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sandensea

(21,624 posts)
Wed May 30, 2018, 12:02 PM May 2018

Tesla in Autopilot mode crashes into California police car

Source: AP

Authorities say a Tesla sedan in Autopilot mode has crashed into a parked police cruiser in Southern California.

Police Sgt. Jim Cota says the officer was not in the cruiser during the crash Tuesday in Laguna Beach. He says the Tesla driver suffered minor injuries.

The police SUV ended up with its two passenger-side wheels on a sidewalk.

Tesla's semi-autonomous Autopilot mode has come under scrutiny following other recent crashes. The carmaker says the function is not designed to avoid a collision and warns drivers not to rely on it entirely.

Read more: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/tesla-in-autopilot-mode-crashes-into-california-police-car/ar-AAxZYLB?OCID=ansmsnnews11





Scene of the accident in Laguna Beach. The Laguna Canyon Road is a heavily transited, two-lane road - such that the crash could have easily been a fatal head-on.
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Tesla in Autopilot mode crashes into California police car (Original Post) sandensea May 2018 OP
Did the autopilot get a ticket? lagomorph777 May 2018 #1
The owner is probably too rich to jail. sandensea May 2018 #2
Ooops. BumRushDaShow May 2018 #3
The autopilot Cold War Spook May 2018 #4
It really should be called "driver assist", because it can't really drive the car on its own. n/t PoliticAverse May 2018 #5
My thoughts exactly TexasBushwhacker May 2018 #7
"Tesla driver" - not quite keithbvadu2 May 2018 #6
Not such good news. Back to the drawing board. Judi Lynn May 2018 #8
Back to the drawing board - and perhaps back in the drawer. sandensea May 2018 #9
You Betcha!!! Plucketeer May 2018 #15
Don't we know it! Judi Lynn May 2018 #18
In cases like this it usually has told the driver multiple times to put their hands back on the whee Tiggeroshii May 2018 #10
Since this is not true auto-pilot Old Crank May 2018 #11
The problem with driver-assist cars is that they lull drivers into inattention frazzled May 2018 #13
That Tesla is probably a write-off jmowreader May 2018 #12
I can't wait for a self driving car to hit me. rgbecker May 2018 #14
Don't hit police cars . would think that is basic program directive dembotoz May 2018 #16
Tesla needs to turn that off. Wealthy people are dangerous. hunter May 2018 #17
+1 sandensea May 2018 #19
Wake Me Up When the Tech Press is Ready to Stop Fawning Over Elon Musk Upward May 2018 #20
Did it detect a future police brutality incident? n/t heliarc May 2018 #21

sandensea

(21,624 posts)
2. The owner is probably too rich to jail.
Wed May 30, 2018, 12:05 PM
May 2018

That's how it works in Laguna Beach.

It's also a place with lots of chances for a head-on collision (the Canyon Rd., the PCH, etc.).

Judi Lynn

(160,516 posts)
8. Not such good news. Back to the drawing board.
Wed May 30, 2018, 12:44 PM
May 2018

Maybe Tesla should start identifying its cars with Autopilot with signs or wild colors!

sandensea

(21,624 posts)
9. Back to the drawing board - and perhaps back in the drawer.
Wed May 30, 2018, 12:51 PM
May 2018

Too much of a safety risk, I think.

Especially in a high-traffic, narrow street-filled place like Laguna Beach. They were lucky no one was killed in a head-on collision in this particular incident.

And all the more so because the prospective buyers are likely to be bratty Donald Trump types who feel they're above the law (and often are). You know how that goes.

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
15. You Betcha!!!
Wed May 30, 2018, 01:59 PM
May 2018

Those consarned fancy schmancy things'll NEVER replace the horse. A good steed and a nice carriage is the epitome of transportation!

 

Tiggeroshii

(11,088 posts)
10. In cases like this it usually has told the driver multiple times to put their hands back on the whee
Wed May 30, 2018, 12:52 PM
May 2018

And usually the driver ignores the advice multiple times

Old Crank

(3,569 posts)
11. Since this is not true auto-pilot
Wed May 30, 2018, 12:53 PM
May 2018

This is driver error. Evidently Tesla tells people, and probably has it in writing, that there are limitations. This is the driver's responsibility to avoid the crash.

That being said the punishments for crashing a car are woefully low.

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
13. The problem with driver-assist cars is that they lull drivers into inattention
Wed May 30, 2018, 01:45 PM
May 2018

and complacency, which leads to accidents. So no, it's not just the drivers' error in these many accidents—you've got to blame the entire concept of driver-assist, or autopilot vehicles. Reaction times are slowed, even when the driver is paying attention. And what normal person who is not drunk, or in the midst of cardiac arrest, would drive a car into a parked vehicle? An automated car apparently did it, no alcohol needed.

What use is having a driver-assist vehicle if you have to be watching it like a hawk and be ready to grab the controls in a split second, anyway? Just drive a regular damned car.

I think the whole idea is an accident waiting to happen, and it should be abandoned.

jmowreader

(50,553 posts)
12. That Tesla is probably a write-off
Wed May 30, 2018, 01:30 PM
May 2018

Teslas have water-cooled batteries. If the coolant drains out, as it has done here, your battery stands a good chance of destroying itself. Combined with the body damage, it’ll cost more to fix this car than the car is worth.

On a regular car, that’s a $2500 fender bender.

rgbecker

(4,826 posts)
14. I can't wait for a self driving car to hit me.
Wed May 30, 2018, 01:55 PM
May 2018

I need a new car and I can't imagine one of these cars being able to defend itself in court no matter how the accident plays out.

dembotoz

(16,799 posts)
16. Don't hit police cars . would think that is basic program directive
Wed May 30, 2018, 04:31 PM
May 2018

Do cars in Hawaii get told not to drive into molten lava?

sandensea

(21,624 posts)
19. +1
Wed May 30, 2018, 05:15 PM
May 2018

The impunity that comes with these potential future accidents, for the wealthy and/or connected, is a big part of it.

Upward

(115 posts)
20. Wake Me Up When the Tech Press is Ready to Stop Fawning Over Elon Musk
Thu May 31, 2018, 02:30 AM
May 2018

and every other Silicon Valley figure.

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