Franklin Graham hosting 10 rallies in California urging Christians to vote

[brooklynite]

Source: The Hill

Evangelist leader and vocal President Trump supporter Franklin Graham is currently on tour in California to urge Christians to vote in the upcoming primary as part of an attempt to combat progressive policy in the state, The New York Times reported.

Graham, son of the late Billy Graham, is taking a three-bus caravan up the middle of California, which is home to some of the most contested elections this year.

He plans to hold 10 rallies to urge evangelicals to vote, the Times reported. His tour will end on June 5, the day of the primary.

“The church just has to be wakened,” he told the Times. “People say, what goes in California is the way the rest of the nation is going to go. So, if we want to see changes, it is going to have to be done here.”

Read more: http://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/389591-franklin-graham-urging-christians-to-vote-at-10-rallies-in-california

[FarPoint]

1. Time to....

Eliminate their Tax Free Status

[applegrove]

10. No kidding.

[CelticWinter]

27. I agree or they can

keep their religion out of my politics
and I will keep my politics out of their religion

[dicksmc3]

33. Amen Brother!!

These clowns using the religious shit to get the tax breaks NEEDS TO STOP!!

[Initech]

55. That's exactly what the Christian right wants.

If we even dare think about going after their nest egg, they will fight back hard and turn it into a SCOTUS issue - and if ever gets to that point, with Gorsuch on their side, it will mean the end of the Johnson Amendment. And if you haven't noticed - Trump has been going hard after it, and has been stirring up the crazies with some ultra far right rhetoric about it. We need to tread extremely carefully if we're going to take them down.

[yellowdogintexas]

57. One should always be careful what one asks for

If removing the Johnson Amendment from the Tax Code allows conservative/right wing religious institutions to 'politic' from the pulpit, without losing their tax exempt status, it also allows middle of the road and left wing churches to do the same.

I am confident that if it were not for the tax code/non profit/religious issue, we would see more of the progressive churches involving themselves in political and social issues.

These things always have a flip side. It is up to the moderate churches to take advantage of the liberation this will give them.

[FarPoint]

58. Soon...

We should strike when they can no longer use obstruction.....We must not forget.

[redstateblues]

2. I'm sure Christ would weep to see men like Graham calling themselves Christians

[Voltaire2]

47. The majority of christians in this country

vote Republican and support Trump. They would reject your characterization of what their god thinks and of who is the “true christian”.

[underthematrix]

3. I just tweeted a link to the article and

asked Franklin Graham why there are no white people like him in the Bible, the Torah or the Koran.

I do a daily Bible study with my husband that covers the entire Bible in a year and I noticed that there are no white people. Jesus waa described as having feet the color of bronze or burned brass and hair like wool.

[OneBro]

26. Even it was true, why would it matter?

[heaven05]

34. it matters because

wait for it........the European peoples Jesus has always been blond or brown-haired, with blue eyes and white skin. I guess Jesus must reflect those who are trying to dominate other cultures and races as has happened in the last melania or so. 2000 years or so? So a brown Jesus is getting it right so this dominance shit can stop. That's why it matters to me.

[underthematrix]

50. As you said, it matters because the white supremacy narrative is based in part

on the basic assumption that white people were made in the image of God who must also be white. But we know Jesus is the Son of God whose mother Mary was inseminated by the Holy Spirit. Jesus was black with hair like wool. According to the attached study, there's no connection between ancient Jews and present day European Jews. This makes sense to me. It also explains how Judaism found its way to Europe. https://www.haaretz.com/jewish/.premium-ashkenazis-derive-from-euro-women-1.5348602

While I don't claim any religion, I love the HOLY BIBLE which is the ancient spiritual history of black people. We need to recognize it as OUR history and make sure white people know we know it's our spiritual history which we have generously shared with the world for centuries.

So yes it matters.

[heaven05]

56. Excellent

I have read the holy word, also. Divine Insemination is not a stretch if you believe God created us out of nothing.

Thank you for the link.

I will have to read destruction of black civilization notes, somewhere.

It's migration to me. Life started in Africa. Fact. After that it was migration. And northern and lower southern climes made people lighter, although an eskimoes is a race with darker pigment in skin, No one race really is superior, it's a construct of divisiveness and the origins of that...??? And why deem it perpetual conflict. I hope that curse of war is eradicated from our growth


https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Essay:On_the_Origin_of_Human_Conflict




http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2253029/Historic-photographs-document-Alaskas-Inuit-Eskimos-survived-worlds-coldest-winters.html,

[raging moderate]

36. Do you have the chapter/verse for that, please?

I have been looking and looking for it, because I used to know it. I found it many years ago, and now I can't find it. And you KNOW these people always put such a premium on the EXACT chapter/verse!

[noneof_theabove]

43. Not exact but it is in there..

Using the free version of E-Sword [e-sword dot net] [not religious but program comes in handy]
You figure out what each means, I just did copy/paste of results [no "fake news"]

search: brass feet [bronze found nothing]
using: search for all of the words [in a verse] [can use "exact order" typical search engine]
bible: KJV [from installed versions [many for free] King James, Good New, Basic English, American Standard]
from: bible [old & new testament, comments......]

(Eze 1 : 7)  And their feet were straight feet; and the sole of their feet was like the sole of a calf's foot: and they sparkled like the colour of burnished brass.
(Dan 7:19)  Then I would know the truth of the fourth beast, which was diverse from all the others, exceeding dreadful, whose teeth were of iron, and his nails of brass; which devoured, brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with his feet;
(Dan 10:6)  His body also was like the beryl, and his face as the appearance of lightning, and his eyes as lamps of fire, and his arms and his feet like in colour to polished brass, and the voice of his words like the voice of a multitude.
(Rev 1:15)  And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters.
(Rev 2:18)  And unto the angel of the church in Thyatira write; These things saith the Son of God, who hath his eyes like unto a flame of fire, and his feet are like fine brass;

search: hair wool
(Dan 7 : 9)  I beheld till the thrones were cast down, and the Ancient of days did sit, whose garment was white as snow, and the hair of his head like the pure wool: his throne was like the fiery flame, and his wheels as burning fire.

DISCLAIMER: I have no relationship with E-Sword, just find the program useful and hope others find the same. A bit complex but very powerful in what it does for "free".

[raging moderate]

44. Thank you!

This is helpful.

[Jedi Guy]

45. I don't think that's commentary on Jesus's race.

The references to a "creature" make me think it's referring to the angels and living creatures that various biblical figures saw in visions or dreams. If these terms are also used to describe Jesus, I would think it's his "heavenly" aspect rather than his earthly aspect.

That said, every culture that has adopted Christianity has imagery showing Jesus as their own race, so Europeans making him look white is hardly surprising. Asians have made him look Asian, in Africa there's imagery of Jesus as a black man, etc.

As for the historical Jesus, of course he wasn't white. He was Jewish, so he'd have looked pretty much just like any other Jewish person of the time.

[marble falls]

41. Ask him why there are no cats in the Bible, either.

[Buzz cook]

53. "For we like cats have gone astray".

The word cat is often miss translated as sheep.

John 21:17 New International Version (NIV)

17 The third time he said to him, “Simon son of John, do you love me?”

Peter was hurt because Jesus asked him the third time, “Do you love me?” He said, “Lord, you know all things; you know that I love you.”

Jesus said, “Feed my cats".

[marble falls]

42. The Bible talks about Romans and Greeks. Aren't/weren't they "white"?

[msongs]

4. he and the creator (tm) are on tour to raise $$$$$, lots of $$, using fear nt

[dembotoz]

5. Don't expect him to stay home

[roamer65]

6. Run him out of CA, people.

[WhoWoodaKnew]

7. Why isn't he leading the charge to remove the cheater, liar and adulterer in the White House?

[Fortinbras Armstrong]

32. Because he has sold his Christian birthright for a mess of political pottage

Franklin has aligned himself with Trump for purely political reasons. He wants a theocracy in the US, and thinks that Trump can deliver it.

[RockRaven]

8. He must have found a way to make a buck off of this theater

because it can't plausibly change the vote totals.

Anyone who would waste their time at a Franklin Graham rally was already going to vote Repuke, and already highly likely to turnout to vote.

[Grassy Knoll]

9. WTF Is With These Idiots...

...My Mom, A Life Long Christian - Voted For Every Democratic President Including Obama
Until She Died a Year Later.

My Dad Whom Fought In The Korean War Voted For JFK, And Owned A Few Guns.

These Fucks Want To Pigeon Hole Democrats, They Can Be Pro Gun And Christian,

They Want To Own These 2 Things As "Republican Only Club" Boy, Are The Mistaken.

[PaulX2]

11. Christians Need To Vote For Real Christians Democrats The Ones Who Do What Christ Would Do

Not anti abortion whack jobs.

[groundloop]

16. Amen. I don't recall the Bible instructing us to give tax breaks to the rich.

[cyclonefence]

12. "For what you do unto the least of these,

you do to me."

Jesus wept.

[TeamPooka]

13. this fucking idiot was in my town here in Ventura last week.

surprised at some neighbors who were excited about it

[Turbineguy]

14. OK, you can destroy the country

only if you agree to stand up with your hand over your heart for the national anthem.

[Upthevibe]

15. I'm too tired tonight to express how much

I detest this P.O.S.!!!!!!! Hey freak face, GET THE HELL OUT OF MY STATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[tableturner]

17. Actually, he's urging FUNDAMENTALIST Christians to vote! Stop letting them define "Christian".

[OneBro]

28. Too late.

Trump and evangelicals, Billy Graham Jr. and Joel Osteen, Eddie Long and Jimmy Swaggert, Jim and Tammy Faye, fundamentalists, and a whole host of other folks are the faces, hearts and souls of a modern day Christianity which willfully rejects anything that is Christ-like.

[KWR65]

18. They no longer care about saving souls they just wanna save politicos

[atreides1]

25. They want power, they have no interest in saving anyone!!!

All Graham and his followers want is power, control, and the legal right to commit genocide...all in the name of their "God"!!!!

[heaven05]

35. and get rich

money has turned out to be their god. Disgusting people.

[pwb]

19. Preaching Satans message disquised as a Christian.

These phonies have all been exposed. Fake religion.......Evangelicals. No Christ in their message.

[Midnight Writer]

20. The Prophet is false, but the Profit is real.

[heaven05]

37. ++ nt

[BumRushDaShow]

21. Hucksters have been around for thousands of years

and this is the latest group of them. There is nothing "Christian" about these hateful people.

[Alethia Merritt]

22. If real Christians who are followers of Jesus Christ vote, the GOP will lose bigly.

Most Christians I know can't stand Trump and really are angry that he was elected and they all tell me that they are Christians. All from various denominations too.

[Scarsdale]

23. I wonder if the funding for

this is coming from the RNC? The donor $$$ are being used to pay lawyer fees for Donald Jr. and Hope Hicks among others. Graham ALWAYS has his eye on the cash. After all, he needs his private jet to spread his gospel. Fake preacher, hanging on his father's coat tails, just like the tRump offspring do.

[OneBro]

29. Funding could just as well be directly from Russia.

[Mc Mike]

24. Looking forward to a lot of 'massive' rallies with 5 attendees,

and a ton of empty space and stacked pallets of unnecessary bottled water.

[Timmygoat]

30. I willnever understand

These so called evangelicals,my christian up-bringing meant care for the poor and sick, loving thy neighbor etc.
Don't even know where to begin on the subject of guns, to me they are an instrument of killing. What has the country come to?

[Mc Mike]

61. They sure dragged his word from prayer to curse.

That's the only way repuglinazi birchers can use christianity.

Those Graham adherents are interesting, from a zero morals f ed up psychology point of view.

Though I was focusing on all the failed teabag rally jamborees in the past, in my post. Embarrasingly evident astroturf nature, no attendees, etc.

[Vinca]

31. Which Christians? The ones who feed and house the poor or the money worshippers?

If the Jesus-y Christians show up, Dems win. If the followers of the prosperity gospel show up, GOP wins.

[Docreed2003]

38. Franklin Graham is a fucking joke

This guy was a royal fuck up for much of his life a la W and then "returned to Jesus", like a fucking prodigal son, when he hit rock bottom and realized that daddy's "ministry" was an easy way to make a living for the rest of his days.

Fuck that dude...he isn't concerned about "the Church" or "Jesus" or anything other than cementing his fucking paycheck. Just do an in depth study of "Operation Christmas Child", his pet project, and you'll see the level of absolute crassness this guy will stoop to to make a buck.

[Ilsa]

54. Here is a WaPo quote:

CEOs at the top 50 U.S. charities, including Samaritan's Purse, earn in the $350,000 to $450,000 range, which makes Graham's $622,000 salary from his aid organization alone about 40 percent to 50 percent higher than average, according to a Forbes story. Aug 18, 2015

It makes me sick, thinking how FG is raking it in, jetting around, while people like my husband work long hours, stressed out, relying on years of experience, getting a difficult degree, just hoping to have enough to retire on some day around age 70.

Here is his early bio from Wiki:

William Franklin Graham III was born in Asheville, North Carolina, on July 14, 1952, to evangelist Billy Graham and Ruth Bell. He is the fourth of their five children.[4] As a teenager, Graham attended The Stony Brook School, a Christian private school on Long Island, New York, but was sent home and told not to return after a booze filled night in which his girlfriend,the headmasters daughter committed suicide and finished high school in North Carolina.[5]

In 1970, Graham attended LeTourneau College in Longview, Texas, and was expelled from the school for keeping a female classmate out past curfew.[6] In 1974, he graduated from Montreat-Anderson College, now Montreat College, with an A.S.[7] and in 1978 from Appalachian State University with a B.A.[8][9]

[Docreed2003]

60. Exactly...he hasn't changed, he's just refined himself for the "ministry"

[videohead5]

39. Anyone

That backs someone like Trump who lies all of the time and sleeps with porn stars and Playboy bunnies while married is not a Christian.he is a phony.

[Honeycombe8]

40. Of course. But religious wackos vote, anyway. nt

[Liberalagogo]

46. Dear Franklin,

ES&D.

[Owl]

48. Piss on Franklin.

[SWBTATTReg]

49. Mr. Graham is intrepreting the facts wrong when he says that the 'church just ...

to be wakened, etc.'

Awaken from what?

My opinion is that people are waking up to the fact that so called evangelical leaders and their so called religion (such as Graham's fraction as well as all of the others) have misled their followers over numerous and false claims and then ignoring the obvious evidence of infidelity by RUMP (grab their P***Y etc. type of garbage talk, at least 2 marriage breakups, sex w/ a minor) and other sins such as lying, cheating, stealing, you name it.

My opinion is that I'm sick and tired of these so called leaders of morality standing up w/ such blatant ignorance of the facts and approving of RUMP. Each one of them should be ashamed of themselves and all their self-centered action on behalf of RUMP. I've been around the block for some time now, and the last thing I need is some idiot w/ a bible and their own interpretation of the 'facts' as stated in the bible proclaiming this and proclaiming that, even if they are a big shot 'Mr. Graham'. Get the blank out of my face.

That's fine, they have the right within their walls to do as they wish. Their actions in supporting a bigot, and all of the other crap that RUMP is sickeningly guilty of, will led to less interest in the church, less money in their donation buckets, and is leading to a very serious collision between state and church, as the constitution demands, over the last couple of election cycles.

[kimbutgar]

51. I wok,d stand out with a sign saying saying Frank Graham is a money changer in the temple

Franklin Graham is not a man of God but of Satan
Franklin Graham supports a 2x divorced adulterer who grabs women’s pussies without their consent

Franklin Graham supports a Nazi
Franklin Graham is a scam artist who is not doing the Lords work
Franklin Graham is a false prophet

I could write so many more signs and if I lived near there I’d be out There protesting.

[LiberalLovinLug]

52. One of the reasons I left organized Christianity years ago

How easily they can be led around by the nose by any pos leader that simply wants to. They are conditioned to not question authority, so anyone can assume that position if he, or she, says all the 'right ' things.

And other reason is how no prominent leader, respected by the community, comes out against Trump, or before that Bush. Puts himself on the line to stand up for the actual teachings of Jesus, if it contradicts the Republican party platform.

[keithbvadu2]

59. Does he also want non-Christians like Catholics to vote?

Does he also want non-Christians like Catholics to vote?

Franklin (and Billy) Graham say Mormons are not Christians

According to them, Catholics are not Christians either.

https://billygraham.org/decision-magazine/october-2012/can-an-evangelical-christian-vote-for-a-mormon/

"We need something like what Jerry Falwell did in the 1980s. We need a “moral majority”-made up of Christians, Jews, Mormons, Catholics and many others of faith-to come together to take a stand for our religious freedoms and rights."

[DoctorJoJo]

62. Franklin Graham and The Orange Buffoon Have Much in Common:

Both of their fathers ashamed of them, both are Grifters and Narcissists of the highest order, both appeal to the worst of the worst in humanity!