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turbinetree

(24,695 posts)
Wed May 9, 2018, 05:51 PM May 2018

Trump is expected to veto farm bill unless it imposes tough work requirements

Source: Think Progress

Forty-three million Americans depend on SNAP for food assistance. Now, the president wants to make things more difficult for them.

REBEKAH ENTRALGO MAY 9, 2018, 12:43 PM

President Donald Trump is expected to tell lawmakers Wednesday that he intends to veto the farm bill unless it includes tighter work requirements for individuals receiving food stamps, two people familiar with the deliberations told the Wall Street Journal.

Work requirements for food stamps, known officially as the Supplemental Nutritional Assistance Program (SNAP), are the most controversial portion of the farm bill, which provides funding for SNAP and must be re-authorized by the fall.

President Trump has embraced the arguments of his party, saying on the campaign trail, “The person who is not working at all and has no intention of working at all is making more money and doing better than the person that’s working his and her ass off.”

Last October, Trump also claimed that “people are taking advantage of the system and other people aren’t receiving what they need to live.”

Read more: https://thinkprogress.org/trump-wont-sign-farm-bill-without-work-requirements-3fea66596030/



What a fucking completely dick.......................and he goes down to Florida and does what kind of work, fucking golf......................



November 2018 cannot get fast enough
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Trump is expected to veto farm bill unless it imposes tough work requirements (Original Post) turbinetree May 2018 OP
I wish this worthless piece of shit would have a massive heart attack on tv JI7 May 2018 #1
(Would be) Most watched video evah on Youtube. Solly Mack May 2018 #4
No put it on pay-per-view Haggis for Breakfast May 2018 #30
Do you think republicans will override this veto? no_hypocrisy May 2018 #2
No. They are more afraid of his base than they are concerned for constituents. salin May 2018 #11
His base collects these benefits! TeamPooka May 2018 #16
Well, yeah, but... Shipwack May 2018 #19
So why don't you stop playing golf and do some work for a change . Chickensoup May 2018 #3
They want to kill poor people and I dont know if we can stop them Eliot Rosewater May 2018 #5
Is there a "Secretary of Real Work" in the cabinet that can explain to him what it is?? dameatball May 2018 #6
Apparently, paleotn May 2018 #7
Aren't they changing SNAP 'food' to a drop off box at your door, brand X appalachiablue May 2018 #33
"Tough work" is another thing Spanky has never experienced. world wide wally May 2018 #8
Own an expensive assault weapon ? No food stamps! pwb May 2018 #9
I like it! trixie2 May 2018 #12
I am part of the 12% of senior citizens who receive food stamps, 44% are children elocs May 2018 #10
For a country that is suppose to be the richest......................which we are................... turbinetree May 2018 #14
2017 average. yallerdawg May 2018 #15
Sadly this will be just FINE with his base ladym55 May 2018 #13
We need tighter work requirements for this President TeamPooka May 2018 #17
make more friends? Trump really is clueless to what a veto does to the farm bill at this juncture... beachbum bob May 2018 #18
Red States BlueDog22 May 2018 #20
Don't think this asshole believes he's Corgigal May 2018 #21
So, no federal support for farmers? greymattermom May 2018 #22
Trump already said he would help out the farmers hit hard by his IDIOT trade policies.... Bengus81 May 2018 #36
Just wondering how you can make people work catrose May 2018 #23
"Being poor is a lot of work" handmade34 May 2018 #24
I don't imagine they'll take anything into consideration catrose May 2018 #29
Not a single one of these fascists have worked a hard day in their lives or known a hardship... EarthFirst May 2018 #25
So he can eat more? RandySF May 2018 #26
Disrupt and destabilize orangecrush May 2018 #27
When #45 is convicted of racketeering and his property is seized and sold, I hope NCjack May 2018 #28
Let him veto it. Freethinker65 May 2018 #31
Blood on the Scarecrow, blood on the plow . . . Haggis for Breakfast May 2018 #32
Thanks for the reminder, I recall some & Farm Aid concerts. Awful time appalachiablue May 2018 #34
Part of the "farm" bill which has paid them for DECADES for not working certain sections of land... Bengus81 May 2018 #35

JI7

(89,246 posts)
1. I wish this worthless piece of shit would have a massive heart attack on tv
Wed May 9, 2018, 05:53 PM
May 2018

So the world can celebrate

Haggis for Breakfast

(6,831 posts)
30. No put it on pay-per-view
Wed May 9, 2018, 10:37 PM
May 2018

Then distribute the money to all of the Americans he screwed with his tax giveaway to the 1%.

Shipwack

(2,161 posts)
19. Well, yeah, but...
Wed May 9, 2018, 06:46 PM
May 2018

-They- deserve and need it. It’s those -other- lazy people that are cheating the system.

Then when their sister who can’t get a full time job because she has a special needs child loses her benefits....

They’ll blame a Democrat.

paleotn

(17,911 posts)
7. Apparently,
Wed May 9, 2018, 06:14 PM
May 2018

Dumpster has no idea how much SNAP provides. No one and I mean NO ONE is doing "well" on SNAP. For a family, SNAP is barely a step above starvation.

appalachiablue

(41,118 posts)
33. Aren't they changing SNAP 'food' to a drop off box at your door, brand X
Thu May 10, 2018, 12:12 AM
May 2018

crackers and peanut butter, some little packages of processed junk and maybe a juice box or two?

Thought I heard this a while ago.

elocs

(22,566 posts)
10. I am part of the 12% of senior citizens who receive food stamps, 44% are children
Wed May 9, 2018, 06:17 PM
May 2018

and another 11% are the non-elderly with disabilities. So that's 67% or 2/3 of those who receive Snap benefits. For able-bodied adults there are strict requirements about looking for work and a time limit on benefits, especially if they are single.
I am retired and single and I am under the 100% Federal Poverty Level and I receive a grand total of $32/month in Snap benefits or about a dollar a day, down from $39/month in December because in January I receive a $15/month SS cost of living increase to they had to cut my Snap benefits. Evidently food does not count in getting a COLA.
If not for food pantries and availing myself of any way I can find to get food I would be in tough shape if I depended upon Snap benefits to ever remotely supplement what I need to eat.

turbinetree

(24,695 posts)
14. For a country that is suppose to be the richest......................which we are...................
Wed May 9, 2018, 06:35 PM
May 2018

I and 32 million of us are on social security, because we made this country rich and we made these corporations rich, and we made these individual investors rich.......................and now as I speak Paul "ayn rand" Ryan and the sexual predator are trying to cut 800 billion from social security................................what the hell did I or you do to them........................beside live.................

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
15. 2017 average.
Wed May 9, 2018, 06:35 PM
May 2018
On average, SNAP households received about $254 a month in fiscal year 2017. The average SNAP benefit per person was about $126 per month, which works out to about $1.40 per person per meal.

https://www.cbpp.org/research/food-assistance/a-quick-guide-to-snap-eligibility-and-benefits

They want to take this away because it "creates a dependency."

Just sick.

ladym55

(2,577 posts)
13. Sadly this will be just FINE with his base
Wed May 9, 2018, 06:33 PM
May 2018

They see SNAP benefits going to THOSE people, you know, the "undeserving." THOSE people are lazy, shiftless and don't deserve help. So much hatred and ignorance.

I see it all too often, and common sense, logic, and compassion don't change minds.

 

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
18. make more friends? Trump really is clueless to what a veto does to the farm bill at this juncture...
Wed May 9, 2018, 06:42 PM
May 2018

He is going more discontent with the rural voters with his tariffs and trade wars brewing

BlueDog22

(366 posts)
20. Red States
Wed May 9, 2018, 06:48 PM
May 2018

On the bright side: This would hurt red states more. This would throw Tennessee and West Virginia more, and hopefully help the Democrats there.

I feel some way about myself for thinking that way...

Corgigal

(9,291 posts)
21. Don't think this asshole believes he's
Wed May 9, 2018, 06:57 PM
May 2018

gonna run for re-election, it's hitting some of his own voters now. This policy shift can be used against him in certain areas and it will ring true, because it is.

greymattermom

(5,754 posts)
22. So, no federal support for farmers?
Wed May 9, 2018, 07:39 PM
May 2018

and the trade war with China will cause major disruptions, especially in sorghum and hog regions. That and the drought will be disastrous for....Kansas....Iowa...west Texas...Oklahoma.

Bengus81

(6,931 posts)
36. Trump already said he would help out the farmers hit hard by his IDIOT trade policies....
Thu May 10, 2018, 07:58 AM
May 2018

SNAP people?? Nah,lazy no counts.................

catrose

(5,065 posts)
23. Just wondering how you can make people work
Wed May 9, 2018, 08:01 PM
May 2018

I've been looking for a job since last August. Does it count if you're looking but not getting hired? Is the government going to supply makework for people who don't have jobs? How disabled do you have to be before you're released from the obligation? How old? Being poor IS a lot of work. He should try it some time.

Oh, and when my son was on food stamps when he was between jobs, he got $17/month. How much work do you have to do to get your $17? I hope it's not the 20 hours/week I've heard floating around, because that works out to around 20 cents an hour.

This guy. Seriously.

handmade34

(22,756 posts)
24. "Being poor is a lot of work"
Wed May 9, 2018, 08:22 PM
May 2018

you got that right!!... everybody should have the pleasure of experiencing it

and I wonder if they will take into consideration the additional cost of working a low wage job--

catrose

(5,065 posts)
29. I don't imagine they'll take anything into consideration
Wed May 9, 2018, 09:03 PM
May 2018

we'll get another tossed salad, like all their half-BAKED programs.

EarthFirst

(2,900 posts)
25. Not a single one of these fascists have worked a hard day in their lives or known a hardship...
Wed May 9, 2018, 08:26 PM
May 2018

They don’t have a fucking clue.

RandySF

(58,739 posts)
26. So he can eat more?
Wed May 9, 2018, 08:29 PM
May 2018

I had a cousin who needed who stamps for a brief time. She was a stay-at-home mom when her asshole husband went to jail for touching a kid. She needed a little help while she looked for work. No one is looking for handout, just enough to avoid letting their kids starve.

orangecrush

(19,519 posts)
27. Disrupt and destabilize
Wed May 9, 2018, 08:29 PM
May 2018

Throwing people off SNAP on a large scale will lead to unrest and more crime.

Just what Putin ordered.

NCjack

(10,279 posts)
28. When #45 is convicted of racketeering and his property is seized and sold, I hope
Wed May 9, 2018, 08:53 PM
May 2018

I am his straw boss on a hot, North Carolina tobacco farm.

Haggis for Breakfast

(6,831 posts)
32. Blood on the Scarecrow, blood on the plow . . .
Wed May 9, 2018, 11:01 PM
May 2018

Who remembers Reaganomics ? In the mid-1980s, Reagan initiated the worst farm crisis since the Great Depression, when he passed the most punitive, destructive financial policies that suppressed prices and ignored the increase in feed and energy costs. This led to foreclosures on a massive scale. Between 1985 and 1986, 80,000 to 90,000 small and mid-sized farms closed.

Suicides of farmers reached an all-time high for rural regions most effected. Some of these farms had been started three generations back, and now families found they could not go on. In the upper mid-western states of Wisconsin, North and South Dakota, Minnesota and Montana, more than 900 male farmers committed suicides in the 80s, more than doubling the national average at the time.

Think about that for just a moment.

Willie Nelson (who picked cotton as a young boy) and John Mellencamp and Bob Dylan and Neil Young did. The first Farm Aid concert held in 1985, in Illinois raised $9 million. And they're still going on today.

Farmers didn't want a hand-out they only wanted a fair field. Even today, small farms are still hurting while BigAgra is making money hand over fist. And Monsanto is screwing everyone.

And now trump is going to put the screws to farmers again.

We have GOT to get these bastards out of office. PLEASE remember to vote in November, folks.

appalachiablue

(41,118 posts)
34. Thanks for the reminder, I recall some & Farm Aid concerts. Awful time
Thu May 10, 2018, 12:20 AM
May 2018

for the farmers and people in those states..all for Big Ag and more profits.

Bengus81

(6,931 posts)
35. Part of the "farm" bill which has paid them for DECADES for not working certain sections of land...
Thu May 10, 2018, 07:56 AM
May 2018

In fact in a story many years back they were paying farmers in western Kansas many times MORE than the going price of corn IF they would not plant any.

But SNAP adults and children better tow the line and get your second or third job if Trump deems it so.

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