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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Tue May 8, 2018, 03:20 PM May 2018

9/11 Planner, Tortured by C.I.A., Asks to Tell Senators About Gina Haspel

Source: The New York Times



By CHARLIE SAVAGEMAY 8, 2018

WASHINGTON — President Trump’s nomination of Gina Haspel to lead the C.I.A. has revived debate over the agency’s post-Sept. 11 interrogation program and still-murky questions about her involvement. Now, on the eve of her Senate confirmation hearing, a striking voice is trying to join that fray: Khalid Shaikh Mohammed.

Mr. Mohammed, the principal architect of the Sept. 11 attacks, was captured in March 2003 and tortured by the C.I.A. This week, he asked a military judge at Guantánamo Bay for permission to share six paragraphs of information about Ms. Haspel with the Senate Intelligence Committee.

Ms. Haspel ran a black-site prison in Thailand where another high-level detainee was tortured in late 2002. But it is not known whether she was involved, directly or indirectly, in Mr. Mohammed’s torture. Mr. Mohammed was held in secret C.I.A. prisons in Afghanistan and Poland.

In the weeks after his capture, an Intelligence Committee report said, Mr. Mohammed was subjected to the suffocation technique called waterboarding 183 times over 15 sessions, stripped naked, doused with water, slapped, slammed into a wall, given rectal rehydrations without medical need, shackled into painful stress positions and sleep-deprived for about a week by being forced to stand with his hands chained above his head.

Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/08/us/politics/khalid-shaikh-mohammed-gina-haspel.html?smid=pl-share

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9/11 Planner, Tortured by C.I.A., Asks to Tell Senators About Gina Haspel (Original Post) DonViejo May 2018 OP
republicans are really into torture Achilleaze May 2018 #1
Hey, if torture was good enough for JC, then its good enough for Those People. ret5hd May 2018 #2
Disgracing the memory of George Washington who refused to use it. Sophia4 May 2018 #6
STFU you terrorist swine leftynyc May 2018 #3
It's hard to imagine the 9/11 mastermind garnering any sympathy. subterranean May 2018 #4
It'd help Trump to have KSM be against his nominee. christx30 May 2018 #7
be curious as to what his says....will not matter but curious dembotoz May 2018 #5
No, it wouldn't. Igel May 2018 #8

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
1. republicans are really into torture
Tue May 8, 2018, 03:30 PM
May 2018

Directly kissing off the Biblical teachings of love they say they believe in.

 

Sophia4

(3,515 posts)
6. Disgracing the memory of George Washington who refused to use it.
Tue May 8, 2018, 05:12 PM
May 2018

Read Washington's Crossing which discusses briefly Washington's rejection of torture of prisoners of war.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
3. STFU you terrorist swine
Tue May 8, 2018, 03:54 PM
May 2018

We don't need you for this and all you'll do is create sympathy for her position.

subterranean

(3,427 posts)
4. It's hard to imagine the 9/11 mastermind garnering any sympathy.
Tue May 8, 2018, 04:05 PM
May 2018

Not saying it was right, but given what happened on 9/11, many people will think if anyone deserved to be tortured, it's him.

christx30

(6,241 posts)
7. It'd help Trump to have KSM be against his nominee.
Tue May 8, 2018, 08:26 PM
May 2018

"See? The enemies of America don't want her in! What does that tell you about her future effectiveness? Are the Democrats going to listen to a known terrorist in whom they confirm? I guess we'll see, folks."

Igel

(35,274 posts)
8. No, it wouldn't.
Tue May 8, 2018, 08:40 PM
May 2018

Question: Would it be worth risking your life to seek revenge against somebody instrumental in your torture? It happens quite a bit. The need to absolve oneself of dishonor and disgrace has a long history of precisely that sort of behavior, esp. when dishonor isn't just your personal problem but also that of family, clan, tribe, and even natio.

If so, would it be worth risking the truth to seek revenge?

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