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jpak

(41,757 posts)
Sat May 26, 2018, 08:41 AM May 2018

Scientists find opioids in Puget Sound mussels

Source: Portland Press Herald

SEATTLE — Scientists who track pollution have discovered traces of the pain reliever oxycodone in some Puget Sound mussels.

Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife obtained clean mussels from Penn Cove on Whidbey Island and put them in different areas to test for water contamination, KIRO-TV reported this week.

Scientists worked with the Puget Sound Institute to analyze the data and discovered three out of 18 locations came back positive for trace amounts of oxycodone.

Two were near Bremerton’s shipyard and one was in Elliot Bay near Harbor Island in Seattle.

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Read more: https://www.pressherald.com/2018/05/26/scientists-find-opioids-in-puget-sound-mussels/

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Scientists find opioids in Puget Sound mussels (Original Post) jpak May 2018 OP
So there was no pain in the mussels? TexasTowelie May 2018 #1
Were the clams happy? Kilgore May 2018 #2
Did they eat all the opiods in the water? JustABozoOnThisBus May 2018 #3
Medicine Disposal: Questions and Answers marble falls May 2018 #4
It's mainly in the urine and feces? yallerdawg May 2018 #7
Yes. I love oysters, too. Just one more thing to think about. marble falls May 2018 #8
Mussel relaxation kwassa May 2018 #5
Dreadful reality relogic May 2018 #6
I cannot stop eating these mussels! Blues Heron May 2018 #9
Penn Cove mussels? I used to live on Whidbey and saw the mussel farms daily. samnsara May 2018 #10
LOLOLOL! nt Javaman May 2018 #11
The areas in question have had a ban on harvesting for quite a while. SeattleVet May 2018 #12
yay!! more opioid hysteria! nt TheFrenchRazor May 2018 #13

marble falls

(57,077 posts)
4. Medicine Disposal: Questions and Answers
Sat May 26, 2018, 09:30 AM
May 2018
https://www.fda.gov/Drugs/ResourcesForYou/Consumers/BuyingUsingMedicineSafely/EnsuringSafeUseofMedicine/SafeDisposalofMedicines/ucm186188.htm


4: Does flushing the medicines on this list down the toilet or sink pose a risk to human health or the environment? How have considerations about medicines in the environment informed FDA’s recommendations about the disposal of medicines from the home?

FDA is aware of reports of very low but measurable levels of medicines in surface waters such as rivers and streams, and to a lesser extent in drinking water. Disposal of these select few medicines by flushing would contribute only a small fraction of the total amount of medicine found in our surface and drinking water. The majority of medicines found in water are a result of the body’s natural routes of drug elimination (in urine or feces).

Based on the available data, FDA believes that the known risk of harm to humans from accidental exposure to these medicines far outweighs any potential risk to humans or the environment from flushing them.

To date, scientists have found no evidence of harmful effects to human health from medicines in the environment. In addition, to better understand the human health and ecological risks from medicines in our water, FDA works with other agencies, including the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA). Still, to reduce overall medicine levels in our waters, FDA recommends that consumers first consider disposing of these drugs as quickly as possible through medicine take-back programs or DEA-authorized collectors before flushing down the sink or toilet.

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
7. It's mainly in the urine and feces?
Sat May 26, 2018, 10:09 AM
May 2018

Mussels, clams, and oysters are true 'bottom feeders.'

Which is why we have warnings about consuming them, especially raw.

Of course, for many they are so addictive, they can't stop!

relogic

(155 posts)
6. Dreadful reality
Sat May 26, 2018, 10:09 AM
May 2018

It’s beyond disgusting and repugnant to know opioids and countless foreign substances that injure the human biochemical systems have so permeated our vital waters. Think of all the careless corporate water supply companies (Flint, MI) anyone? This is a canary in the mines moment among a litany of them since EPA was founded.

From plastic particulates in most marine life, BHP in breast milk, and neurologically damaging lead in tap water- we’re literally in deep s**t.

samnsara

(17,616 posts)
10. Penn Cove mussels? I used to live on Whidbey and saw the mussel farms daily.
Sat May 26, 2018, 11:31 AM
May 2018

...could NEVER eat one tho....

SeattleVet

(5,477 posts)
12. The areas in question have had a ban on harvesting for quite a while.
Sat May 26, 2018, 03:23 PM
May 2018

Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife has a good map showing where it is OK to harvest shellfish:

https://fortress.wa.gov/doh/eh/maps/biotoxin/biotoxin.html

For many years they have been detecting pretty much anything that people put into their bodies, and that water treatment plants cannot remove. During late October through December there is a huge spike in the amount of cinnamon, nutmeg, ginger, cloves, and allspice in the water (and the filter feeders) in this area, due to all of the pumpkin pie spice flavored coffee drinks and other foods that people are consuming. Caffeine is always present at relatively high levels, as are birth control pills. Metabolites of THC and CBD are being seen in slightly elevated levels.

Bremerton and Harbor Island are well known to be highly contaminated with a LOT of things. Harbor Island is near the outflow of the Duwamish, which has been on the EPA Superfund Site for many years (it is one of the most polluted waterways in the country).

If you put it into your body, it will eventually become detectable at some level in the water (and filter-feeding marine organisms).

Of course, being detectable and being hazardous are two vastly different things. We are able to detect things in parts-per-trillion...and the allowable level of something even as toxic as arsenic is 10,000ppt in drinking water.

I'm still going to enjoy my oysters, clams, mussels, and other seafood.

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