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mahatmakanejeeves

(57,393 posts)
Fri May 11, 2018, 12:09 PM May 2018

Trump Was Told of Schneiderman Assaults Years Ago, Lawyer Says

Source: Bloomberg

Politics

Trump Was Told of Schneiderman Assaults Years Ago, Lawyer Says

By David Voreacos , Greg Farrell , and Erik Larson

May 11, 2018, 11:10 AM EDT Updated on May 11, 2018, 11:54 AM EDT

* Lawyer asks judge seal Michael Cohen records to protect women

* New York Post journalist said to take allegations to Trump

Donald Trump's personal lawyer, Michael Cohen, was informed about allegations of sexual misconduct by then-New York Attorney General Eric Schneiderman around 2013, according to a letter filed in Manhattan federal court on Friday.

An attorney, Peter Gleason, submitted a letter to the court Friday explaining that two women had come to him a half-decade or more ago with complaints that they were "sexually victimized" by Schneiderman.

Counseling against reporting the allegations to Manhattan's district attorney based on his past experiences with political corruption cases, Gleason says, he discussed the women's allegations with a retired New York Post journalist, Stephen Dunleavy.

Dunleavy who offered to discuss the matter with Trump. "Mr. Dunleavy did indeed discuss this very matter with Mr. Trump as evidenced by a phone call I received from attorney Michael Cohen," Gleason, a lawyer in Mahopac, New York, wrote to the judge. "During my communications with Mr. Cohen I shared with him certain details of Schneiderman's vile attacks on these two women." ... Schneiderman's lawyer, Isabelle Kirshner, declined to comment.

Read more: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-05-11/cohen-judge-asked-to-seal-files-related-to-schneiderman-women



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This is all coming out now because the lawyer (Peter Gleason) is asking the judge in the Michael Cohen case to issue an order protecting any records mentioning Gleason or the women that may have been seized from Cohen by the FBI. The motion, filed this am:




Wow: A lawyer is claiming that 2 of Eric Schneiderman's alleged victims contacted him in 2013. He says he advised them not to call prosecutors. Instead he says he went to a journalist who then talked to... Donald Trump. And then, the lawyer says, Michael Cohen called him about it




As @ShaneGoldmacher just noted, this adds new context to the old anti-Schneiderman tweets by Trump that went around earlier this week -- including this one, from 2013, right about the time that Gleason says Trump found out:




Hold up. trump knew that Schneiderman was assaulting women but, instead of saying/doing anything to prevent future assaults, held the info until he could use it to benefit himself. There are always new layers of dirtier garbage.




If I were writing this letter, I would make it FAR FAR FAR clearer whether I disclosed the women's confidences to journalists and Team Trump WITH THEIR INFORMED CONSENT OR NOT. The ambiguity on that point is concerning.


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Trump Was Told of Schneiderman Assaults Years Ago, Lawyer Says (Original Post) mahatmakanejeeves May 2018 OP
Was Trump waiting for Schneiderman to charge him or any of his minions The Velveteen Ocelot May 2018 #1
I'm guessing that's why they never went public with it NewJeffCT May 2018 #4
This might be the answer to the question of why Trump hasn't fired Mueller poli3 May 2018 #2
He who controls the dirt ... bucolic_frolic May 2018 #3
Let me see - so all these people knew about Schneiderman years ago - and no one asiliveandbreathe May 2018 #5
Nope ... GeorgeGist May 2018 #10
Same feeling here Raven123 May 2018 #20
The two women were likely referred by Gleason's OTHER client at the time: jberryhill May 2018 #22
Sounds like ratfucking Sanity Claws May 2018 #6
attorney-client privilege bucolic_frolic May 2018 #11
Yep but times 10 is SayItLoud May 2018 #18
Yes. Bogus attempt to hide Cohen information. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz May 2018 #13
But Why Me. May 2018 #28
OMG! Phoenix61 May 2018 #7
I'm curious who exactly the attorney Gleason is ToxMarz May 2018 #8
As the supposed leader of the country... C_U_L8R May 2018 #9
All's fair in love and war. NT mahatmakanejeeves May 2018 #14
He was the leader in 2013? former9thward May 2018 #34
He's been the "leader" for the last year and whatever C_U_L8R May 2018 #37
This story smells to high heaven..... CatMor May 2018 #12
Suspect the lawyer wants his part covered up more than he's trying to protect the victims bigbrother05 May 2018 #15
Don't miss the implication bucolic_frolic May 2018 #16
Such a short time after the Cohen seizure, maybe someone gave the women a heads up bigbrother05 May 2018 #17
Another question..how did these slimeballs keep the two women quiet? asiliveandbreathe May 2018 #23
That letter is a total crock of shit jberryhill May 2018 #19
Somehow Michael Cohen And Donald Trump Are Now Involved In The Eric Schneiderman Case mahatmakanejeeves May 2018 #21
Why? jberryhill May 2018 #26
Another reason Trump could have had to sit on the info about Schneiderman Izzy Blue May 2018 #35
Client? jberryhill May 2018 #38
Besides what you said about his models Izzy Blue May 2018 #41
Connect the dots...except at this point I'm dizzy. Merlot May 2018 #40
I can see why Trump would want to know about stuff like this way back in 2013... renate May 2018 #24
Because they were sex workers jberryhill May 2018 #27
Schneiderman prosecuted Trump for the Trump University case Calista241 May 2018 #31
SMERSH presidency... mikeysnot May 2018 #25
Had Ronan Farrow been older than 25 at the time, they would have been better off going to him. spooky3 May 2018 #29
Yet just another lie in which he won't be held accountable. Laffy Kat May 2018 #30
Why contact a 45 when he was just some NYC douche AJT May 2018 #32
Color me suspicious of this 'revelation' SkatmanRoth May 2018 #33
Lawyers don't lie to courts for shits and giggles, you know jberryhill May 2018 #39
'Soccer mom madam' blasts turncoat ex-partner - New York Post Izzy Blue May 2018 #36
I'm not buying this jmowreader May 2018 #42

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,674 posts)
1. Was Trump waiting for Schneiderman to charge him or any of his minions
Fri May 11, 2018, 12:13 PM
May 2018

with NY crimes before disclosing what he knew in order to discredit and deflect? That would be my guess. So it's a good thing the story came out before that happened.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
4. I'm guessing that's why they never went public with it
Fri May 11, 2018, 12:22 PM
May 2018

to "keep their powder dry" in case Schneiderman did anything.

That said, Schneiderman got Trump U to cough up $25 million?

poli3

(174 posts)
2. This might be the answer to the question of why Trump hasn't fired Mueller
Fri May 11, 2018, 12:13 PM
May 2018

Grassley says he believes Trump will be cleared, the only way this is possible is if Trump has dirt on the entire GOP in a way that would take down the party if it came out, and so he expects them to come to his defense. Those that don't play ball will end up like Schneiderman. This might be a warning shot to Paul Ryan to stay in line, so far Ryan has done so with Nunes.

bucolic_frolic

(43,128 posts)
3. He who controls the dirt ...
Fri May 11, 2018, 12:20 PM
May 2018

In Sherlock Holmes era, Professor Moriarty had his pulse on all London goings-on, and used that to his advantage.

asiliveandbreathe

(8,203 posts)
5. Let me see - so all these people knew about Schneiderman years ago - and no one
Fri May 11, 2018, 12:22 PM
May 2018

said anything? - Gleason suggested to two women NOT to report to Manhattan DA - who did he suggest they report to? A journalist? - A journalist who sat on the story? Why talk to T rump about this?

This smells..doesn't make sense...Am I the only one??

Sanity Claws

(21,846 posts)
6. Sounds like ratfucking
Fri May 11, 2018, 12:24 PM
May 2018

Two women just happen to go to the same attorney, Peter Gleason, who has no expertise in sexual harassment, etc.
Gleason just violates attorney-client privilege by going to a NY Post "journalist" and telling him about it, who in turn goes to Trump.

Well, isn't that convenient?

Smells like ratfucking to me.

bucolic_frolic

(43,128 posts)
11. attorney-client privilege
Fri May 11, 2018, 12:28 PM
May 2018

Thank you for mentioning it. While names were probably not discussed, still ... why would an attorney go to a journalist? Why would a journalist go to Trump? This is a food chain of information stored away for future power. This is the TIP of the iceberg. There is no telling how much information is locked away for advantage over someone, somewhere.

Phoenix61

(17,002 posts)
7. OMG!
Fri May 11, 2018, 12:24 PM
May 2018

Guess we know how Twitler got away with so much in NY. Interesting the timing of Schneidman's outing. I don't know how many posts I read counting on him to back up what Mueller was doing. Looks like Mueller was making sure NY would back him up too. He really does dot all the i's and cross all the t's doesn't he.

ToxMarz

(2,166 posts)
8. I'm curious who exactly the attorney Gleason is
Fri May 11, 2018, 12:24 PM
May 2018

Clients approach him about a crime. He finds the best course of actin is not to go to the D. A., but rather to discuss with a New York Post reporter. From there they decide it is really Donald Trump they need to enlist in their pursuit of justice?

C_U_L8R

(44,998 posts)
9. As the supposed leader of the country...
Fri May 11, 2018, 12:25 PM
May 2018

why didn't Trump say anything? Isn't that complicit in some regard??

C_U_L8R

(44,998 posts)
37. He's been the "leader" for the last year and whatever
Fri May 11, 2018, 08:07 PM
May 2018

Just conveniently sitting on that info until it was politically useful???

CatMor

(6,212 posts)
12. This story smells to high heaven.....
Fri May 11, 2018, 12:31 PM
May 2018

If it were true it would have come out years ago. How convenient to come out now. What attorney would go to a reporter with the story, he should be disbarred.

bigbrother05

(5,995 posts)
15. Suspect the lawyer wants his part covered up more than he's trying to protect the victims
Fri May 11, 2018, 12:38 PM
May 2018

Sounds like the NY Post reporter knew who to contact to pay off the women and hooked their lawyer up with the guy in NYC with the best fixer for such problems.

Maybe the NY Post cut a "catch & kill" deal for their "exclusive" story that was facilitated by Mr. Cohen.

eta: In 2013, Trump was still playing both sides and this worked for him either way.

bucolic_frolic

(43,128 posts)
16. Don't miss the implication
Fri May 11, 2018, 12:39 PM
May 2018

Gleason to Trump. Trump to Cohen. Then Cohen calls Gleason. Cohen has files on this activity. Wonder what else is in Cohen's files?
A lot of information on a lot of people? Who else is funneling information to Trump over the years? This area of inquiry may have legs to it.

bigbrother05

(5,995 posts)
17. Such a short time after the Cohen seizure, maybe someone gave the women a heads up
Fri May 11, 2018, 12:47 PM
May 2018

If the four women accusing the NY AG knew there was evidence in the seized documents to support them, that would certainly bolster their courage to come forward.

Would also explain his resignation within hours of the accusation if there was contemporaneous documentation in the hands of the FBI.

asiliveandbreathe

(8,203 posts)
23. Another question..how did these slimeballs keep the two women quiet?
Fri May 11, 2018, 01:08 PM
May 2018

Was there a pay out to keep quiet? - Is there an NDA? -

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
19. That letter is a total crock of shit
Fri May 11, 2018, 12:58 PM
May 2018

Concern for the confidentiality of the victims? Are you fucking kidding me?

A lawyer advised two clients who were crime victims not to report the crimes?

I could spend all day pointing out all the wrong in this letter. Suffice it to say:

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,393 posts)
21. Somehow Michael Cohen And Donald Trump Are Now Involved In The Eric Schneiderman Case
Fri May 11, 2018, 01:06 PM
May 2018
COURTS

Somehow Michael Cohen And Donald Trump Are Now Involved In The Eric Schneiderman Case

Every cesspool of a New York law story comes together in this one.

By JOE PATRICE
at 12:27 PM

A couple days ago, attorney Peter Gleason came forward explaining that two unrelated and unidentified women had approached his law office regarding alleged sexual misconduct from noted role-play enthusiast former New York AG Eric Schneiderman. Ultimately neither case went forward — something all too common in the pre-#MeToo era — but Gleason did take some preliminary steps on their behalf.

Apparently, those preliminary steps involved bringing Michael Cohen and Donald Trump into the matter for some unknown f**king reason. ... Earlier this morning, Gleason wrote Judge Kimba Wood seeking a protective order in the latest bonkers turn in this ridiculous case:

I discussed the matter with a retired journalist by the name of Stephen Dunleavy who suggested and offered to discuss the matter with Donald Trump. Mr. Dunleavy did indeed discuss this very matter with Mr. Trump as evidenced by a phone call I received from Attorney Michael Cohen.

During my communications with Mr. Cohen I shared with him certain details of Mr. Schneiderman’s vile attacks on these two women.

So… why? What exactly was the point of bringing Trump into this? Cohen I understand — he smelled a high-priced NDA the way a shark smells a drop of blood from 10 miles away — but what the hell was Trump supposed to do? And, if we take this story at face value, Trump was aware of allegations against Schneiderman and he never brought them up during the Trump University suit? Trump makes up scurrilous attacks out of whole cloth in other cases, but he never tossed around claims about Schneiderman?

Or did he? Check out this gem from 2013:

{snip}

(The full letter available on the next page…)
 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
26. Why?
Fri May 11, 2018, 01:17 PM
May 2018

Simple.

Look at what Gleason was doing at the time:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2012/mar/22/peter-gleason-new-york-apartment

Okay, so Gleason is a defense attorney for a prostitution operation.

Two women assaulted by Schneiderman get referred to him. I think we can guess why.

Trump meanwhile is running a modeling agency that brings in talented women from Eastern Europe.

Connect the dots.
 

Izzy Blue

(282 posts)
35. Another reason Trump could have had to sit on the info about Schneiderman
Fri May 11, 2018, 07:09 PM
May 2018

is because Gleason had the goods on Trump having been a client of Anna Gristinas and the documentation to prove it?
Trump is a vindictive low-life and and for him not to have had the info leaked during all the years Schniederman was suing him can only mean one thing.

 

Izzy Blue

(282 posts)
41. Besides what you said about his models
Fri May 11, 2018, 09:56 PM
May 2018

Trump also could have been a client of Anna Gristinas professional services.

renate

(13,776 posts)
24. I can see why Trump would want to know about stuff like this way back in 2013...
Fri May 11, 2018, 01:09 PM
May 2018

It would be useful ammunition in case Schneiderman ever went after him for his real estate stuff. So Trump's interest makes perfect sense.

What doesn't make sense is why this lawyer would think that "I heard about Schneiderman's attacks on women, so instead of going to law enforcement I told a journalist who said he would tell Trump. Justice prevailed!" would fly as an excuse.

Calista241

(5,586 posts)
31. Schneiderman prosecuted Trump for the Trump University case
Fri May 11, 2018, 02:08 PM
May 2018

If Trump could prove the assaults took place, don't you think he would have played that card to avoid having to pay $25m?

I don't think Trump had any further legal liability with regard to Trump U, so it's not like he played that card and pled to a lesser charge. In any case, there's probably a lot more information here we aren't yet aware of.

spooky3

(34,439 posts)
29. Had Ronan Farrow been older than 25 at the time, they would have been better off going to him.
Fri May 11, 2018, 01:28 PM
May 2018

I agree that this story makes no sense for the reasons others have stated.

SkatmanRoth

(843 posts)
33. Color me suspicious of this 'revelation'
Fri May 11, 2018, 05:31 PM
May 2018

It happened a long time ago.

It is next to impossible to verify.

It is complex and hard to under stand.

If true, it could have far reaching implications of a Republican.

This has all the earmarks of a Turd Blossom express.

Has anybody heard from Karl Rove recently?

 

Izzy Blue

(282 posts)
36. 'Soccer mom madam' blasts turncoat ex-partner - New York Post
Fri May 11, 2018, 07:29 PM
May 2018

Cy Vance wouldn't go after Ivanka and Don Jr for misrepresenting SoHo or Weinstein.
Did Vance also know about the the sexual assault accusations against Schniderman and did Gristina's client list ever get published?
These guys live in one big toxic waste dumb.


'Soccer mom madam' blasts turncoat ex-partner - New York Post

https://nypost.com/2013/12/18/soccer-mom-madam-blasts-turncoat-ex-partner/

Dec 18, 2013 - Soccer-mom madam Anna Gristina (top left) berated her ex-partner, Jaynie Mae Baker (right), as the blonde beauty entered Manhattan court this morning. ... Notorious soccer-mom madam Anna Gristina ambushed her stunning former partner-in-pandering Wednesday, confronting the younger ..

."My family was vilified in a public witch hunt while Miss Baker played private footsy with [Manhattan DA] Cy Vance,” Gristina railed to reporters as Baker slinked out of the courthouse.

“Forgive me if I say the public has good reason to feel screwed by Mr. Vance,” Gristina added."


Cy Vance lashes out at Cuomo over Schneiderman decision

https://nypost.com/2018/.../cy-vance-lashes-out-at-cuomo-over-schneiderman-decisio...
3 days ago - Manhattan DA Cy Vance lashed out at Gov. Andrew Cuomo on Tuesday night over the governor’s refusal to let him investigate ousted Attorney General Eric Schneiderman. Cuomo appointed Nassau DA Madeline Singas as special prosecutor to investigate Schneiderman for allegedly roughing .

..
Get Cy Vance off the Schneiderman case - New York Post

https://nypost.com/2018/05/08/get-cy-vance-off-the-schneiderman-case/
3 days ago - Get Cy Vance off the Schneiderman case. Cy Vance Robert Miller. Only in New York would a district attorney open a probe into #MeToo ...

jmowreader

(50,554 posts)
42. I'm not buying this
Wed May 16, 2018, 06:25 PM
May 2018

I know all about Trump. The boy has diarrhea of the mouth and fingers, and you can't tell him what to do. (I'm surprised the Secret Service talked him out of using his own airplane as the presidential transport bird.) If that dipshit had the information on Schneiderman that they claim he does, he would have spilled it LONG ago.

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