the White House or state capitol.

Republicans have money for endless military excursions but God forbid they find money to house and care for human beings.

Did it ever occur to them that not everyone has family to help? Or they don't live near family? Or their family is all dead?

appalachiablue

(41,127 posts)
85. "Hoovervilles" in the Great Depression 1930s, all over the US. For real.
Tue May 8, 2018, 04:29 PM
May 2018


USA, 1930s Great Depression. Communities named for Pres. Herbert Hoover (R) in office during the 1929 Financial Crash, followed by 10 years of economic misery including 20-50% unemployment. Hoover proposed consulting the Red Cross, and did very little to help the economy or the American people.
In 1933 FDR (D) took office and implemented major reforms & New Deal programs to help lift the nation from poverty.

Elwood P Dowd

(11,443 posts)
19. Former House Speaker Jim Tucker says, "If those notices go out, they will kill people"
Tue May 8, 2018, 01:14 AM
May 2018
http://www.nola.com/politics/index.ssf/2018/05/people_who_are_elderly_disable.html

The Louisiana Nursing Home Association said the Medicaid cuts would cause most of its facilities in the state to close, meaning people with private insurance would also lose their homes. The industry employs 25,000 people in Louisiana, many of whom would no longer be employed if the Medicaid cut is implemented, representatives said.

Other financial problems could occur for nursing homes once the notices go out, industry leaders said. It could lead banks to seize assets or try to collect on loans the nursing homes have taken out. 

CommCare Corp., which runs 12 nursing homes around the state, said about 1,000 of its 1,600 residents would lose Medicaid benefits under the proposed cut. The  company's leader, former House Speaker Jim Tucker, said if the notices are sent, his company will have to start "preparing for the worst." 

Tucker also said some residents -- such as those who don't have a family that can take them in -- could die from the stress. Many aren't aware that their Medicaid services are on the chopping block, he said. 

"If those notices go out, they will kill people," Tucker, a Republican who represented the New Orleans area, said last month in an interview. 
 

Hulk

(6,699 posts)
20. Remember that ad with ryan pushing granny out of her wheelchair...off the cliff..?
Tue May 8, 2018, 01:14 AM
May 2018

And the Florida Congressman ( his name escapes me atm) who explained the repug health plan..."die quickly"...?

Well...here we are folks. It wasn't so far fetched, was it!

Shipwack

(2,161 posts)
36. Congratulations, you're getting your wish.
Tue May 8, 2018, 07:15 AM
May 2018

Alan Grayson is running for his old seat.

“Yesterday, I filed the papers to run for my old seat in Congress, Florida’s 9th Congressional District.

And with your help, we will win >>

I’m running for Congress because our progressive goals – justice, equality and peace – need a champion in Congress.

Think about it. Who can you think of, in the U.S. House of Representatives, whom you would call a champion for progress? On a good day, one or two or three of them. On a bad day, none.

We need someone in Congress who actually knows how to get things done. And I passed 121 pieces of legislation – more than anyone else – even when the Republicans were in charge.

We need someone in Congress who won’t be cowed by Donald Trump’s Twitter feed.

We need someone in Congress who lays the foundation for future progress. Like my Seniors Deserve a Raise Act, for the first increase in Social Security benefits in 43 years. Like my Seniors Have Eyes, Ears and Teeth Act, to expand Medicare to cover eyeglasses, hearing aids and dental care. Like my Freedom From Fear Act, to reinstate the assault weapons ban. Like my College for All Act, introducing the Bernie Sanders free public college law in the House.

Because it’s not enough just to win. You have to make people’s lives better.”

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,490 posts)
24. Additional Info here:
Tue May 8, 2018, 01:42 AM
May 2018
New Orleans Times Picayune:
Louisiana will put 37,000 Medicaid recipients on notice that they could lose benefits
Link: http://www.nola.com/politics/index.ssf/2018/05/people_who_are_elderly_disable.html

Even if state lawmakers find the money to pay for those services before then, state officials said they were compelled to warn Medicaid recipients that the cuts are a distinct possibility.

"We can't just afford to bury our heads in the sand," said Jay Dardenne, Gov. John Bel Edwards' chief budget officer and the state's commissioner of administration. "We tried to delay this as long as we possibly can."

Those receiving notification include around 20,000 people who live in nursing homes, thousands of people with intellectual disabilities who live in group homes and those who receive home health care assistance. All of their support services would be at risk, including the ability to stay in a nursing home, if state Medicaid funding is slashed.

The Louisiana House approved a state operating budget last month that would eliminate four Medicaid programs for the disabled and elderly. Notices are scheduled to go out to those affected Thursday (May 9), though their delivery has been pushed back previously. Dardenne said the 37,000 people will also be contacted to see if they qualify for some other kind of Medicaid service that isn't proposed for elimination.


And, Baton Rouge - The Advocate:
At 'difficult' hearing, public begs Louisiana lawmakers for health care help; nursing home patients warned
Link: http://www.theadvocate.com/baton_rouge/news/politics/legislature/article_05b22a94-5234-11e8-b3f0-3311766dc2fd.html

"When people get the letters, they are going to be frantic," Sen. Regina Barrow, D-Baton Rouge, said during a budget hearing at which the Edwards administration outlined steps that it is taking to prepare people for the worst-case budget scenario and stressed that the letters are not meant as a definite signal that elderly and disabled people are going to be evicted this summer.

About 35,000 letters will be mailed Thursday to people who rely on Medicaid health care programs deemed "optional" under federal guidelines. The letters include 17,000 to nursing home residents across the state whose assistance would end July 1 if the Legislature doesn't cover funding for those programs in a budget that is currently being crafted.

"These people cannot be taken care of at home and many of them are at an age where there is no home to return to," said Mark Berger, executive director of the Louisiana Nursing Home Association, often a politically powerful group in the State Capitol.

Beyond patients with mental and physical limitations being threatened with the possibility of having to move out, Berger said the news also could trigger layoffs at nursing homes.

"This budget cut looms large over the entire program," he said.


...........

area51

(11,906 posts)
27. Omg
Tue May 8, 2018, 03:07 AM
May 2018

Republicans are fscking nazis. As other people in the thread have mentioned, not everyone has family who could take them in.

RKP5637

(67,104 posts)
58. Same as Hitler: different times, different people/country, different methods, but the end result is
Tue May 8, 2018, 10:27 AM
May 2018

the same, death. Culling the herd. America is becoming more and more the opposite of everything the country ever stood for. If young, get the hell out of America if you can as it's probably just going to get worse and worse. There are many wonderful places to live on earth.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
64. Trump and the GOP fascist coup are really dropping the mask
Tue May 8, 2018, 10:43 AM
May 2018

Maybe when the old and sick are kicked out on the streets to die some regular republican voters will finally wake up to the horror of the fascist GOP and their 1% masters!

28. I can't decide whether this is compassionate conservatism or tough love.
Tue May 8, 2018, 03:12 AM
May 2018

Either way, it falls right in line with the Republican motto: "I've got mine, so fuck you!"

Grins

(7,212 posts)
50. A twist: "You voted Republican, so fuck you!"
Tue May 8, 2018, 09:57 AM
May 2018

This is what you get when you vote Republican in Louisiana, and in Oklahoma, in Kansas, in West Virginia, etc., so deal with it.

democratisphere

(17,235 posts)
29. America is rapidly becoming a 4th world nation where cruelty has no limits.
Tue May 8, 2018, 03:20 AM
May 2018

drumpf's America is no place anyone should have to live. F' the GOP!

Kittycow

(2,396 posts)
30. "Bring out your dead"...
Tue May 8, 2018, 03:43 AM
May 2018

That's what this reminds me of: the carts going through the streets to pile on another body during the Black Plague.

It might as well be that. The Medicaid residents are usually destitute, medically fragile people. At least in my experience as a former CNA.

Just throw them out on the street and wait.

byronius

(7,394 posts)
32. On the plus side -- everything is clear. Heartbreakingly, utterly clear.
Tue May 8, 2018, 03:58 AM
May 2018

They gained power over decades by telegraphing their plans quietly to The Base while trumpeting false patriotism for cover.

Now they're trumpeting plans to directly attack the civilian population without any cover at all except for a lingering notion in the majority of the population that the GOP may be no more than a tool of Russian military intelligence.

Can't last unless they succeed in killing the nation itself. Which they'll do for a nickel, clearly.

But they're not the brightest pennies in the pocket, hey? Nope. They're a lot of things, but not that. Not the brightest, or the healthiest, or even the toughest. Nope.

Watch out, GOP! Here comes the Darwin! Oh nooooooes!

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
35. So, it isn't just about losing a place to stay.
Tue May 8, 2018, 07:02 AM
May 2018

What about losing all of their prescription drugs?

3Hotdogs

(12,374 posts)
38. Stop complainig. Abortion and Gunz.. them's what's important. Not Granny.
Tue May 8, 2018, 07:52 AM
May 2018

Besides, Obama and Hillary's emails are responsible for this.

bucolic_frolic

(43,132 posts)
39. Welcome to Louisiana Indigent Care Laboratory
Tue May 8, 2018, 07:54 AM
May 2018

Some nursing homes, particularly small ones, rely on Medicaid patient funding as part of their steady income to pay the bills. Surely bankruptcies will ensue from this cruel, craven, ideological shortsightedness.

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
41. Just guessing here
Tue May 8, 2018, 08:08 AM
May 2018

but since Louisiana is a bright red state, the people getting kicked out of the nursing homes and the children who will have to come up with plan B most certainly voted for Trump and their Republican Representatives.

My guess is that they will vote for Trump in 2020 if he and they are still around.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,307 posts)
43. All so the Republicans can cut sales tax by one cent
Tue May 8, 2018, 08:16 AM
May 2018
The budget passed by the House and sent to the Senate contains deep cuts to healthcare because of a shortfall of between $550 million and $648 million, depending on who's doing the calculations.

Next year's shortfall was created because about $1.4 billion in temporary taxes expire June 30. The bulk of the expiring taxes, about $880 million, comes from a one-cent sales tax.

Javaman

(62,521 posts)
44. "Next year's shortfall was created because..."
Tue May 8, 2018, 08:28 AM
May 2018

"...about $1.4 billion in temporary taxes expire June 30. The bulk of the expiring taxes, about $880 million, comes from a one-cent sales tax."

for the cut of one fucking cent.

fuck this asshole heartless psychopath repukes.

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
47. Just guessing he means 1%.
Tue May 8, 2018, 09:17 AM
May 2018

Doesn't it make sense with 1%? Kicking granny out on the street so that someone can get a $3,000 kickback from buying his $300,000 yacht.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
46. There is always living under the bridge.
Tue May 8, 2018, 08:58 AM
May 2018

WTF do they expect these people to do? Most of them presumably don't have anywhere to go to.

mia

(8,360 posts)
49. The Democratic Party needs to send a strong message in support of the sick and elderly everywhere.
Tue May 8, 2018, 09:56 AM
May 2018

If we don't support the most fragile among us, who will?

Nitram

(22,791 posts)
53. Nice! So they're going to kick out elderly patients with Alzheimer's, diabetes, congestive heart
Tue May 8, 2018, 10:09 AM
May 2018

failure, and who knows what else onto the street to die there. Instead of solving problems as Obama tried to do, they are making them far worse. Congress should declare a state of emergency and start saving the elderly, the indigent, and the sick. Then they should impeach Dump, Pence, Ryan and McConnell and hold new elections.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
56. I guess lots of older republican voting folks thought we were kidding about the granny killing GOP
Tue May 8, 2018, 10:18 AM
May 2018


Now they will see the truth firsthand.

RKP5637

(67,104 posts)
57. The republican plan continues to implement the culling of people in America, killing them off.
Tue May 8, 2018, 10:21 AM
May 2018

I'm not joking. This is obviously the plan and often those on the list continue to vote republican. I still think many Americans still don't understand or are not paying attention to the republican agenda. The republican evilness depends on robotic individuals who vote republican on command.

appalachiablue

(41,127 posts)
92. New: *MICHIGAN MEDICAID Work Requirement Comes With A Racist Twist*
Tue May 8, 2018, 09:14 PM
May 2018

May 2018, "Michigan's Medicaid Work Requirement Comes With a Racist Twist," Most Impact on Detroit and Flint, NY Mag.

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/05/michigans-medicaid-work-requirement-comes-with-racist-twist.html

Medicaid work requirements, the shiny new toy for Republican lawmakers across the country, may soon make their way to Michigan. But the proposal that passed the state senate in Lansing last week and is expected to sail through the house in coming days, puts a new, racist twist on the already-bad idea.

The bill, which requires proof of working 30 hours each week to maintain Medicaid coverage, contains an exemption for people residing in counties where unemployment exceeds 8.5 percent.
That would leave the largely white residents of rural areas, some of which are represented by the bill’s sponsors, exempt from the onerous new rule. Meanwhile, people living in places such as Detroit and Flint would not get the same exemption despite the unemployment rate in those cities exceeding the same threshold.

Columnist Nancy Kaffer explains in the Detroit Free Press:
[Detriot’s] unemployment rate is higher than 8.5%, but the unemployment rate in surrounding Wayne County is just 5.5% — meaning Detroiters living in poverty, with a dysfunctional transit system that makes it harder to reach good-paying jobs, won’t qualify for that exemption. The same is true in Flint and the state’s other struggling cities.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100210584127

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
59. "developing their appropriate plans"
Tue May 8, 2018, 10:27 AM
May 2018

Those are GOP code words for, homelessness, starvation, death from lack of medical care, elder abuse by relatives forced to take in bedridden, sick, old folks they can not ever take care of.

MAGA America! How do you like that winning now? Are you ****ing sick of it yet?!

mackdaddy

(1,526 posts)
65. Probaby more than 10 thousand will be DEAD within weeks.
Tue May 8, 2018, 10:50 AM
May 2018

My father had a stroke 6 months ago, and I have been dealing with nursing homes since then. He initially recovered somewhat, but then has started deteriorating again. He is 86 and has many complications, but keeps on living somehow.

But having been dragged through this process of Medicare to self pay, and eventually Medicaid I know more about it than I ever wanted to.

No one ever goes into a nursing home because they "Want" to, only because the HAVE to! The people there need 24/7 care for even their most basic needs. They are beyond what nearly anyone can provided in home care. Nursing homes cost about $7000 a month to be in one! I am about to write the third $7400 check this week. My parents IRA savings is dwindling fast.

And Medicaid is the last resort payer, and you have to literally bankrupt yourself (under $2000 in money/savings) before you can apply, and the application process itself if grueling. If you do have any assets like a home your spouse is living in, the state will put a lien on its eventual sale for any money. They look back an any money you have given away in the last 5 years and essentially claw that money back before Medicaid starts paying anything.

Throwing these people out is a literal death sentence for many if not most of these people. They will not survive without this level of care, and it will be beyond the capabilities of most families. Plus how many will lose their jobs because of trying to take care of their now in-home patients.

This is some Nazi level evil. Who needs assault rifles when we have "Assault Policies" to really kill a lot of people.

liberalmuse

(18,672 posts)
66. This is unconscionable.
Tue May 8, 2018, 10:59 AM
May 2018

Pro-life indeed. If these degenerates are going to abandon the poor and sick, they should enact at-will right to die laws so the victims of their policies at least have the choice of living in suffering or dying on their own terms. Republicans are the death panels they so fear.

Submariner

(12,503 posts)
67. This move should ramp up the Suicide rate in Louisiana
Tue May 8, 2018, 11:00 AM
May 2018

Interesting GOP pro-life approach to population control.

bluestarone

(16,906 posts)
68. So the state is doing this????? THEN
Tue May 8, 2018, 11:24 AM
May 2018

Families should file federal elderly abuse charges against the state!! Through there ombudsman!! Could this be possible??? https://ncea.acl.gov/whatwedo/policy/federal.html

Doreen

(11,686 posts)
70. Oh come on people, trump needs the money for his
Tue May 8, 2018, 11:35 AM
May 2018

military parade and the many others I am sure he will bless us with.

SWBTATTReg

(22,112 posts)
72. I think that the state of Louisiana just made a giant mistake...
Tue May 8, 2018, 12:42 PM
May 2018

If I were elderly (and I am getting there), I will no longer travel on vacation to New Orleans. I will no longer retire to New Orleans or the like, if there is a possibility that one day in the future, I'll be kicked out of my long term health care facility (I do have the insurance for long term health care, but it more than likely won't be near enough). The fact is that the state has a responsibility to these elderly patients and shouldn't just dump these patients merely because of a shortfall of a 1 cent sales tax.

As one post above mentioned, going into a nursing home is a last resort item. My family and I kept my father at home when it was almost impossible to physically move my father (the bathroom, bed, etc.)...It was a challenge that my mother insisted on taking and did.

Either most of those already in homes are there for a specific reason, need special care, 3 meals a day, don't have families to help w/ long term health care needs, and so forth. Most homes are not setup to handle a wheelchair and the like, or have someone around all of the time (they have to work, etc.).

What happens in this particular case (Louisiana) if a nursing home inhabitant doesn't have any family representing them (all by themselves, which oftentimes happens, their spouse has already passed on, etc.)? If I were a citizen of Louisiana, I would be somewhat concerned for this may be my future someday, getting kicked out onto the curb by the state.

Bengus81

(6,931 posts)
78. How many are Vets?? Yeah....the CONS "support the troops" and Liburls don't........
Tue May 8, 2018, 02:56 PM
May 2018

More PROOF that that statement has always been BS.

MarcA

(2,195 posts)
81. Appropriate Plan - Family Members, Advocates show up
Tue May 8, 2018, 03:11 PM
May 2018

at the offices, businesses and homes of the ones in the Louisiana
State Legislature responsible for this With the patients. Also, same
for locales of Ryan, McConnell, the Kochs, Mercers, et al. And bring
the media with you. IOW bring the War home.

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