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riversedge

(70,192 posts)
Tue May 22, 2018, 10:21 AM May 2018

Harley-Davidson took its tax cut, closed a factory, and rewarded shareholders

Source: vox.com



The motorcycle maker in January told Kansas City workers it would close a plant there. Days later, it announced a nearly $700 million stock buyback plan.

By Emily Stewart May 22, 2018, 8:00am EDT




In September 2017, House Speaker Paul Ryan traveled to a Harley-Davidson plant in Menomonee Falls, Wisconsin, to tout the Republican tax bill, which President Trump would sign later that year. “Tax reform can put American manufacturers and American companies like Harley-Davidson on a much better footing to compete in the global economy and keep jobs here in America,” Ryan told workers and company leaders.

Four months later and 500 miles away in Kansas City, Missouri, 800 workers at a Harley-Davidson factory were told they would lose their jobs when the plant closed its doors and shifted operations to a facility in York, Pennsylvania — a net loss of 350 jobs. Workers and union representatives say they didn’t see it coming.

Just days later, the company announced a dividend increase and a stock buyback plan to repurchase 15 million of its shares, valued at about $696 million.

It’s a pattern that’s played out over and over since the tax cuts passed — companies profit, shareholders reap the benefits, and workers get left out. Corporate stock buybacks hit a record $178 billion in the first three months of 2018; average hourly earnings for American workers are up 67 cents over the past year. Harley-Davidson is an American symbol, and President Trump has trotted it out as an example of business success. But as it’s getting its tax cut, it’s outsourcing jobs and paying shareholders.
The tax cuts aren’t saving jobs at Harley-Davidson
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Read more: https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/5/22/17350180/harley-davidson-tax-buyback-kansas-city-factory










President Donald Trump and Vice President Mike Pence walk together to greet Harley-Davidson executives on the South Lawn of the White House in February 2017. Drew Angerer/Getty Images












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Harley-Davidson took its tax cut, closed a factory, and rewarded shareholders (Original Post) riversedge May 2018 OP
TRump also met and bragged to Harley........... riversedge May 2018 #1
normal republican business practice and a great source of material to run against all republican beachbum bob May 2018 #2
Corruption. Corruption and more corruption is the #1 Fred Sanders May 2018 #26
MAGA! True Dough May 2018 #3
standard republican screw-the-taxpayer move Achilleaze May 2018 #4
And standard propaganda to announce workers "bonuses" Fred Sanders May 2018 #27
And how many of those Harley workers voted for Trump? Botany May 2018 #5
My ride is a 1800 cc Honda Goldwing. In_The_Wind May 2018 #6
18cc? Sailor65x1 May 2018 #8
whoops ... 1800 cc ... Need More Coffee this morning! In_The_Wind May 2018 #10
1782 cc's of coffee, STAT! OriginalGeek May 2018 #16
Harley DavidSAN elcaja May 2018 #7
Do people still buy many Harleys? IronLionZion May 2018 #9
yes they do and huge trade in the older Harleys. people collect them Sunlei May 2018 #17
No, their sales in the US are way down. Millennials don't ride motorcycles & HD's customer base FSogol May 2018 #18
They don't ride THOSE motorcycles jmowreader May 2018 #19
Yup, and women rarely ride Harleys or other cruisers IronLionZion May 2018 #24
I remember when the Fayetteville NC police changed to BMW jmowreader May 2018 #28
The key demographic Liberalhammer May 2018 #22
Not a bug not fooled May 2018 #11
Unfortuately, you are correct. riversedge May 2018 #13
Yep Solly Mack May 2018 #20
make ameriKa great again elmac May 2018 #12
And peeps in KC and Missouri pull a lever for ANY and ALL Republicans--especially Trump Bengus81 May 2018 #14
Sen. McCaskill should be all over this one in her campaign ads. muntrv May 2018 #15
Most common words heard by the GAO over the next decade.. Maxheader May 2018 #21
All I have to say is Ray Bruns May 2018 #23
That's trump and the Republicans duforsure May 2018 #25

riversedge

(70,192 posts)
1. TRump also met and bragged to Harley...........
Tue May 22, 2018, 10:22 AM
May 2018




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It wasn’t just Ryan who made promises to Harley-Davidson. Trump in February 2017 met with Harley-Davidson executives and union representatives at the White House. He thanked the company for building in America and predicted its operations would grow.

“I think you’re going to even expand — I know your business is now doing very well, and there’s a lot of spirit right now in the country that you weren’t having so much in the last number of months that you have right now,” Trump said. He added that impending changes to “taxing policies,” health care, tariffs, and trade would only make things better...
 

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
2. normal republican business practice and a great source of material to run against all republican
Tue May 22, 2018, 10:25 AM
May 2018

candidates this November

not rocket science how to frame the narrative, just democrats really suck at going at it effectively. We won't win if we think we can do with niceities...only

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
26. Corruption. Corruption and more corruption is the #1
Tue May 22, 2018, 01:50 PM
May 2018

issue. The massive tax fraud was just another form of corruption.

The mass media will never say "lie" and never say "corruption", because these words are apparently not to be said by the freest of presses in the land of the free speech.

America has the best free speech! Except it doesn't.

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
4. standard republican screw-the-taxpayer move
Tue May 22, 2018, 10:29 AM
May 2018

repubes have totally twisted "ethics" and are morally unfit.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
27. And standard propaganda to announce workers "bonuses"
Tue May 22, 2018, 02:08 PM
May 2018

which are mass reported by the mass media, and then the loss of 350 JOBS, NO BONUSES at all is a mere media footnote.

Corporate media in America is a joke even more so after their Iraq debacle. I thought they would have learned...not at all.

Botany

(70,496 posts)
5. And how many of those Harley workers voted for Trump?
Tue May 22, 2018, 10:32 AM
May 2018

Because they had to stop Hillary and her "liberal agenda."

elcaja

(3 posts)
7. Harley DavidSAN
Tue May 22, 2018, 10:40 AM
May 2018

Not only did they keep the tax cut money, close an American factory but Harley is building a factory in Thailand. Seems that Chinese steel is cheaper in Asia and the demand is great for the American iconic bike. MAGA indeed!

IronLionZion

(45,430 posts)
9. Do people still buy many Harleys?
Tue May 22, 2018, 11:03 AM
May 2018

They may have had a temporary resurgence with appearance in popular TV shows like Sons of Anarchy and movies. But when people look for quality and value, they have many better options: Indian Scout, Yamaha V-star, and options from Honda and Triumph and others.

FSogol

(45,480 posts)
18. No, their sales in the US are way down. Millennials don't ride motorcycles & HD's customer base
Tue May 22, 2018, 12:01 PM
May 2018

is aging out. That's why they are more interested in expanding to Asia than keeping plants here open.

jmowreader

(50,555 posts)
19. They don't ride THOSE motorcycles
Tue May 22, 2018, 12:47 PM
May 2018

Millennials like motorcycles, but not dad bikes like Harleys and Indians. The millennials’ choice is the fully faired sport bike, and they tend to stay small - 650cc is huge to these guys.

jmowreader

(50,555 posts)
28. I remember when the Fayetteville NC police changed to BMW
Tue May 22, 2018, 04:34 PM
May 2018

A lot of Real Americans (TM) were writing to the paper demanding the removal of the police chief for getting rid of the All American Harley police bikes. The chief had five justifications for doing it, and the biggest one was his officers: most of the cops he'd consider putting on motorcycles are too small to safely engage in a high-speed pursuit on a 700-pound motorcycle.

Bengus81

(6,931 posts)
14. And peeps in KC and Missouri pull a lever for ANY and ALL Republicans--especially Trump
Tue May 22, 2018, 11:25 AM
May 2018

Nearly a 20 point diff between Trump and Clinton in Missouri. They made their fucking bed,now sleep in it--if the house doesn't get a visit from the repo guy.

Reminds me of the idiots in Kansas--now BITCHING about Trump and crop tariffs. Awww to bad.

Ray Bruns

(4,093 posts)
23. All I have to say is
Tue May 22, 2018, 01:29 PM
May 2018

Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha.

There is an old saying that goes, "If a con man is talking, and you can't tell who the mark is, YOU'RE THE MARK."

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
25. That's trump and the Republicans
Tue May 22, 2018, 01:39 PM
May 2018

Tax scam , completely the opposite of what he claimed it was, again. They lied.

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