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brooklynite

(94,356 posts)
Fri May 18, 2018, 08:07 AM May 2018

Giuliani: We don't know for sure if there was a spy in the campaign

Source: The Hill

President Trump’s lawyer Rudy Giuliani on Friday downplayed Trump’s claim that there was an FBI or Justice Department “informant” embedded in his campaign.

Giuliani told CNN’s Chris Cuomo that neither he nor Trump knows “for sure” if there was an informant.

“I don’t know for sure, nor does the president, if there really was one,” he said.

He told Cuomo that the team has been “told that” by people “off the record.”

Read more: http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/388271-giuliani-we-dont-know-for-sure-if-there-was-a-spy-in-the-campaign

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Botany

(70,447 posts)
1. So a police officer who does undercover work is a spy?
Fri May 18, 2018, 08:15 AM
May 2018

If the Trump campaign was not breaking the law this would not be a problem.

BTW many of our allies also picked up on the Russia/Trump connections too and
no doubt Bob Mueller has that information.

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
2. In TrumpWorld, nobody can know anything for sure.
Fri May 18, 2018, 08:21 AM
May 2018

"Facts" are just opinions that the president probably isn't gong to like.

displacedtexan

(15,696 posts)
9. You have captured the Trump Era perfectly!
Fri May 18, 2018, 10:52 AM
May 2018

I doubt anyone will ever top your description of our current national nightmare.

apnu

(8,749 posts)
10. Trump is the gaslight king
Fri May 18, 2018, 01:35 PM
May 2018

If he's gaslighting us, imagine how bad he gaslights his own people.

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
11. And not on purpose, I think.
Fri May 18, 2018, 01:39 PM
May 2018

He may have some grasp of gaslighting as a strategy, but I think we are seeing a limited intellect and a virtual shut-in deflecting the real world in the only little ways he knows: deny everything true, claim everything made-up as accomplishments.

I believe that this just happens to match the pattern of a deliberate gaslighter...or else he'd be better at it.

apnu

(8,749 posts)
12. I'm with you.
Fri May 18, 2018, 01:43 PM
May 2018

I have trouble telling "Don the Con" from "Ding Dong Donnie"

He's a con man, but he's also so stupid he seems to believe the obvious bullshit that comes out of his mouth. I can't tell if hes sincere with himself believing his own bullshit, or is laughing at all the rubes on the inside. Sometimes I see this shift of sincerity to mockery in the same incoherent run-on sentences that fall out of his mouth.

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
14. I think you can't spend fifty years surrounded by only yes-men...
Fri May 18, 2018, 02:31 PM
May 2018

...without coming to believe your own bullshit, or at least losing the ability to understand the real world.

There ought to be a Star Trek episode somewhere in which a kid raised by a computer on a holodeck is rescued and has to learn hard lessons. Our president is that character, so faar without the lessons.

I think "Charlie X" and "The Squire of Gothos" could be instructional viewing.

TRELANE: I don't know if I like your tone. It's most challenging. That's what you're doing, challenging me?
SPOCK: I object to you. I object to intellect without discipline. I object to power without constructive purpose.

relogic

(155 posts)
4. It Depends on the Meaning of Know...
Fri May 18, 2018, 09:03 AM
May 2018

With these lying devils- if they didn’t know they’re stupid. If they knew-they encouraged it. If rational, honest people posit to them the most obvious features and facts regarding life- they conveniently claim god, ignorance cuz it’s part of celestial plan or the easiest retreat of fatalistic fools:

I don’t care.

Yes, they married into the treasonous mob with lustful gusto and still claim they have any shred of integrity. The deplorables are such because this is who they are. To their gun fetishes and obscene greed they are so simply naked.

bucolic_frolic

(43,058 posts)
5. With public appeals to Russia and transparent tweets hourly
Fri May 18, 2018, 09:23 AM
May 2018

they feared a spy? Sounds like overt information flow was more a strategy than a concern

jcgoldie

(11,613 posts)
8. "A lot of people are saying..."
Fri May 18, 2018, 10:29 AM
May 2018

Maybe the same people that think Trump should win the Nobel Peace Prize...

justgamma

(3,662 posts)
13. Oh good grief!
Fri May 18, 2018, 02:30 PM
May 2018

It's simple. Our spies were doing their job and spying on the Russian spies. They really couldn't help it if the Trumpsters kept showing up on their radar.

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