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Judi Lynn

(160,515 posts)
Mon Aug 27, 2012, 12:30 PM Aug 2012

Some Texas counties want Medicaid dollars

Source: Washington Post

Posted at 11:58 AM ET, 08/27/2012
Some Texas counties want Medicaid dollars
By Lori Stahl

DALLAS – This is not shaping up as a dream week for Texas Gov. Rick Perry. Monday morning headlines state the obvious: He won’t be playing a major role at the Republican National Convention in Tampa.

Meanwhile back home, there's a small-scale mutiny afoot as some larger counties are openly resisting Perry’s pushback against President Obama’s plan to expand Medicaid as part of health care reform.

Perry, of course, is among a handful of Republican governors who’ve said their states won’t participate in the Medicaid expansion. Even though he’s no longer in the presidential contest, the stance gives Perry a platform for continuing to criticize Obama, saying the plan is too expensive and has too many federal strings attached.

Whether that stance is strictly partisan politics, or deeply felt principle, is in the eye of the beholder. For its part, the U.S. Supreme Court recently ruled that states can opt out without penalty from the federal government.


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Some Texas counties want Medicaid dollars (Original Post) Judi Lynn Aug 2012 OP
The enlightened counties should secede from the State of Texas and either ask SDjack Aug 2012 #1
+1 freshwest Aug 2012 #3
This is good, but I take issue with this sentence about Perry, and others: freshwest Aug 2012 #2
yeah he is an ass justabob Aug 2012 #9
I'm guessing the counties that have huge cities like Houston, Dallas and Austin LynneSin Aug 2012 #4
I agree oliverrams1 Aug 2012 #6
Welcome to DU! TexasTowelie Aug 2012 #7
I'm hoping your mayor runs for Governor LynneSin Aug 2012 #10
She's a good Mayor oliverrams1 Aug 2012 #11
K&R nt avebury Aug 2012 #5
great news justabob Aug 2012 #8
Absolutely, TX would come out ahead financially. Igel Aug 2012 #16
that is interesting justabob Aug 2012 #18
New budget cycle, same old yahoos. mbperrin Aug 2012 #20
"States rights" only refers to the Repuke dictator in the governor's mansion. bullwinkle428 Aug 2012 #12
Texas gotta good look at how stupid Perry was in lovuian Aug 2012 #13
I wonder whether those counties that want Medicaid will secede from Texas. (Just joking of course.) JDPriestly Aug 2012 #14
Hell yes thay want the $$$$ Texas has cut things WAY past the bone!!!!!! benld74 Aug 2012 #15
Said it Before, Still True oldsarge54 Aug 2012 #17
Medicaid and Women's Health Care monies are in decline DhhD Aug 2012 #19
Do the Right Thing karltrautman Aug 2012 #21

SDjack

(1,448 posts)
1. The enlightened counties should secede from the State of Texas and either ask
Mon Aug 27, 2012, 12:36 PM
Aug 2012

Massachusetts to annex them or form a new state and ask to be admitted into the Union.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
2. This is good, but I take issue with this sentence about Perry, and others:
Mon Aug 27, 2012, 12:41 PM
Aug 2012

Last edited Mon Aug 27, 2012, 09:38 PM - Edit history (2)

Whether that stance is strictly partisan politics, or deeply felt principle, is in the eye of the beholder.

No, he and the other yahoos that are not fulfilling the promise of Medicaid should NOT get away with their 'partisan politics' or 'deeply felt principle.'

People will, are, and have DIED in this country, when their birthright was to get the best that could be made available.

In virtually every case, these yahoos are corporate lackeys who believe in denying the means to live on the persons within an artificial boundary line and want to enforce all kinds of discrimination on millions in their respective states.

They are not kings, neither or the lawmakers, and these officials do not their human rights.

Just because a person is tied to a location by owning property, has family membrers, or was born in a certain state amd cannot move, does not mean some idiot in the legislature or governor's mansion should be able to deny them what is necessary to live.


justabob

(3,069 posts)
9. yeah he is an ass
Mon Aug 27, 2012, 01:42 PM
Aug 2012

and doesn't deserve to get a pass on believing that it is ok to make people suffer and die for HIS principles or politics. ARG!!

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
4. I'm guessing the counties that have huge cities like Houston, Dallas and Austin
Mon Aug 27, 2012, 12:42 PM
Aug 2012

It's really a different world from the rest of Texas when you visit those cities. I remember a trip to Austin, it was about as progressive as any of the cities up here in the NE like NYC, Boston, Philly.

oliverrams1

(60 posts)
6. I agree
Mon Aug 27, 2012, 01:10 PM
Aug 2012

Yes I live in Houston and agree that the larger cities in Texas are more progressive. I can't agree with a single word that comes out of Perry's mouth.

TexasTowelie

(112,101 posts)
7. Welcome to DU!
Mon Aug 27, 2012, 01:31 PM
Aug 2012

I'm currently living in Brenham. After nearly 30 years in the Austin and Dallas areas, I feel like I've taken a step back in time but I know that there are places in Texas that are even more backwards.

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
10. I'm hoping your mayor runs for Governor
Mon Aug 27, 2012, 01:48 PM
Aug 2012

I think Annise Parker is pretty cool and would make a great governor of Texas.

justabob

(3,069 posts)
8. great news
Mon Aug 27, 2012, 01:39 PM
Aug 2012

I am so glad to hear it. I hope the cities give Perry hell. It is absurd that our health care system is in the state it is in. Perry says we'd be on the hook for all those bills after the three year federal subsidy, but I read elsewhere we'd actually end up coming out ahead financially, with a healthier population to boot.

Igel

(35,296 posts)
16. Absolutely, TX would come out ahead financially.
Mon Aug 27, 2012, 06:56 PM
Aug 2012

If the models are right.

I've learned to distrust models. For the first 3 years of the recovery, every model that made a testable prediction was held to be true until it was actually tested, then it turned out wrong. Every model that didn't make a testable prediction couldn't, naturally, be tested--and we still hold those to be true.

Odds aren't favoring that just by accident every testable model was wrong but all the non-testable models are right.

For the record, the HCRA and ACA stipulate the assumptions that have to be put into a standard model. Even if the model is 100% right, there's still the question about the assumptions.

Take one non-federal assumption that was made in Mass. for Romneycare. With universal health-care, the outrageous cost of emergency room visits would decline fairly quickly. It seemed reasonable. It provided for a bit chunk of savings. Yet years after there was universal health-care emergency room visits had barely budged. Those who had used the emergency room for basic care continued to use it for basic care. The cost savings there were minimal.

That's one of the assumptions stipulated by law for the HCRA/ACA. The models we have say that emergency room visits should decline. The data we have say that they don't. We're ordered by Congress to believe the models, not the data.

We've started a new budget cycle in Texas. Let's see how the House and Senate treat Medicare/Medicaid this time.

justabob

(3,069 posts)
18. that is interesting
Mon Aug 27, 2012, 07:33 PM
Aug 2012

about ER usage not changing even when people have better access. I guess once you start doing something one way, it is hard to think of other options. That was the gist of the analysis that I read about Texas and Medicaid... that the big savings would come from reduced ER usage. There was more, but I cannot remember the details. Ah well. Maybe the Lege will surprise in a good way for once? I am not going to hold my breath, but crazier things have happened, and these are crazy, crazy times.

mbperrin

(7,672 posts)
20. New budget cycle, same old yahoos.
Mon Aug 27, 2012, 09:50 PM
Aug 2012

They will continue to allow our physical structure to deteriorate (roads, schools, bridges, parks), our safety net to unravel (Medicaid, law enforcement) and will continue to allow huge companies like Exxon to pay nothing into state taxes.

Why should this time be different?

oldsarge54

(582 posts)
17. Said it Before, Still True
Mon Aug 27, 2012, 07:22 PM
Aug 2012

Don't blame Texas. We do have liberals, just not enough of them with money. Seems the only way we can get rid of governors are to send them to Washington.

DhhD

(4,695 posts)
19. Medicaid and Women's Health Care monies are in decline
Mon Aug 27, 2012, 09:45 PM
Aug 2012

because of TX GOP is making decisions for low income and poor people. Instead of securing federal funding as Texans pay federal income tax, Governor Perry wants to give the Texas share to other states participating in the Medicaid Exchange of the ACA. Perry told the head of the TX Health and Human Services Commission to find money some other way. The Commissioner is resigning.
Perry is asking Texas Taxpayers to pay twice, through loss of federal monies return and money from education and other raided state programs like the Texas Parks and Wildlife. There are several articles on the DU Texas Group about the raiding of federal and state funds in state programs. Suppose everybody knows that most Texas school districts are currently suing the State of Texas/Texas TEA Legislature for not upholding the Texas Constitution when it comes to funding education. Then again, Perry put the bill for his Presidential Campaign on Texas Taxpayers.

GOP is the same everywhere; removing health care, education, etc. so wealthy and corporations will not have to pay taxes. Some of those tax free corporations are now leaving Texas.

karltrautman

(2 posts)
21. Do the Right Thing
Wed Aug 29, 2012, 05:05 PM
Aug 2012

Yes, its time. Taking the Medicaid dollars will help poor people in Texas. Does anyone think that the pressure to accept the Medicaid dollars will decrease in the future?

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