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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Sun Nov 4, 2018, 11:21 AM Nov 2018

GOP senator: Dems pushing 'false narrative' on pre-existing conditions

Source: The Hill


BY BRETT SAMUELS - 11/04/18 10:10 AM EST

Sen. Thom Tillis (R-N.C.) on Sunday accused Democrats of spreading a "false narrative" that Republicans want to take away health-care protections for individuals with pre-existing conditions, even though the GOP has repeatedly voted to repeal the Affordable Care Act.

"It’s a false narrative for Democrats to come in and say if you elect Republicans we’re going to take that away. We’re doing everything we can… to make sure we protect pre-existing conditions," Tillis, the vice chairman of the National Republican Senatorial Committee, said on "Fox News Sunday." Tillis cited President Trump's pledge in recent weeks that Republicans will protect coverage for individuals with pre-existing conditions.

The senator also painted the party's repeated efforts to repeal the Affordable Care Act, which ensures coverage for those with pre-existing conditions, as a necessary, even as President Trump and GOP candidates vow to protect such coverage.

"We want to replace the Affordable Care Act with a program that will work," Tillis said "That will provide people who have pre-existing conditions with health care."

Read more: https://thehill.com/homenews/sunday-talk-shows/414755-gop-senator-accuses-dems-of-pushing-false-narrative-on-republican

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GOP senator: Dems pushing 'false narrative' on pre-existing conditions (Original Post) DonViejo Nov 2018 OP
The lying never stops YessirAtsaFact Nov 2018 #1
Seems to be their original language...nt 2naSalit Nov 2018 #10
Why post this? Who cares what the R's and Trump say? We already know they lie constantly. LBM20 Nov 2018 #2
If you don't recognize the importance of this Senator's comments, please accept... DonViejo Nov 2018 #4
Agreed. It's easier to counter their lies when we know what lies they're telling this week. groundloop Nov 2018 #13
You don't care what Trump and Republicans say about Dems?? Bengus81 Nov 2018 #17
Lying sack of shit. lark Nov 2018 #3
Where is any Gop bill that mandates all insurers to provide such??? None beachbum bob Nov 2018 #5
The media enables GOP liars, they prove it every day. beachbum bob Nov 2018 #6
Republican Senate candidate literally took his sick employee's health insurance away keithbvadu2 Nov 2018 #7
I know what their "P-EC" insurance is like dawg day Nov 2018 #8
"We want to replace the Affordable Care Act with a program that will work," Tom Rinaldo Nov 2018 #9
It is not like a bunch of republicans went to the White House and drank beer to celebrate the ... Botany Nov 2018 #11
They want to replace ACA with nothing. Takket Nov 2018 #12
PROVIDE WITH HEALTH CARE? Jimvanhise Nov 2018 #14
The Republican AG of WV is party to a lawsuit to allow insurance companies Maggiemayhem Nov 2018 #15
almost finished with a plan to replace ObamaCare and vowed to have "insurance for everybody." keithbvadu2 Nov 2018 #16
Trump thinks him and the Rep are going to kill the ACA and then FORCE insurance companies Bengus81 Nov 2018 #18
So nothing could come up for the 1st 2 years of the coverage? 7962 Nov 2018 #20
No...if you broke a leg,arm...... Bengus81 Nov 2018 #22
EVERY reporter should ask "So where is your bill to do it?" 7962 Nov 2018 #19
We don't call him crazy Thom for nothing. paleotn Nov 2018 #21

DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
4. If you don't recognize the importance of this Senator's comments, please accept...
Sun Nov 4, 2018, 11:32 AM
Nov 2018

my sincere condolences

groundloop

(11,518 posts)
13. Agreed. It's easier to counter their lies when we know what lies they're telling this week.
Sun Nov 4, 2018, 12:25 PM
Nov 2018

When our neighbor says "but repubs say they're going to protect people who have a pre-existing condition when they pass their fabulous healthcare law and get rid of that horrible Obamacare" we can explain that there is no current replacement for the Affordable Care Act anywhere near ready to go, and that the goper controlled House has voted over 70 times to kill the Affordable Care Act (which would by default get rid of protections for people with pre-existing conditions). Then we can remind them that while the Affordable Care Act isn't perfect it's far far better than the wild-west system dominated by the insurance companies we had before. We now can keep our kids on our insurance until they turn 26, we get a yearly wellness checkup at no cost, annual vaccinations are free, there's no longer a limit on lifetime benefits (i.e. insurance companies can't kill you simply because they feel you're costing them too much), and of course you can't be excluded from insurance if you're already sick.

Bengus81

(6,931 posts)
17. You don't care what Trump and Republicans say about Dems??
Sun Nov 4, 2018, 01:18 PM
Nov 2018

I sure as HELL do and will fight back against their LIES.

lark

(23,094 posts)
3. Lying sack of shit.
Sun Nov 4, 2018, 11:29 AM
Nov 2018

Reugs have even taken this provision to court arguing it's unconstitutional and now they lie and say they are doing the opposite. In fact there's an ongoing case in TX for exactly that reason. Just like they put huge cuts to Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security in their budgets but then run ads saying Dems will take away their Medicare. Nope, it's them, always them. They have always opposed healthcare for the masses and will never stop trying to take away every penny of government assistance from the working class/poor and giving it themselves and their oligarch funders.

 

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
5. Where is any Gop bill that mandates all insurers to provide such??? None
Sun Nov 4, 2018, 11:34 AM
Nov 2018

to be found.

The liars can't help themselves

keithbvadu2

(36,775 posts)
7. Republican Senate candidate literally took his sick employee's health insurance away
Sun Nov 4, 2018, 11:41 AM
Nov 2018

Republican Senate candidate literally took his sick employee's health insurance away

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/11/2/1809359/-Republican-Senate-candidate-literally-took-his-sick-employee-s-health-insurance-away#read-more

"At Mike Braun's company, I sold RV parts and towing parts. A few months ago, I got really sick, ended up in the hospital.

"So while I was in the hospital, Mike Braun fired me. And backdated my termination. So my insurance had been cancelled. I was devastated, stuck with a $30,000 bill and left with nothing.

"There is no such thing as health care when something happens to you and it gets taken away. And that's what Mike Braun's company did."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=0&v=yaORaMVhqRA

dawg day

(7,947 posts)
8. I know what their "P-EC" insurance is like
Sun Nov 4, 2018, 11:43 AM
Nov 2018

I was on it before the ACA forced my employer to extend me our group coverage.

"Pre-existing condition" forces you into the "high-risk pool."

Only sick people are in this pool, hence the "high-risk" part.

It was almost $900 a month (and this was 9 years ago), and get this-- it was insurance for other things, but NOT any pre-existing conditions! That is, if I had a heart attack, I might be covered, but for treatment of my P-E C, no coverage. That was how the policy was written. And this was my state's "high-risk" pool, not some scammy insurance by a scammy company.

It was something, at least. I couldn't get insurance at all otherwise. I'd tell the insurance company my condition, and they would politely (but immediately) hang up on me.

This is what the GOP wants to go back to-- putting a huge percentage of Americans into a high-premium policy that excludes the very illnesses that excluded them from private insurance.

Tom Rinaldo

(22,912 posts)
9. "We want to replace the Affordable Care Act with a program that will work,"
Sun Nov 4, 2018, 11:45 AM
Nov 2018

It's just that nine years hasn't been long enough for them to come up with one. Any decade now, they promise.

Botany

(70,496 posts)
11. It is not like a bunch of republicans went to the White House and drank beer to celebrate the ...
Sun Nov 4, 2018, 11:52 AM
Nov 2018

... killing of Obamacare.

Takket

(21,562 posts)
12. They want to replace ACA with nothing.
Sun Nov 4, 2018, 11:59 AM
Nov 2018

We will be back to millions going bankrupt for uncovered medical treatment.

Jimvanhise

(301 posts)
14. PROVIDE WITH HEALTH CARE?
Sun Nov 4, 2018, 12:31 PM
Nov 2018

At no time does he or any other Republican say they will provide access to affordable health care. Access to healthcare and access to affordable healthcare are two different things and they think we don't notice the difference.

Maggiemayhem

(809 posts)
15. The Republican AG of WV is party to a lawsuit to allow insurance companies
Sun Nov 4, 2018, 12:48 PM
Nov 2018

to deny coverage for pre existing conditions. The R AG is the Republican nominee to run for US Senate against Manchin.

keithbvadu2

(36,775 posts)
16. almost finished with a plan to replace ObamaCare and vowed to have "insurance for everybody."
Sun Nov 4, 2018, 01:16 PM
Nov 2018
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/01/16/trump-reportedly-insists-healthcare-replacement-will-have-insurance-for-everybody.html


January 16, 2017 Fox News

President-elect Donald Trump revealed in an interview with The Washington Post that he’s almost finished with a plan to replace ObamaCare and vowed to have “insurance for everybody."

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The president-elect insisted that his plan for replacing the Affordable Healthcare Act is all but finished, and added that care would have “lower numbers, much lower deductibles.” He went as far to say that he’s ready to reveal it alongside Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell and House Speaker Paul Ryan.

Bengus81

(6,931 posts)
18. Trump thinks him and the Rep are going to kill the ACA and then FORCE insurance companies
Sun Nov 4, 2018, 01:23 PM
Nov 2018

into covering pre-existing conditions?? Bawhahahhahaaaaaaa!!!


Pffftttt....that's all that will be left is going back to buying insurance directly from the Insurance Industrial Complex. After a divorce I had to get my own insurance in 2011. I got it from BCBS and it carried a TWO YEAR exclusion on what they would consider a pre-existing claim.

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
20. So nothing could come up for the 1st 2 years of the coverage?
Sun Nov 4, 2018, 01:29 PM
Nov 2018

Or they would consider it "pre existing"?
Wow, thats ridiculous.
Or am I getting it wrong?

Bengus81

(6,931 posts)
22. No...if you broke a leg,arm......
Mon Nov 5, 2018, 12:12 PM
Nov 2018

Of course that wouldn't be pre-existing. But try going to the doctor six months later with cancer and see what they'd say. DENIED.......

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
19. EVERY reporter should ask "So where is your bill to do it?"
Sun Nov 4, 2018, 01:28 PM
Nov 2018

"Can we read the bill?"
"Why do you say the GOP is protecting them if you cant produce a bill"?

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