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Judi Lynn

(160,525 posts)
Sun May 27, 2018, 06:23 PM May 2018

Rudy Giuliani admits 'Spygate' is Trump PR tactic against Robert Mueller

Source: Guardian


President’s lawyer gives meandering Sunday show interviews
‘It’s for public opinion’, he says of claims of campaign informant

Tom McCarthy
@TeeMcSee Email
Sun 27 May 2018 14.03 EDT First published on Sun 27 May 2018 09.47 EDT

Former New York City mayor Rudy Giuliani said on Sunday that his repeated imputations of a supposed scandal at the heart of the Robert Mueller investigation – which Donald Trump calls “Spygate” – amounted to a tactic to sway public opinion and limit the risk of the president being impeached.

“Of course we have to do it to defend the president,” Trump’s lawyer told CNN State of the Union host Dana Bash, who accused him of being part of a campaign to undermine the Mueller investigation. Trump has repeatedly called the special counsel’s work a “witch hunt”, despite its producing five guilty pleas, including by three former Trump aides, and evidence of Russian tampering in US elections.

“It is for public opinion,” Giuliani said of his public campaign of dissimulation. “Because eventually the decision here is going to be impeach or not impeach. Members of Congress, Democrats and Republicans, are going to be informed a lot by their constituents. And so our jury – and it should be – is the American people.

“So Republicans largely, many independents, even some Democrats now question the legitimacy of [the Mueller investigation],” Giuliani said. “Democrats I would suggest for their own self-interest, this is not a good issue to go into the midterms.”



Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/may/27/rudy-giuliani-spygate-robert-mueller-donald-trump

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Rudy Giuliani admits 'Spygate' is Trump PR tactic against Robert Mueller (Original Post) Judi Lynn May 2018 OP
"How is it..." SHRED May 2018 #1
This should be headlines everywhere. riversedge May 2018 #18
SPYgate is Trump-manufactured #FakeNews bucolic_frolic May 2018 #2
All failures, Scarsdale May 2018 #12
"So Republicans largely, many independents, even some Democrats" BumRushDaShow May 2018 #3
Mueller is legit... Expect my elected officials to impeach this Orange Clown djacq May 2018 #4
Oh, fuck him. murielm99 May 2018 #5
This will be matched by a propaganda campaign attacking Dems.... TomCADem May 2018 #6
If that does happen (and I doubt it will) FakeNoose May 2018 #14
A Lot of Left Leaning Folks Will Fall For RW Trolls TomCADem May 2018 #17
he's the gift that keeps on giving.. SummerSnow May 2018 #7
He's admitting that "spygate" is a further attempt to obstruct justice. meadowlander May 2018 #8
OF COURSE!!! D_Master81 May 2018 #9
I doubted the headline JohnnyRingo May 2018 #10
Fuck Rudy TeamPooka May 2018 #11
Lipless mutant. More human waste that should be disposed of. Mc Mike May 2018 #13
He also pretty much admitted to Trump's obstruction- dawg day May 2018 #15
How do people not understand... forgotmylogin May 2018 #16
This is how Fake News is born. n/t 7wo7rees May 2018 #19

bucolic_frolic

(43,140 posts)
2. SPYgate is Trump-manufactured #FakeNews
Sun May 27, 2018, 06:37 PM
May 2018

been saying it on here for 2 days

Trump thinks he has a PR problem, and it can be solved with marketing savvy. Like Trump University, Trump Steaks, yada yada

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
12. All failures,
Mon May 28, 2018, 06:14 AM
May 2018

it should be noted. Does Rudy know that "constituents" ARE "American public"?? Love the way his eyes pop out of his head, as though someone touched him with a cattle prod.

BumRushDaShow

(128,895 posts)
3. "So Republicans largely, many independents, even some Democrats"
Sun May 27, 2018, 06:42 PM
May 2018

Name one Democrat Ghouliani, who "questions the legitimacy" of anything OTHER THAN the current occupant of the WH.

djacq

(1,633 posts)
4. Mueller is legit... Expect my elected officials to impeach this Orange Clown
Sun May 27, 2018, 07:23 PM
May 2018

VA-05 True Blue Democrat.

Looking forward to the Blue Wave.

Totally 100% good with Impeachment.

TomCADem

(17,387 posts)
6. This will be matched by a propaganda campaign attacking Dems....
Sun May 27, 2018, 07:39 PM
May 2018

Given the success of 2016, watch the rise of pro-Trump progressives attacking Dems as part of a neoliberal deepstate conspiracy.

FakeNoose

(32,634 posts)
14. If that does happen (and I doubt it will)
Mon May 28, 2018, 08:52 AM
May 2018

... it will be Russian bots disguising themselves as "progressive pro-Trump" Democrats. In other words, trolls.

If we can't check the credentials of a "pro-Trump" poster on DU we should be highly skeptical of any such comments.

TomCADem

(17,387 posts)
17. A Lot of Left Leaning Folks Will Fall For RW Trolls
Mon May 28, 2018, 11:57 AM
May 2018

In 2016, a lot of DUers posted a cited to the Sane Progressive who repeatedly attacked Dems as neoliberals. Now that Trump has won, has she said squat about him?

No. Instead, she is Now defending Trump and now attacking the “Deep State” and, of course, Dems.

The point is that even the left can fall for such propaganda campaigns. That is why you have to be careful about threads attacking Dems and giving Republicans a free pass.

https://m.youtube.com/channel/UCxpfmCp2Z9VPTO7eWV6ebzQ

SummerSnow

(12,608 posts)
7. he's the gift that keeps on giving..
Sun May 27, 2018, 07:49 PM
May 2018

so he is admitting that 'Spygate' is just rhetoric propaganda to discredit Mueller and that it is not real

D_Master81

(1,822 posts)
9. OF COURSE!!!
Sun May 27, 2018, 09:31 PM
May 2018

and he's not even clever since "spygate" was the Patriots scandal for taping an opponents practice before the Super Bowl back 10 years ago.

JohnnyRingo

(18,628 posts)
10. I doubted the headline
Sun May 27, 2018, 11:51 PM
May 2018

...but when I read the actual quotes, he does indeed admit to using propaganda to sway public opinion.

Now I'm no fancy pants New York attorney, but it doesn't seem smart to me to tell people that. Sure, Trump die hards will swallow it readily, but that could prove embarrassing eventually.

Regardless, I don't think Rudy's going to get many high end contracts after this.

dawg day

(7,947 posts)
15. He also pretty much admitted to Trump's obstruction-
Mon May 28, 2018, 10:49 AM
May 2018
He said he wasn't comfortable with an interview addressing obstruction because the President could be implicated over an interpretation of a comment he made about firing Comey.
"If you interpret his comment about firing ... Comey ... If you interpret that as obstructing the investigation, as opposed to removing a guy who was doing a bad job, on the recommendation, in part, of (Deputy Attorney General Rod) Rosenstein, but you see it as obstructing the investigation, then you can say it is obstruction," Giuliani told CNN. "And then you can say it is perjury, which is even easier for them, which is where I think, if they are sneaky, they are going."


So-- he's admitting the "comment" (presumably to Lester Holt) was obstructing. And then it's also perjury.

This is Trump's DEFENSE attorney?
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